Hi Folks,
I finally got some time over the weekend to dig into Fedora on the RPi5.
The TL;DR is that there won't be any way of even basic support officially for F-40 GA.
For those interested in more details.....
The main pieces missing from the upstream kernel to boot to a login prompt over serial is appear to be the following: * The SoC pinctrl driver * Support in the mmc storage driver for the SoC variant * Minor bits for the gpio driver
I'm not aware of any efforts to get anything upstream, I've not seen patches on lists etc.
We have the firmware (bcm/u-boot) pieces in place in Fedora 40 and the kernel will start to boot and you get serial console output except you end up at a dracut prompt due to lack of storage.
I am considering doing a Fedora kernel with patches in copr, and probably a F-40 remix minimal image, to enable minimal boot so other low level developers can use it as a basis for further investigation for things like upstream development. I don't have a timeline for this yet but I suspect late April. At the moment this looks like it'll be mSD, WiFi, serial console support and not much else. I've not looked at PCIe, the RP1 chip, or any other peripherals at all.
I'll reply to this thread if/when I have any further updates, feel free to reference it elsewhere.
Until there's either a kernel or kernel+image unless you can contribute to upstream kernel pieces there's probably nothing that can be done like "testing". If you can do kernel and would like to assist me feel free to reachout outside of this thread.
Peter
Hi Peter, Thank you for all your efforts.
I just thought about rpmfusion's images for RPix, while they are using the downstream kernel, they might consider adding the support for RPi5, this one instead of make a new remix, if that make sense.
Sally
On Sun, 2024-03-17 at 18:21 +0000, Peter Robinson wrote:
Hi Folks,
I finally got some time over the weekend to dig into Fedora on the RPi5.
The TL;DR is that there won't be any way of even basic support officially for F-40 GA.
For those interested in more details.....
The main pieces missing from the upstream kernel to boot to a login prompt over serial is appear to be the following:
- The SoC pinctrl driver
- Support in the mmc storage driver for the SoC variant
- Minor bits for the gpio driver
I'm not aware of any efforts to get anything upstream, I've not seen patches on lists etc.
We have the firmware (bcm/u-boot) pieces in place in Fedora 40 and the kernel will start to boot and you get serial console output except you end up at a dracut prompt due to lack of storage.
I am considering doing a Fedora kernel with patches in copr, and probably a F-40 remix minimal image, to enable minimal boot so other low level developers can use it as a basis for further investigation for things like upstream development. I don't have a timeline for this yet but I suspect late April. At the moment this looks like it'll be mSD, WiFi, serial console support and not much else. I've not looked at PCIe, the RP1 chip, or any other peripherals at all.
I'll reply to this thread if/when I have any further updates, feel free to reference it elsewhere.
Until there's either a kernel or kernel+image unless you can contribute to upstream kernel pieces there's probably nothing that can be done like "testing". If you can do kernel and would like to assist me feel free to reachout outside of this thread.
Peter
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On Sun, 17 Mar 2024 at 21:38, Sally A.haj sallyahaj@yahoo.com wrote:
Hi Peter, Thank you for all your efforts.
I just thought about rpmfusion's images for RPix, while they are using the downstream kernel, they might consider adding the support for RPi5, this one instead of make a new remix, if that make sense.
I have no idea what RPix is. My intention is to ultimately get everything into Fedora, the remix is intended to be short lived and assist in moving forward the upstreaming.
Sally
On Sun, 2024-03-17 at 18:21 +0000, Peter Robinson wrote:
Hi Folks,
I finally got some time over the weekend to dig into Fedora on the RPi5.
The TL;DR is that there won't be any way of even basic support officially for F-40 GA.
For those interested in more details.....
The main pieces missing from the upstream kernel to boot to a login prompt over serial is appear to be the following:
- The SoC pinctrl driver
- Support in the mmc storage driver for the SoC variant
- Minor bits for the gpio driver
I'm not aware of any efforts to get anything upstream, I've not seen patches on lists etc.
We have the firmware (bcm/u-boot) pieces in place in Fedora 40 and the kernel will start to boot and you get serial console output except you end up at a dracut prompt due to lack of storage.
I am considering doing a Fedora kernel with patches in copr, and probably a F-40 remix minimal image, to enable minimal boot so other low level developers can use it as a basis for further investigation for things like upstream development. I don't have a timeline for this yet but I suspect late April. At the moment this looks like it'll be mSD, WiFi, serial console support and not much else. I've not looked at PCIe, the RP1 chip, or any other peripherals at all.
I'll reply to this thread if/when I have any further updates, feel free to reference it elsewhere.
Until there's either a kernel or kernel+image unless you can contribute to upstream kernel pieces there's probably nothing that can be done like "testing". If you can do kernel and would like to assist me feel free to reachout outside of this thread.
