In the meeting right after the F33 release, we talked about identifying a handful of key devices and making sure anyone with a serious interest in testing or enablement work has what they need. I've talked with Marie, and while we're not overflowing with cash, Fedora does have unspent budget which would normally have gone to travel sponsorships and this seems to be a reasonable thing to use some of it on. IoT is a Fedora Edition, after all, and worth investing in.
At that meeting, we talked about y'all coming up with a list of specific hardware we can order for people. Because reimbursements are a mess right now for unrelated reasons, it's easiest when it's something Marie can actually go to a web store, click some buttons, and have shipped direct. Can y'all (IoT WG and ARM SIG) come up with a formal list with prices and URLs? (Also, if other things like microsd cards need to be included?)
Of course, once we have a list of hardware, I'd also like to send it to people. I know there's some worry about people volunteering, getting stuff, and not actually doing anything. We want to make sure the devices are going to people who will actually be able to make use of them. But I also don't want that to be a blocker, so, if you're new but serious I am willing to consider including you too. (Perhaps with the promise that if your best intentions don't work out, you find someone else to pass the hardware on to.)
Rather than people emailing me at random, which is easy for me to drop, can the WG and/or SIG come up with a list of people? I'm thinking something like a dozen people and 1-3 devices each depending on commitment level.
On Tue, Nov 10, 2020 at 11:30 AM Matthew Miller mattdm@fedoraproject.org wrote:
At that meeting, we talked about y'all coming up with a list of specific hardware we can order for people.
I would love to see the nVidia Jetson Nano (roughly $99 USD) or Jetson Nano 2GB (roughly $54 USD) on that list. I have to of the 4GB version, and thanks to Peter and a few other people doing lots of thankless work, they work quite well out of the box with F33.
I'm also happy to volunteer to help test ARM images and the IoT spin on said hardware.
-Jared
Matthew,
If this is not already on the agenda, I will bring this up at the IoT Working Group meeting tomorrow (2020-11-11 from 14:00:00 to 15:00:00 UTC in #fedora-meeting).
Just for reference, at the current time, we have the following page in the IoT docs [0] that discusses "Reference Platforms". At the same time, we also have this page [1] in the ARM docs that lists "Supported Hardware and Devices", and this page [2] that lists "Fedora ARM Supported Platforms". I'm bringing this up if only so we can consolidate terms across our docs (as far as what we will call this list of "key devices") and to perhaps have a starting point of hardware that has been "supported" in the past/is currently "supported" [3].
If we plan to have the Jetson Nano supported in IoT, I am also +1 to that being one of the distributed platforms.
Geoff Marr IRC: coremodule
[0] https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/iot/reference-platforms/ [1] https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Architectures/ARM [2] https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Architectures/ARM/Supported_Platforms [3] https://pagure.io/fedora-qa/issue/615
On Tue, Nov 10, 2020 at 9:31 AM Matthew Miller mattdm@fedoraproject.org wrote:
In the meeting right after the F33 release, we talked about identifying a handful of key devices and making sure anyone with a serious interest in testing or enablement work has what they need. I've talked with Marie, and while we're not overflowing with cash, Fedora does have unspent budget which would normally have gone to travel sponsorships and this seems to be a reasonable thing to use some of it on. IoT is a Fedora Edition, after all, and worth investing in.
At that meeting, we talked about y'all coming up with a list of specific hardware we can order for people. Because reimbursements are a mess right now for unrelated reasons, it's easiest when it's something Marie can actually go to a web store, click some buttons, and have shipped direct. Can y'all (IoT WG and ARM SIG) come up with a formal list with prices and URLs? (Also, if other things like microsd cards need to be included?)
Of course, once we have a list of hardware, I'd also like to send it to people. I know there's some worry about people volunteering, getting stuff, and not actually doing anything. We want to make sure the devices are going to people who will actually be able to make use of them. But I also don't want that to be a blocker, so, if you're new but serious I am willing to consider including you too. (Perhaps with the promise that if your best intentions don't work out, you find someone else to pass the hardware on to.)
Rather than people emailing me at random, which is easy for me to drop, can the WG and/or SIG come up with a list of people? I'm thinking something like a dozen people and 1-3 devices each depending on commitment level.
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On Tue, Nov 10, 2020 at 11:28:49AM -0500, Matthew Miller wrote:
In the meeting right after the F33 release, we talked about identifying a handful of key devices and making sure anyone with a serious interest in testing or enablement work has what they need. I've talked with Marie, and while we're not overflowing with cash, Fedora does have unspent budget which would normally have gone to travel sponsorships and this seems to be a reasonable thing to use some of it on. IoT is a Fedora Edition, after all, and worth investing in.
