5:11 p.m.
Hello.
I dont hide my interest in the installation of fedora on the Jetson nano. I
would like to understand what works and what not. Can I have a more modern
OS than Ubuntu 18.04 ? help me to understand. Very thanks.
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4:03 a.m.
Le mar. 9 mai 2023 à 00:12, Mario Marietto <marietto2008(a)gmail.com> a écrit :
Hello.
I dont hide my interest in the installation of fedora on the Jetson nano. I would like to
understand what works and what not. Can I have a more modern OS than Ubuntu 18.04 ? help
me to understand. Very thanks.
I have a Jetson TX1 that shares the same SOC (tegra210). In a headless
server configuration it works pretty well. But in graphical, using
accelerated graphics (with nouveau) is unpractical. Probably because
of the lack of EMC (External Memory Controller) frequency scaling. So
in the Jetson TX1 case, the EMC is locked at the bootloader frequency
(800Mhz instead of 1600Mhz, for Nano it might be even lower). And that
seems to produce some graphical failure with nouveau has seen in the
mesa bug tracker (search for tegra tags). With nouveau being
blacklisted, the device can use llvm just fine, but then it's not
efficient, Also there is no video hw support. and CI/CSI (for camera)
support (yet, but that might land at some point)...
Hope this helps.
8:05 p.m.
New subject: Fedora for Tegra / jetson nano : how good is it ?
On 09/05/2023 10:03, Nicolas Chauvet wrote:
Le mar. 9 mai 2023 à 00:12, Mario Marietto
<marietto2008(a)gmail.com> a écrit :
> Hello.
>
> I dont hide my interest in the installation of fedora on the Jetson nano. I would
like to understand what works and what not. Can I have a more modern OS than Ubuntu 18.04
? help me to understand. Very thanks.
I have a Jetson TX1 that shares the same SOC (tegra210). In a headless
server configuration it works pretty well. But in graphical, using
accelerated graphics (with nouveau) is unpractical. Probably because
of the lack of EMC (External Memory Controller) frequency scaling. So
in the Jetson TX1 case, the EMC is locked at the bootloader frequency
(800Mhz instead of 1600Mhz, for Nano it might be even lower). And that
seems to produce some graphical failure with nouveau has seen in the
mesa bug tracker (search for tegra tags). With nouveau being
blacklisted, the device can use llvm just fine, but then it's not
efficient, Also there is no video hw support. and CI/CSI (for camera)
support (yet, but that might land at some point)...
Hope this helps.
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It's a pity that they are still using 18.04 which is scheduled for end
of life at the end of this month and 23.04 is current.
I have the JetsonNano 2GB and 4GB.
Regards
Sid.
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6:41 a.m.
You know the business plans of nVidia,right ? If you want recent software
and support,you should buy their new product in 2,3 years. (in the socs
world,while in the PC world every year your expensive gpu value will be
zero and even its performances). Jetson nano born in 2019,it lasts 3 years.
Yes,it seems old,numerically speaking,but it is still perfect for a lot of
use cases. The task to keep it updated has been poured on the developers
and final users with a low-medium level of experience. I've been able to
upgrade ubuntu 18.04 to ubuntu 22.04,everything works good except for the
GPU that can't be enabled because it seems strictly tied to CUDA 10. They
say that CUDA 11 will not work on the Jetson nano. If I want to use it,I
should buy the Jetson orin.
On Wed, May 10, 2023 at 3:06 AM Sid Boyce <sboyce(a)blueyonder.co.uk> wrote:
On 09/05/2023 10:03, Nicolas Chauvet wrote:
> Le mar. 9 mai 2023 à 00:12, Mario Marietto <marietto2008(a)gmail.com> a
écrit :
>> Hello.
>>
>> I dont hide my interest in the installation of fedora on the Jetson
nano. I would like to understand what works and what not. Can I have a more
modern OS than Ubuntu 18.04 ? help me to understand. Very thanks.
> I have a Jetson TX1 that shares the same SOC (tegra210). In a headless
> server configuration it works pretty well. But in graphical, using
> accelerated graphics (with nouveau) is unpractical. Probably because
> of the lack of EMC (External Memory Controller) frequency scaling. So
> in the Jetson TX1 case, the EMC is locked at the bootloader frequency
> (800Mhz instead of 1600Mhz, for Nano it might be even lower). And that
> seems to produce some graphical failure with nouveau has seen in the
> mesa bug tracker (search for tegra tags). With nouveau being
> blacklisted, the device can use llvm just fine, but then it's not
> efficient, Also there is no video hw support. and CI/CSI (for camera)
> support (yet, but that might land at some point)...
>
> Hope this helps.
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It's a pity that they are still using 18.04 which is scheduled for end
of life at the end of this month and 23.04 is current.
I have the JetsonNano 2GB and 4GB.