Peter
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On Sun, 2024-03-17 at 21:51 +0000, Peter Robinson wrote:
On Sun, 17 Mar 2024 at 21:38, Sally A.haj sallyahaj@yahoo.com wrote:
Hi Peter, Thank you for all your efforts.
I just thought about rpmfusion's images for RPix, while they are using the downstream kernel, they might consider adding the support for RPi5, this one instead of make a new remix, if that make sense.
I have no idea what RPix is. My intention is to ultimately get everything into Fedora, the remix is intended to be short lived and assist in moving forward the upstreaming.
I got your point. The project of rpmfusion seems in a different direction: https://rpmfusion.org/Howto/RaspberryPi Their images are for RPi 3 B/B+ & 4 B/400
Sally
On Sun, 2024-03-17 at 18:21 +0000, Peter Robinson wrote:
Hi Folks,
I finally got some time over the weekend to dig into Fedora on the RPi5.
The TL;DR is that there won't be any way of even basic support officially for F-40 GA.
For those interested in more details.....
The main pieces missing from the upstream kernel to boot to a login prompt over serial is appear to be the following:
- The SoC pinctrl driver
- Support in the mmc storage driver for the SoC variant
- Minor bits for the gpio driver
I'm not aware of any efforts to get anything upstream, I've not seen patches on lists etc.
We have the firmware (bcm/u-boot) pieces in place in Fedora 40 and the kernel will start to boot and you get serial console output except you end up at a dracut prompt due to lack of storage.
I am considering doing a Fedora kernel with patches in copr, and probably a F-40 remix minimal image, to enable minimal boot so other low level developers can use it as a basis for further investigation for things like upstream development. I don't have a timeline for this yet but I suspect late April. At the moment this looks like it'll be mSD, WiFi, serial console support and not much else. I've not looked at PCIe, the RP1 chip, or any other peripherals at all.
I'll reply to this thread if/when I have any further updates, feel free to reference it elsewhere.
Until there's either a kernel or kernel+image unless you can contribute to upstream kernel pieces there's probably nothing that can be done like "testing". If you can do kernel and would like to assist me feel free to reachout outside of this thread.
Peter
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If your local to Northern Virginia I'd love to see a kernel presentation at NoVALUG I'm not a kernel hacker But would like seeing some issues involved as a long time Linux LUG guy
On Sun, Mar 17, 2024, 17:51 Peter Robinson pbrobinson@gmail.com wrote:
On Sun, 17 Mar 2024 at 21:38, Sally A.haj sallyahaj@yahoo.com wrote:
Hi Peter, Thank you for all your efforts.
I just thought about rpmfusion's images for RPix, while they are using the downstream kernel, they might consider adding the support for RPi5, this one instead of make a new remix, if that make sense.
I have no idea what RPix is. My intention is to ultimately get everything into Fedora, the remix is intended to be short lived and assist in moving forward the upstreaming.
Sally
On Sun, 2024-03-17 at 18:21 +0000, Peter Robinson wrote:
Hi Folks,
I finally got some time over the weekend to dig into Fedora on the RPi5.
The TL;DR is that there won't be any way of even basic support officially for F-40 GA.
For those interested in more details.....
The main pieces missing from the upstream kernel to boot to a login prompt over serial is appear to be the following:
- The SoC pinctrl driver
- Support in the mmc storage driver for the SoC variant
- Minor bits for the gpio driver
I'm not aware of any efforts to get anything upstream, I've not seen patches on lists etc.
We have the firmware (bcm/u-boot) pieces in place in Fedora 40 and the kernel will start to boot and you get serial console output except you end up at a dracut prompt due to lack of storage.
I am considering doing a Fedora kernel with patches in copr, and probably a F-40 remix minimal image, to enable minimal boot so other low level developers can use it as a basis for further investigation for things like upstream development. I don't have a timeline for this yet but I suspect late April. At the moment this looks like it'll be mSD, WiFi, serial console support and not much else. I've not looked at PCIe, the RP1 chip, or any other peripherals at all.
I'll reply to this thread if/when I have any further updates, feel free to reference it elsewhere.
Until there's either a kernel or kernel+image unless you can contribute to upstream kernel pieces there's probably nothing that can be done like "testing". If you can do kernel and would like to assist me feel free to reachout outside of this thread.
Peter
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On 17 Mar 2024, at 18:23, Peter Robinson pbrobinson@gmail.com wrote:
The TL;DR is that there won't be any way of even basic support officially for F-40 GA.
There are people asking for status on https://discuss.python.org/ and I have replied pointing to this thread. I will continue to help with the conversation on discuss.
Barry
On 18 Mar 2024, at 08:14, Barry barry@barrys-emacs.org wrote:
There are people asking for status on https://discuss.python.org/
Doh! Asking on https://discussion.fedoraproject.org/ I meant to say…
Barry
I also would like to get more info about the RPI5 status. I am using the coper image to run it for the moment.
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