At that meeting, we talked about y'all coming up with a list of specific hardware we can order for people. Because reimbursements are a mess right now for unrelated reasons, it's easiest when it's something Marie can actually go to a web store, click some buttons, and have shipped direct. Can y'all (IoT WG and ARM SIG) come up with a formal list with prices and URLs? (Also, if other things like microsd cards need to be included?)
Of course, once we have a list of hardware, I'd also like to send it to people. I know there's some worry about people volunteering, getting stuff, and not actually doing anything. We want to make sure the devices are going to people who will actually be able to make use of them. But I also don't want that to be a blocker, so, if you're new but serious I am willing to consider including you too. (Perhaps with the promise that if your best intentions don't work out, you find someone else to pass the hardware on to.)
Rather than people emailing me at random, which is easy for me to drop, can the WG and/or SIG come up with a list of people? I'm thinking something like a dozen people and 1-3 devices each depending on commitment level.
I have some very old pine64 boards and a beagleboneblack here... I'd be happy to test some more up to date hardware.
kevin
I have an old pine64 and a rpi 3 model b+, I am happy to help in testing as well.
If there is a list of supported devices, then people can add their names who have them and want to help test Fedora on them, that would be very helpful. During the time of a release, QA can just ask them if they have tested the release candidate image on them and get feedback from them directly rather than putting more work on arm folks to test the image on every supported platform.
On Tue, Nov 10, 2020 at 1:07 PM Kevin Fenzi kevin@scrye.com wrote:
On Tue, Nov 10, 2020 at 11:28:49AM -0500, Matthew Miller wrote:
In the meeting right after the F33 release, we talked about identifying a handful of key devices and making sure anyone with a serious interest in testing or enablement work has what they need. I've talked with Marie, and while we're not overflowing with cash, Fedora does have unspent budget which would normally have gone to travel sponsorships and this seems to be a reasonable thing to use some of it on. IoT is a Fedora Edition, after all, and worth investing in.
At that meeting, we talked about y'all coming up with a list of specific hardware we can order for people. Because reimbursements are a mess right now for unrelated reasons, it's easiest when it's something Marie can actually go to a web store, click some buttons, and have shipped direct. Can y'all (IoT WG and ARM SIG) come up with a formal list with prices and URLs? (Also, if other things like microsd cards need to be included?)
Of course, once we have a list of hardware, I'd also like to send it to people. I know there's some worry about people volunteering, getting stuff, and not actually doing anything. We want to make sure the devices are going to people who will actually be able to make use of them. But I also don't want that to be a blocker, so, if you're new but serious I am willing to consider including you too. (Perhaps with the promise that if your best intentions don't work out, you find someone else to pass the hardware on to.)
Rather than people emailing me at random, which is easy for me to drop, can the WG and/or SIG come up with a list of people? I'm thinking something like a dozen people and 1-3 devices each depending on commitment level.
I have some very old pine64 boards and a beagleboneblack here... I'd be happy to test some more up to date hardware.
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I can test with RPI4, Pine64 and SoPine.
Cheers,
Daniel
On Tue, Nov 10, 2020 at 5:06 PM Mohan Boddu mboddu@bhujji.com wrote:
I have an old pine64 and a rpi 3 model b+, I am happy to help in testing as well.
If there is a list of supported devices, then people can add their names who have them and want to help test Fedora on them, that would be very helpful. During the time of a release, QA can just ask them if they have tested the release candidate image on them and get feedback from them directly rather than putting more work on arm folks to test the image on every supported platform.
On Tue, Nov 10, 2020 at 1:07 PM Kevin Fenzi kevin@scrye.com wrote:
On Tue, Nov 10, 2020 at 11:28:49AM -0500, Matthew Miller wrote:
In the meeting right after the F33 release, we talked about
identifying a
handful of key devices and making sure anyone with a serious interest
in
testing or enablement work has what they need. I've talked with Marie,
and
while we're not overflowing with cash, Fedora does have unspent budget
which
would normally have gone to travel sponsorships and this seems to be a reasonable thing to use some of it on. IoT is a Fedora Edition, after
all,
and worth investing in.
At that meeting, we talked about y'all coming up with a list of
specific
hardware we can order for people. Because reimbursements are a mess
right
now for unrelated reasons, it's easiest when it's something Marie can actually go to a web store, click some buttons, and have shipped
direct. Can
y'all (IoT WG and ARM SIG) come up with a formal list with prices and
URLs?
(Also, if other things like microsd cards need to be included?)
Of course, once we have a list of hardware, I'd also like to send it to people. I know there's some worry about people volunteering, getting
stuff,
and not actually doing anything. We want to make sure the devices are
going
to people who will actually be able to make use of them. But I also
don't
want that to be a blocker, so, if you're new but serious I am willing
to
consider including you too. (Perhaps with the promise that if your best intentions don't work out, you find someone else to pass the hardware
on
to.)
