the possibility to detect /home subvolume if fedora with default partition layout is detected.
hi,
firstly,
thank you for a lovly installer.
i'm blind and use orca the screen reader to aid me in installing fedora.
too my question
i'm a end user, could what was asked in the subject line be made a possibility?
usecase, fedora install is completely inoperable and you wish to currently doo a repair install and you wish to retain your home subvolume.
that is to say.
1.
reinstall fedora lieveing your home subvolume alone and using that instead of formatting everything.
this would lieve your userdata alone including your .files.
you would need to make the same user account with the same name etc for this to work.
how i see this in anaconda.
when the installer is launched and you have gone through the language and keybord layout questions, when it getts to the partition stage and default /auto partitioning is selected a question could be asked doo you wish to keep your home partition/volume?
I hope this makes sence.
I would be greatful if you were to considder this.
Majid Hussain
Hello Majid,
thank you for your idea. It's definitely something we could discover. Unfortunately, I'm worried that this will not be a simple change and we are currently working on multiple projects with higher priority so it probably it won't be implemented anytime soon.
Also, not sure if you know about that, but this is now doable with the custom partitioning where you could re-use your existing /home without format. However, I totally understand if the custom partitioning is too complex for you.
Hope the above helps at least a bit.
Best Regards, Jirka
Dne 09. 01. 22 v 0:56 majid hussain napsal(a):
hi,
firstly,
thank you for a lovly installer.
i'm blind and use orca the screen reader to aid me in installing fedora.
too my question
i'm a end user, could what was asked in the subject line be made a possibility?
usecase, fedora install is completely inoperable and you wish to currently doo a repair install and you wish to retain your home subvolume.
that is to say.
reinstall fedora lieveing your home subvolume alone and using that instead of formatting everything.
this would lieve your userdata alone including your .files.
you would need to make the same user account with the same name etc for this to work.
how i see this in anaconda.
when the installer is launched and you have gone through the language and keybord layout questions, when it getts to the partition stage and default /auto partitioning is selected a question could be asked doo you wish to keep your home partition/volume?
I hope this makes sence.
I would be greatful if you were to considder this.
Majid Hussain
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hi there sir Jirka,
my thanks for your responce, I feered that this list was dead? so If I am reading you correctly, and I go custom partitioning with blivet in anaconda, i can untick a box for the volume that is labled home? and anaconda will lieve it alone? and will reuse it as the new /home? will the username and password have to be the same? p.s on a related note not really, I hear that a web-ui version of anaconda is on it's way, I have some issues if you would not mind answering? I use a screen reader, orca and anaconda is very accessible at the moment. if this web-ui is added and the gtk interface is purged then I feer that I will not be able to install future versions of fedora. could you help me in dismissing my feers? r if you have the allmighty power, could you ask the relevent devs unless you happen to be one about this? best way of testing accessibility is to test the new web-ui with orca running and listening to what orca tells you, labled buttons, are the buttons and checkboxes and dropdown boxes accessible and labled? thank you for your help sir Jirka :) Majid Hussain
On 14/01/2022 11:13, Jiri Konecny wrote:
Hello Majid,
thank you for your idea. It's definitely something we could discover. Unfortunately, I'm worried that this will not be a simple change and we are currently working on multiple projects with higher priority so it probably it won't be implemented anytime soon.
Also, not sure if you know about that, but this is now doable with the custom partitioning where you could re-use your existing /home without format. However, I totally understand if the custom partitioning is too complex for you.
Hope the above helps at least a bit.
Best Regards, Jirka
Dne 09. 01. 22 v 0:56 majid hussain napsal(a):
hi,
firstly,
thank you for a lovly installer.
i'm blind and use orca the screen reader to aid me in installing fedora.
too my question
i'm a end user, could what was asked in the subject line be made a possibility?
usecase, fedora install is completely inoperable and you wish to currently doo a repair install and you wish to retain your home subvolume.
that is to say.
reinstall fedora lieveing your home subvolume alone and using that instead of formatting everything.
this would lieve your userdata alone including your .files.
you would need to make the same user account with the same name etc for this to work.
how i see this in anaconda.
when the installer is launched and you have gone through the language and keybord layout questions, when it getts to the partition stage and default /auto partitioning is selected a question could be asked doo you wish to keep your home partition/volume?
