On 11/01/2012 12:21 PM, Quentin Armitage wrote:
David,

I'd be very happy to help with building images. I have a Dreamplug currently running F18 from an old nightly snapshot, which has been fully updated via yum. I'd happily put F17 on that and have a go at creating some images, or would it be acceptable to create the images on an F18 system?

It would be acceptable, but it is currently untested.  The only potential issue I can see is that the F18 tools (anaconda and lorax) do not yet make images, so you would have to install the F17 versions from xpfa.  I'm not sure if that would cause dependency issues (F17 tools on F18).

I have a USB hard drive available, so that's not a problem. You make reference to 1Gb of memory, but my Dreamplugs
and Sheevaplugs have 512Mb of memory. Will that be sufficient if there is enough swap space?

My understanding is that as long as the total memory is sufficient (RAM + swap) it should be ok.  Again, I have not tested this, as my builders all have 1GB or greater, but it should work.

I've never used kickstart files before but am happy to learn.

There are examples on the Installer wiki page, and I'll be happy to help.  The only things that are different between platforms, and that would need to change, is the package list (if the *plugs need any special packages that are not already included) and the bootloader setup in the %post section.  The commands in the %post section are just bash commands, so no new scripting language or special commands are required.  I'd start with the trimslice kickstart as a base, since it is the simplest, and modify from there.

Would the guys at Seneca College have anything useful to help with this, since I see that the nightly composes of images started again yesterday?

I can't answer for them, but IIUC once we have stable kickstart config files into git (spins-kickstart) and the F18 tools are working for images, I believe this will all be done through koji.  In the mean time, it's a manual process, but nothing says it could not be scripted (i.e., a cron job at seneca).

Please look over the Installer wiki and let me know if you have questions.


Thank you,

d.marlin
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With best wishes,
Quentin


On Wed, 2012-10-31 at 17:09 -0500, David Marlin wrote: 
It was brought to my attention that the F18 Alpha lacked a Kirkwood 
image, which we had for F17.  We have been creating images for F18 using 
livemedia-creator (anaconda and lorax), where the F17 images were 
manually created using a custom script.

The process we use is described on the wiki:

   http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Architectures/ARM/Installer

All the builders we have used for creating the F18 images are F17 
armv7hl (hard-fp) systems.  I personally have no experience with the 
Kirkwood devices, so I don't know what is needed to set up the image or 
configure the bootloader.

We would appreciate volunteers running F17 on Kirkwood devices to help 
in creating an F18 image for those devices.  The only development 
involved would be customizing the kickstart file to 1) include any 
special packages required for the device, and 2) set up any bootloader 
specific files/scripts needed for the device.  The remainder of the 
effort would be to build and test the image.  The hardware requirements 
include an ARMv5 device running F17-GA or later with access to external 
storage (requires space for the packages being installed and the 
resulting image) and swap (requires >1GB total memory).

We have created v7hl images using a Trim Slice (1GB memory plus 500MB 
swap) with external (USB) hard drive, so something similar would 
probably work.

I am willing to provide assistance and answer questions about using the 
tools and modifying the kickstart config file, but I have no ARMv5 
hardware on which to build or test these images.


Thank you,

d.marlin

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