Rather than people emailing me at random, which is easy for me to
drop, can
the WG and/or SIG come up with a list of people? I'm thinking
something like
a dozen people and 1-3 devices each depending on commitment level.
I have some very old pine64 boards and a beagleboneblack here... I'd be happy to test some more up to date hardware.
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I would also like to help.
From my side Helios64 (NAS-storage) and Pinebook Pro (Laptop), both with rk3399
Thanks
Andreas
Am 10.11.20 um 23:40 schrieb Daniel Riek:
I can test with RPI4, Pine64 and SoPine.
Cheers,
Daniel
On Tue, Nov 10, 2020 at 5:06 PM Mohan Boddu <mboddu@bhujji.com mailto:mboddu@bhujji.com> wrote:
I have an old pine64 and a rpi 3 model b+, I am happy to help in testing as well. If there is a list of supported devices, then people can add their names who have them and want to help test Fedora on them, that would be very helpful. During the time of a release, QA can just ask them if they have tested the release candidate image on them and get feedback from them directly rather than putting more work on arm folks to test the image on every supported platform. On Tue, Nov 10, 2020 at 1:07 PM Kevin Fenzi <kevin@scrye.com <mailto:kevin@scrye.com>> wrote: > > On Tue, Nov 10, 2020 at 11:28:49AM -0500, Matthew Miller wrote: > > In the meeting right after the F33 release, we talked about identifying a > > handful of key devices and making sure anyone with a serious interest in > > testing or enablement work has what they need. I've talked with Marie, and > > while we're not overflowing with cash, Fedora does have unspent budget which > > would normally have gone to travel sponsorships and this seems to be a > > reasonable thing to use some of it on. IoT is a Fedora Edition, after all, > > and worth investing in. > > > > At that meeting, we talked about y'all coming up with a list of specific > > hardware we can order for people. Because reimbursements are a mess right > > now for unrelated reasons, it's easiest when it's something Marie can > > actually go to a web store, click some buttons, and have shipped direct. Can > > y'all (IoT WG and ARM SIG) come up with a formal list with prices and URLs? > > (Also, if other things like microsd cards need to be included?) > > > > Of course, once we have a list of hardware, I'd also like to send it to > > people. I know there's some worry about people volunteering, getting stuff, > > and not actually doing anything. We want to make sure the devices are going > > to people who will actually be able to make use of them. But I also don't > > want that to be a blocker, so, if you're new but serious I am willing to > > consider including you too. (Perhaps with the promise that if your best > > intentions don't work out, you find someone else to pass the hardware on > > to.) > > > > Rather than people emailing me at random, which is easy for me to drop, can > > the WG and/or SIG come up with a list of people? I'm thinking something like > > a dozen people and 1-3 devices each depending on commitment level. > > I have some very old pine64 boards and a beagleboneblack here... > I'd be happy to test some more up to date hardware. > > kevin > _______________________________________________ > arm mailing list -- arm@lists.fedoraproject.org <mailto:arm@lists.fedoraproject.org> > To unsubscribe send an email to arm-leave@lists.fedoraproject.org <mailto:arm-leave@lists.fedoraproject.org> > Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ <https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/> > List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines <https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines> > List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/arm@lists.fedoraproject.org <https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/arm@lists.fedoraproject.org> _______________________________________________ arm mailing list -- arm@lists.fedoraproject.org <mailto:arm@lists.fedoraproject.org> To unsubscribe send an email to arm-leave@lists.fedoraproject.org <mailto:arm-leave@lists.fedoraproject.org> Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ <https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/> List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines <https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines> List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/arm@lists.fedoraproject.org <https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/arm@lists.fedoraproject.org>
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On Wednesday, 11 November 2020 at 08:20, Andreas Reschke wrote:
I would also like to help.
From my side Helios64 (NAS-storage) and Pinebook Pro (Laptop), both with rk3399
Pinebook Pro here as well. Happy to help with testing.
Regards, Dominik
On Tue, Nov 10, 2020 at 05:40:07PM -0500, Daniel Riek wrote:
I can test with RPI4, Pine64 and SoPine.
Awesome -- thanks!
Hi Matthew & ARM & IOT SIGs,
I have a Raspberry Pi 4 (8GB) and a Pinebook Pro as of now and would be more than happy to test anything that you throw at me.
In case there is some simpler development task to be done, I'd love to help out.
Cheers,
Dan
Matthew Miller mattdm@fedoraproject.org writes:
In the meeting right after the F33 release, we talked about identifying a handful of key devices and making sure anyone with a serious interest in testing or enablement work has what they need. I've talked with Marie, and while we're not overflowing with cash, Fedora does have unspent budget which would normally have gone to travel sponsorships and this seems to be a reasonable thing to use some of it on. IoT is a Fedora Edition, after all, and worth investing in.