Regards
Sid.
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New subject: Fedora for Tegra / jetson nano : how good is it ?
Thanks Mario,
It shouldn't be much of an overhead to be more current than 18.04.
I haven't seen a card image for the later boards to see if they run on a
later version of Ubuntu.
Regards
Sid.
On 10/05/2023 12:41, Mario Marietto wrote:
You know the business plans of nVidia,right ? If you want recent
software and support,you should buy their new product in 2,3 years.
(in the socs world,while in the PC world every year your expensive gpu
value will be zero and even its performances). Jetson nano born in
2019,it lasts 3 years. Yes,it seems old,numerically speaking,but it is
still perfect for a lot of use cases. The task to keep it updated has
been poured on the developers and final users with a low-medium level
of experience. I've been able to upgrade ubuntu 18.04 to ubuntu
22.04,everything works good except for the GPU that can't be enabled
because it seems strictly tied to CUDA 10. They say that CUDA 11 will
not work on the Jetson nano. If I want to use it,I should buy the
Jetson orin.
On Wed, May 10, 2023 at 3:06 AM Sid Boyce <sboyce(a)blueyonder.co.uk> wrote:
On 09/05/2023 10:03, Nicolas Chauvet wrote:
> Le mar. 9 mai 2023 à 00:12, Mario Marietto
<marietto2008(a)gmail.com> a écrit :
>> Hello.
>>
>> I dont hide my interest in the installation of fedora on the
Jetson nano. I would like to understand what works and what not.
Can I have a more modern OS than Ubuntu 18.04 ? help me to
understand. Very thanks.
> I have a Jetson TX1 that shares the same SOC (tegra210). In a
headless
> server configuration it works pretty well. But in graphical, using
> accelerated graphics (with nouveau) is unpractical. Probably because
> of the lack of EMC (External Memory Controller) frequency
scaling. So
> in the Jetson TX1 case, the EMC is locked at the bootloader
frequency
> (800Mhz instead of 1600Mhz, for Nano it might be even lower).
And that
> seems to produce some graphical failure with nouveau has seen in the
> mesa bug tracker (search for tegra tags). With nouveau being
> blacklisted, the device can use llvm just fine, but then it's not
> efficient, Also there is no video hw support. and CI/CSI (for
camera)
> support (yet, but that might land at some point)...
>
> Hope this helps.
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It's a pity that they are still using 18.04 which is scheduled for
end
of life at the end of this month and 23.04 is current.
I have the JetsonNano 2GB and 4GB.
Regards
Sid.
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8:29 a.m.
First of all,they don't give support if you don't use 18.04. You should lie
if you want to be helped by nvidia. You should tell them that you are using
18.04,while you are using 20 or 22. But that's not the real problem. The
real problem is that CUDA 10 is old. CUDA 11 has had a lot of improvements.
To run the Jetson nano with CUDA 10 is very limiting. I'm going crazy to
upgrade it to 11. Because despite what they say,I feel that it can be done.
On Wed, May 10, 2023 at 2:50 PM Sid Boyce <sboyce(a)blueyonder.co.uk> wrote:
Thanks Mario,
It shouldn't be much of an overhead to be more current than 18.04.
I haven't seen a card image for the later boards to see if they run on a
later version of Ubuntu.
Regards
Sid.
On 10/05/2023 12:41, Mario Marietto wrote:
> You know the business plans of nVidia,right ? If you want recent
> software and support,you should buy their new product in 2,3 years.
> (in the socs world,while in the PC world every year your expensive gpu
> value will be zero and even its performances). Jetson nano born in
> 2019,it lasts 3 years. Yes,it seems old,numerically speaking,but it is
> still perfect for a lot of use cases. The task to keep it updated has
> been poured on the developers and final users with a low-medium level
> of experience. I've been able to upgrade ubuntu 18.04 to ubuntu
> 22.04,everything works good except for the GPU that can't be enabled
> because it seems strictly tied to CUDA 10. They say that CUDA 11 will
> not work on the Jetson nano. If I want to use it,I should buy the
> Jetson orin.
>
>
> On Wed, May 10, 2023 at 3:06 AM Sid Boyce <sboyce(a)blueyonder.co.uk>
wrote:
>
> On 09/05/2023 10:03, Nicolas Chauvet wrote:
> > Le mar. 9 mai 2023 à 00:12, Mario Marietto
> <marietto2008(a)gmail.com> a écrit :
> >> Hello.
> >>
> >> I dont hide my interest in the installation of fedora on the
> Jetson nano. I would like to understand what works and what not.
> Can I have a more modern OS than Ubuntu 18.04 ? help me to
> understand. Very thanks.