I hope this makes sence.
I would be greatful if you were to considder this.
Majid Hussain
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Hi,
more precisely you have to go to the Custom Partitioning, create your partitioning which could be to add existing partitions from the previous installation and uncheck "Reformat" checkbox for your home partition. Precise steps depends on your target partitioning and your current one. Please backup your data first, it's pretty easy to erase your data this way by checking something incorrectly.
No, you have to create a new user. Your username and password are not part of the /home partition, these are stored in the root ('/') and that partition has to be reformated but all your data should stay there and work with the new user.
I don't have experience with the Orca so I can't tell but the new UI should be able to run the installation from a web browser of your choice. I think we browsers should have support for the Orca these days and the support should be much better than what we have in Anaconda. We can check the Orca support but ideally when there will be something for testing we would love to hear your feedback if the web UI will work for you or not.
Best Regards, Jirka
Dne 14. 01. 22 v 17:45 majid hussain napsal(a):
hi there sir Jirka,
my thanks for your responce, I feered that this list was dead? so If I am reading you correctly, and I go custom partitioning with blivet in anaconda, i can untick a box for the volume that is labled home? and anaconda will lieve it alone? and will reuse it as the new /home? will the username and password have to be the same? p.s on a related note not really, I hear that a web-ui version of anaconda is on it's way, I have some issues if you would not mind answering? I use a screen reader, orca and anaconda is very accessible at the moment. if this web-ui is added and the gtk interface is purged then I feer that I will not be able to install future versions of fedora. could you help me in dismissing my feers? r if you have the allmighty power, could you ask the relevent devs unless you happen to be one about this? best way of testing accessibility is to test the new web-ui with orca running and listening to what orca tells you, labled buttons, are the buttons and checkboxes and dropdown boxes accessible and labled? thank you for your help sir Jirka :) Majid Hussain
On 14/01/2022 11:13, Jiri Konecny wrote:
Hello Majid,
thank you for your idea. It's definitely something we could discover. Unfortunately, I'm worried that this will not be a simple change and we are currently working on multiple projects with higher priority so it probably it won't be implemented anytime soon.
Also, not sure if you know about that, but this is now doable with the custom partitioning where you could re-use your existing /home without format. However, I totally understand if the custom partitioning is too complex for you.
Hope the above helps at least a bit.
Best Regards, Jirka
Dne 09. 01. 22 v 0:56 majid hussain napsal(a):
hi,
firstly,
thank you for a lovly installer.
i'm blind and use orca the screen reader to aid me in installing fedora.
too my question
i'm a end user, could what was asked in the subject line be made a possibility?
usecase, fedora install is completely inoperable and you wish to currently doo a repair install and you wish to retain your home subvolume.
that is to say.
reinstall fedora lieveing your home subvolume alone and using that instead of formatting everything.
this would lieve your userdata alone including your .files.
you would need to make the same user account with the same name etc for this to work.
how i see this in anaconda.
when the installer is launched and you have gone through the language and keybord layout questions, when it getts to the partition stage and default /auto partitioning is selected a question could be asked doo you wish to keep your home partition/volume?
I hope this makes sence.
I would be greatful if you were to considder this.
Majid Hussain
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Dne 18. 01. 22 v 10:44 Jiri Konecny napsal(a):
Hi,
more precisely you have to go to the Custom Partitioning, create your partitioning which could be to add existing partitions from the previous installation and uncheck "Reformat" checkbox for your home partition. Precise steps depends on your target partitioning and your current one. Please backup your data first, it's pretty easy to erase your data this way by checking something incorrectly.
No, you have to create a new user. Your username and password are not part of the /home partition, these are stored in the root ('/') and that partition has to be reformated but all your data should stay there and work with the new user.
I don't have experience with the Orca so I can't tell but the new UI should be able to run the installation from a web browser of your choice. I think we browsers should have support for the Orca these days and the support should be much better than what we have in Anaconda. We can check the Orca support but ideally when there will be something for testing we would love to hear your feedback if the web UI will work for you or not.
Just a note, I asked about this issue a Cockpit developer and Anaconda new web UI should support the accessibility correctly because we will be using PatterFly which has this correctly set by default. We have to make sure that there are all pieces correctly set in the ISO but other than that it should be fine.