At that meeting, we talked about y'all coming up with a list of specific hardware we can order for people. Because reimbursements are a mess right now for unrelated reasons, it's easiest when it's something Marie can actually go to a web store, click some buttons, and have shipped direct. Can y'all (IoT WG and ARM SIG) come up with a formal list with prices and URLs? (Also, if other things like microsd cards need to be included?)
Of course, once we have a list of hardware, I'd also like to send it to people. I know there's some worry about people volunteering, getting stuff, and not actually doing anything. We want to make sure the devices are going to people who will actually be able to make use of them. But I also don't want that to be a blocker, so, if you're new but serious I am willing to consider including you too. (Perhaps with the promise that if your best intentions don't work out, you find someone else to pass the hardware on to.)
Rather than people emailing me at random, which is easy for me to drop, can the WG and/or SIG come up with a list of people? I'm thinking something like a dozen people and 1-3 devices each depending on commitment level.
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W dniu 10.11.2020 o 17:28, Matthew Miller pisze:
Rather than people emailing me at random, which is easy for me to drop, can the WG and/or SIG come up with a list of people? I'm thinking something like a dozen people and 1-3 devices each depending on commitment level.
I have RockPro64 and APM Mustang running.
Pine64 (Kickstarter edition) and some old 32-bit systems (PandaBoard EA1, Beaglebone White) in storage.
I think people have mis-understood what was being asked. The question wasn't "What do people want to be supported in Fedora" it was "What do we support or are planning on supporting soon."
There is only so much time that Peter and the few others have.
On Thu, Nov 12, 2020 at 11:44 AM Stuart D Gathman stuart@gathman.org wrote:
On Thu, 12 Nov 2020, Marcin Juszkiewicz wrote:
I have RockPro64 and APM Mustang running.
I have the PineBook (not the Pro) currently running Fedora 32 - but a lot of stuff doesn't work (internal radios, microphones). What is needed for testing? A device and scratch SD card? _______________________________________________ arm mailing list -- arm@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to arm-leave@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/arm@lists.fedoraproject.org
On Thu, Nov 12, 2020 at 11:53:04AM -0800, Troy Dawson wrote:
I think people have mis-understood what was being asked. The question wasn't "What do people want to be supported in Fedora" it was "What do we support or are planning on supporting soon."
There is only so much time that Peter and the few others have.
I want to make it clear that I totally appreciate everyone's enthusiasm!
That said, I would like the people doing the bulk of the actual enablement work to formally come up with the short list. Then, as I mentioned, we can make sure anyone who is willing to test has the selected hardware at hand. We have budget set aside for this.
It doesn't hurt to try on other things, of course. And if you're actually able to help with enablement on a device you care about, that's AWESOME and maybe we can also consider that device.
Hi,
On Tue, Nov 10, 2020 at 11:28:49AM -0500, Matthew Miller wrote:
In the meeting right after the F33 release, we talked about identifying a handful of key devices and making sure anyone with a serious interest in
this would be great. I have a few devices collecting dust because it was never clear whether they would be supported, happy to help with some testing if they are on the list or getting something that would be a key device long term. Would be great if there could be something not too expensive to setup an OpenShift cluster for demonstration purposes like https://pine64.com/product/clusterboard-with-7-sopine-compute-module-slots/?...
Thanks Till
Hi Matthew,
Matthew Miller mattdm@fedoraproject.org writes:
In the meeting right after the F33 release, we talked about identifying a handful of key devices and making sure anyone with a serious interest in testing or enablement work has what they need. I've talked with Marie, and while we're not overflowing with cash, Fedora does have unspent budget which would normally have gone to travel sponsorships and this seems to be a reasonable thing to use some of it on. IoT is a Fedora Edition, after all, and worth investing in.
At that meeting, we talked about y'all coming up with a list of specific hardware we can order for people. Because reimbursements are a mess right now for unrelated reasons, it's easiest when it's something Marie can actually go to a web store, click some buttons, and have shipped direct. Can y'all (IoT WG and ARM SIG) come up with a formal list with prices and URLs? (Also, if other things like microsd cards need to be included?)
So, after initially completely missing the point of your email, I'd actually have a hardware request. This might be an odd one, but I would like to setup a bare metal testing setup for openQA, which requires a device that can automatically flash sd cards and insert them into the system under test. I've been recommended the following board for that: https://shop.linux-automation.com/usb_sd_mux-D02-R01-V02-C00
I know this is rather special and not an IOT board itself, but it could be rather useful for automated verification of our iot/arm images (hopefully to be eventually installed in Adam's test lab). At ~110€ (including shipping), it is unfortunately just a shy too expensive for me to just order it.
Would this be a possibility? I can also provide you with more details about what I've got planned here.
Cheers,
Dan
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