> > I have a Jetson TX1 that shares the same SOC (tegra210). In a
> headless
> > server configuration it works pretty well. But in graphical, using
> > accelerated graphics (with nouveau) is unpractical. Probably
because
> > of the lack of EMC (External Memory Controller) frequency
> scaling. So
> > in the Jetson TX1 case, the EMC is locked at the bootloader
> frequency
> > (800Mhz instead of 1600Mhz, for Nano it might be even lower).
> And that
> > seems to produce some graphical failure with nouveau has seen in
the
> > mesa bug tracker (search for tegra tags). With nouveau being
> > blacklisted, the device can use llvm just fine, but then it's not
> > efficient, Also there is no video hw support. and CI/CSI (for
> camera)
> > support (yet, but that might land at some point)...
> >
> > Hope this helps.
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> It's a pity that they are still using 18.04 which is scheduled for
> end
> of life at the end of this month and 23.04 is current.
>
> I have the JetsonNano 2GB and 4GB.
>
> Regards
>
> Sid.
>
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6:44 p.m.
I have 3 x 4GiB Jetson Nano's. I have updated the u-boot on them using the
update documentation provided, I did put the fedora build u-boot binary in
place and flashed that. I am running Fedora Server on them all. 2 of them
are running freeipa and are my local dns servers, the third I run DHCP and
some other services on, I have been very happy with them and they work
great. I am not sure what you would like to use them for so your milage
may vary. I also have one of the new Jetson Orin Nano's I have not done
much with it yet.
Dennis
On Wed, May 10, 2023 at 8:29 AM Mario Marietto <marietto2008(a)gmail.com>
wrote:
First of all,they don't give support if you don't use 18.04.
You should
lie if you want to be helped by nvidia. You should tell them that you are
using 18.04,while you are using 20 or 22. But that's not the real problem.
The real problem is that CUDA 10 is old. CUDA 11 has had a lot of
improvements. To run the Jetson nano with CUDA 10 is very limiting. I'm
going crazy to upgrade it to 11. Because despite what they say,I feel that
it can be done.
On Wed, May 10, 2023 at 2:50 PM Sid Boyce <sboyce(a)blueyonder.co.uk> wrote:
> Thanks Mario,
> It shouldn't be much of an overhead to be more current than 18.04.
> I haven't seen a card image for the later boards to see if they run on a
> later version of Ubuntu.
> Regards
> Sid.
>
> On 10/05/2023 12:41, Mario Marietto wrote:
> > You know the business plans of nVidia,right ? If you want recent
> > software and support,you should buy their new product in 2,3 years.
> > (in the socs world,while in the PC world every year your expensive gpu
> > value will be zero and even its performances). Jetson nano born in
> > 2019,it lasts 3 years. Yes,it seems old,numerically speaking,but it is
> > still perfect for a lot of use cases. The task to keep it updated has
> > been poured on the developers and final users with a low-medium level
> > of experience. I've been able to upgrade ubuntu 18.04 to ubuntu
> > 22.04,everything works good except for the GPU that can't be enabled
> > because it seems strictly tied to CUDA 10. They say that CUDA 11 will
> > not work on the Jetson nano. If I want to use it,I should buy the
> > Jetson orin.
> >
> >
> > On Wed, May 10, 2023 at 3:06 AM Sid Boyce <sboyce(a)blueyonder.co.uk>
> wrote:
> >
> > On 09/05/2023 10:03, Nicolas Chauvet wrote:
> > > Le mar. 9 mai 2023 à 00:12, Mario Marietto
> > <marietto2008(a)gmail.com> a écrit :
> > >> Hello.
> > >>
> > >> I dont hide my interest in the installation of fedora on the
> > Jetson nano. I would like to understand what works and what not.
> > Can I have a more modern OS than Ubuntu 18.04 ? help me to
> > understand. Very thanks.
> > > I have a Jetson TX1 that shares the same SOC (tegra210). In a
> > headless
> > > server configuration it works pretty well. But in graphical, using
> > > accelerated graphics (with nouveau) is unpractical. Probably
> because
> > > of the lack of EMC (External Memory Controller) frequency
> > scaling. So
> > > in the Jetson TX1 case, the EMC is locked at the bootloader
> > frequency
> > > (800Mhz instead of 1600Mhz, for Nano it might be even lower).
> > And that
> > > seems to produce some graphical failure with nouveau has seen in
> the
> > > mesa bug tracker (search for tegra tags). With nouveau being
> > > blacklisted, the device can use llvm just fine, but then it's not
> > > efficient, Also there is no video hw support. and CI/CSI (for
> > camera)
> > > support (yet, but that might land at some point)...
> > >
> > > Hope this helps.
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> >
> > It's a pity that they are still using 18.04 which is scheduled for
> > end
> > of life at the end of this month and 23.04 is current.
> >
> > I have the JetsonNano 2GB and 4GB.
> >
> > Regards
> >
> > Sid.
> >
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7:01 p.m.
