3:09 p.m.
Hey all just a reminder, this is still going on and tasks can be added
anytime.
This is a contest for high school students so tasks have to be quite a
bit smaller in scope than what your used to and mentoring students takes
some time, but is definitely a worthwhile experience IMO.
As before, if you're interested in this just shout out here or on IRC
and we can figure something out.
-Mo
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Subject: Get your work done from GCI students
Date: Mon, 3 Dec 2012 10:30:20 +0530
From: Buddhike Kurera <bckurera(a)fedoraproject.org>
To: ambassadors <ambassadors(a)lists.fedoraproject.org>
CC: Mo Morsi <mo(a)morsi.org>
Hi FAms,
If you are thinking of getting a work done this would be a good news.
Fedora is participating GCI 2012 where students work on defined tasks.
Therefore if you have any task we can add it to the list and get it
done. Tasks that are feasible for students to complete such as design,
documentation, QA, testing and simple coding can be added to this
list. Therefore if you have any requirement like posters for your
release parties and kind of, please let me know, so that I can add
them.
Thanks
--
Regards,
Buddhike Chandradeepa Kurera (bckurera)
12:17 p.m.
On Mon, Dec 03, 2012 at 04:09:29PM -0500, Mo Morsi wrote:
Hey all just a reminder, this is still going on and tasks can be
added
anytime.
This is a contest for high school students so tasks have to be quite a bit
smaller in scope than what your used to and mentoring students takes some
time, but is definitely a worthwhile experience IMO.
As before, if you're interested in this just shout out here or on IRC and
we can figure something out.
I think this would be interesting, though I'm struggling with the
forwarded email. I'm assuming it was just a phrasing thing, but it came
across more like, "Make a list of menial labor for high school students
to do!" than about creating a rewarding program that helps them get
real-world experience.
One thing that I think might be interesting, if a little open-ended,
would be for people to pick some sort of user story (or invent one),
inspired by our Personas, and then set up Aeolus + run it through its
paces, creating good documentation on the process. I think it would:
a.) Get us good new-user feedback. I think it's easy for us full-time
developers to just become accustomed to odd workflows or whatnot.
b.) Get us good step-by-step documentation around setup and workflows.
We haven't always done a good job here, and getting someone to write
about actually using Conductor for an interesting task would be great.
c.) Give the student(s) experience with cloud computing, open source
projects, documentation, usability, and testing/QA.
I'm a little confused by the email referring to it as a 'contest',
though. Is the type of thing I described not what they're looking for?
Another potential task might be the Redmine-to-Github wiki conversion,
which has been my "next-up" task for several weeks without me actually
getting to it. But I had hoped that part of the process would be to
go through pages and identify what is crap, what needs updating, and
what is still current, which isn't something that lends itself to
newcomers.
I'm kind of asking here because I wonder if these are the sort of things
the project is actually looking for. Do you have a link to the actual
Google program?
-- Matt
6:58 a.m.
On 12/04/2012 01:17 PM, Matt Wagner wrote:
On Mon, Dec 03, 2012 at 04:09:29PM -0500, Mo Morsi wrote:
> Hey all just a reminder, this is still going on and tasks can be added
> anytime.
>
> This is a contest for high school students so tasks have to be quite a bit
> smaller in scope than what your used to and mentoring students takes some
> time, but is definitely a worthwhile experience IMO.
>
> As before, if you're interested in this just shout out here or on IRC and
> we can figure something out.
I think this would be interesting, though I'm struggling with the
forwarded email. I'm assuming it was just a phrasing thing, but it came
across more like, "Make a list of menial labor for high school students
to do!" than about creating a rewarding program that helps them get
real-world experience.
Heh you have to remember these are high school students, so our menial
tasks are their real world experience (don't know about you but in high
school I was working at a hot dog stand).
Case in point the top students on the leader board (of all orgs, not
just Fedora) have completed tasks along the lines of 'cleanup this wiki
page', etc.
One thing that I think might be interesting, if a little open-ended,
would be for people to pick some sort of user story (or invent one),
inspired by our Personas, and then set up Aeolus + run it through its
paces, creating good documentation on the process. I think it would:
a.) Get us good new-user feedback. I think it's easy for us full-time
developers to just become accustomed to odd workflows or whatnot.
b.) Get us good step-by-step documentation around setup and workflows.
We haven't always done a good job here, and getting someone to write
about actually using Conductor for an interesting task would be great.
c.) Give the student(s) experience with cloud computing, open source
projects, documentation, usability, and testing/QA.
Ya this could work, the only concern I have w/ this is that it take a
long while to setup and run the full Aeolus suite. Not to mention that
these students are from around the world so they might not have the best
internet connections.
Deltacloud, Heat, or some other component that is simpler to setup would
be a good candidate for this. And since Aeolus is the umbrella project
encompassing all of this and not just the all in one solution all these
subprojects apply.
I'm a little confused by the email referring to it as a
'contest',
though. Is the type of thing I described not what they're looking for?
The GCI is a contest. Students complete bite sized tasks to earn points
and there are prizes awarded at the end.
Another potential task might be the Redmine-to-Github wiki
conversion,
which has been my "next-up" task for several weeks without me actually
getting to it. But I had hoped that part of the process would be to
go through pages and identify what is crap, what needs updating, and
what is still current, which isn't something that lends itself to
newcomers.
Ya think this is a good idea, I allocated some time for this yesterday
on our sprint meeting and we should be able to spin some GCI tasks off
of this. Lets talk about this some more at the website mtg on thurs.
I'm kind of asking here because I wonder if these are the sort of
things
the project is actually looking for. Do you have a link to the actual
Google program?
http://code.google.com/opensource/gci/2012/index.html
Thanks for the feedback!
-Mo
7:32 a.m.
New subject: Get your work done from GCI students
On 05/12/2012, at 1:58 PM, Mo Morsi wrote:
<snip>
Heh you have to remember these are high school students, so our
menial
tasks are their real world experience (don't know about you but in high
school I was working at a hot dog stand).
At the same time, it probably wouldn't hurt to make the projects as
_interesting_ as possible. When in high school I was still coding in
assembler (demo scene, DOS tsr's, etc) after school.
<snip>
> I'm kind of asking here because I wonder if these are the
sort of things
> the project is actually looking for. Do you have a link to the actual
> Google program?
>
http://code.google.com/opensource/gci/2012/index.html
Interesting, that includes UX stuff:
5. User Interface: Tasks related to user experience research or user
interface design and interaction
Maybe Jarda and/or the other Alchemy guys would have some suitable
tasks in mind?
+ Justin
--
Aeolus Cloud Evangelist
http://www.aeolusproject.org
7:45 a.m.
New subject: Get your work done from GCI students
On 12/05/2012 08:32 AM, Justin Clift wrote:
On 05/12/2012, at 1:58 PM, Mo Morsi wrote:
<snip>
> Heh you have to remember these are high school students, so our menial
> tasks are their real world experience (don't know about you but in high
> school I was working at a hot dog stand).
At the same time, it probably wouldn't hurt to make the projects as
_interesting_ as possible. When in high school I was still coding in
assembler (demo scene, DOS tsr's, etc) after school.
Good point, was doing C++ and web development in high school as well.
Just mention this cause I feel students at that level are generally
appreciative of just getting involved. Also not all students have the
same level of expertise, so the tasks sometimes vary in level of
difficulty (I've already mentored tasks from recording a screencast to
simply setting up an irc bot)
Agree that the more interesting the tasks are (while still being
accomplishable), the better.
-Mo
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