Jirka
Best Regards, Jirka
Dne 14. 01. 22 v 17:45 majid hussain napsal(a):
hi there sir Jirka,
my thanks for your responce, I feered that this list was dead? so If I am reading you correctly, and I go custom partitioning with blivet in anaconda, i can untick a box for the volume that is labled home? and anaconda will lieve it alone? and will reuse it as the new /home? will the username and password have to be the same? p.s on a related note not really, I hear that a web-ui version of anaconda is on it's way, I have some issues if you would not mind answering? I use a screen reader, orca and anaconda is very accessible at the moment. if this web-ui is added and the gtk interface is purged then I feer that I will not be able to install future versions of fedora. could you help me in dismissing my feers? r if you have the allmighty power, could you ask the relevent devs unless you happen to be one about this? best way of testing accessibility is to test the new web-ui with orca running and listening to what orca tells you, labled buttons, are the buttons and checkboxes and dropdown boxes accessible and labled? thank you for your help sir Jirka :) Majid Hussain
On 14/01/2022 11:13, Jiri Konecny wrote:
Hello Majid,
thank you for your idea. It's definitely something we could discover. Unfortunately, I'm worried that this will not be a simple change and we are currently working on multiple projects with higher priority so it probably it won't be implemented anytime soon.
Also, not sure if you know about that, but this is now doable with the custom partitioning where you could re-use your existing /home without format. However, I totally understand if the custom partitioning is too complex for you.
Hope the above helps at least a bit.
Best Regards, Jirka
Dne 09. 01. 22 v 0:56 majid hussain napsal(a):
hi,
firstly,
thank you for a lovly installer.
i'm blind and use orca the screen reader to aid me in installing fedora.
too my question
i'm a end user, could what was asked in the subject line be made a possibility?
usecase, fedora install is completely inoperable and you wish to currently doo a repair install and you wish to retain your home subvolume.
that is to say.
reinstall fedora lieveing your home subvolume alone and using that instead of formatting everything.
this would lieve your userdata alone including your .files.
you would need to make the same user account with the same name etc for this to work.
how i see this in anaconda.
when the installer is launched and you have gone through the language and keybord layout questions, when it getts to the partition stage and default /auto partitioning is selected a question could be asked doo you wish to keep your home partition/volume?
I hope this makes sence.
I would be greatful if you were to considder this.
Majid Hussain
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On Tue, Jan 18, 2022 at 8:01 AM Jiri Konecny jkonecny@redhat.com wrote:
Dne 18. 01. 22 v 10:44 Jiri Konecny napsal(a):
Hi,
more precisely you have to go to the Custom Partitioning, create your partitioning which could be to add existing partitions from the previous installation and uncheck "Reformat" checkbox for your home partition. Precise steps depends on your target partitioning and your current one. Please backup your data first, it's pretty easy to erase your data this way by checking something incorrectly.
No, you have to create a new user. Your username and password are not part of the /home partition, these are stored in the root ('/') and that partition has to be reformated but all your data should stay there and work with the new user.
I don't have experience with the Orca so I can't tell but the new UI should be able to run the installation from a web browser of your choice. I think we browsers should have support for the Orca these days and the support should be much better than what we have in Anaconda. We can check the Orca support but ideally when there will be something for testing we would love to hear your feedback if the web UI will work for you or not.
Just a note, I asked about this issue a Cockpit developer and Anaconda new web UI should support the accessibility correctly because we will be using PatterFly which has this correctly set by default. We have to make sure that there are all pieces correctly set in the ISO but other than that it should be fine.
Patternfly doesn't automatically guarantee accessibility. You still have to design and test to make sure it works properly with accessibility tools.
If you have an existing default installation (btrfs for Fedora desktops), you can reuse the existing "home" subvolume. There are a couple of tricks to make it possible. This is a bit verbose and technical, but is designed for Fedora QA to test that this continues to work as expected. https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/QA:Testcase_partitioning_custom_btrfs_preserv...
Another idea for auto-discovery is a "discoverable subvolumes specification" similar to the already existing Discoverable Partitions Specification. It's not limited to btrfs subvolumes, supporting plain directories following the naming scheme. Plausibly also LVM. We'll just have to see if this gains traction at some point. Of course it would also need installer integration. https://lists.freedesktop.org/archives/systemd-devel/2021-November/047059.ht...
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