Im trying to upgrade cuda 10 to 11 and try to use kernel 5.x. Which CUDA /
kernel versions are running on your nanos ?
Il ven 12 mag 2023, 01:45 Dennis Gilmore <dennis(a)ausil.us> ha scritto:
I have 3 x 4GiB Jetson Nano's. I have updated the u-boot on them
using the
update documentation provided, I did put the fedora build u-boot binary in
place and flashed that. I am running Fedora Server on them all. 2 of them
are running freeipa and are my local dns servers, the third I run DHCP and
some other services on, I have been very happy with them and they work
great. I am not sure what you would like to use them for so your milage
may vary. I also have one of the new Jetson Orin Nano's I have not done
much with it yet.
Dennis
On Wed, May 10, 2023 at 8:29 AM Mario Marietto <marietto2008(a)gmail.com>
wrote:
> First of all,they don't give support if you don't use 18.04. You should
> lie if you want to be helped by nvidia. You should tell them that you are
> using 18.04,while you are using 20 or 22. But that's not the real problem.
> The real problem is that CUDA 10 is old. CUDA 11 has had a lot of
> improvements. To run the Jetson nano with CUDA 10 is very limiting. I'm
> going crazy to upgrade it to 11. Because despite what they say,I feel that
> it can be done.
>
> On Wed, May 10, 2023 at 2:50 PM Sid Boyce <sboyce(a)blueyonder.co.uk>
> wrote:
>
>> Thanks Mario,
>> It shouldn't be much of an overhead to be more current than 18.04.
>> I haven't seen a card image for the later boards to see if they run on a
>> later version of Ubuntu.
>> Regards
>> Sid.
>>
>> On 10/05/2023 12:41, Mario Marietto wrote:
>> > You know the business plans of nVidia,right ? If you want recent
>> > software and support,you should buy their new product in 2,3 years.
>> > (in the socs world,while in the PC world every year your expensive gpu
>> > value will be zero and even its performances). Jetson nano born in
>> > 2019,it lasts 3 years. Yes,it seems old,numerically speaking,but it is
>> > still perfect for a lot of use cases. The task to keep it updated has
>> > been poured on the developers and final users with a low-medium level
>> > of experience. I've been able to upgrade ubuntu 18.04 to ubuntu
>> > 22.04,everything works good except for the GPU that can't be enabled
>> > because it seems strictly tied to CUDA 10. They say that CUDA 11 will
>> > not work on the Jetson nano. If I want to use it,I should buy the
>> > Jetson orin.
>> >
>> >
>> > On Wed, May 10, 2023 at 3:06 AM Sid Boyce <sboyce(a)blueyonder.co.uk>
>> wrote:
>> >
>> > On 09/05/2023 10:03, Nicolas Chauvet wrote:
>> > > Le mar. 9 mai 2023 à 00:12, Mario Marietto
>> > <marietto2008(a)gmail.com> a écrit :
>> > >> Hello.
>> > >>
>> > >> I dont hide my interest in the installation of fedora on the
>> > Jetson nano. I would like to understand what works and what not.
>> > Can I have a more modern OS than Ubuntu 18.04 ? help me to
>> > understand. Very thanks.
>> > > I have a Jetson TX1 that shares the same SOC (tegra210). In a
>> > headless
>> > > server configuration it works pretty well. But in graphical,
>> using
>> > > accelerated graphics (with nouveau) is unpractical. Probably
>> because
>> > > of the lack of EMC (External Memory Controller) frequency
>> > scaling. So
>> > > in the Jetson TX1 case, the EMC is locked at the bootloader
>> > frequency
>> > > (800Mhz instead of 1600Mhz, for Nano it might be even lower).
>> > And that
>> > > seems to produce some graphical failure with nouveau has seen in
>> the
>> > > mesa bug tracker (search for tegra tags). With nouveau being
>> > > blacklisted, the device can use llvm just fine, but then it's
not
>> > > efficient, Also there is no video hw support. and CI/CSI (for
>> > camera)
>> > > support (yet, but that might land at some point)...
>> > >
>> > > Hope this helps.
>> > > _______________________________________________
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>> > It's a pity that they are still using 18.04 which is scheduled for
>> > end
>> > of life at the end of this month and 23.04 is current.
>> >
>> > I have the JetsonNano 2GB and 4GB.
>> >
>> > Regards
>> >
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9:20 p.m.
I am just running the Fedora kernel, I have not tried to do anything with
Cuda
On Thu, May 11, 2023 at 7:01 PM Mario Marietto <marietto2008(a)gmail.com>
wrote:
Im trying to upgrade cuda 10 to 11 and try to use kernel 5.x. Which
CUDA /
kernel versions are running on your nanos ?
Il ven 12 mag 2023, 01:45 Dennis Gilmore <dennis(a)ausil.us> ha scritto:
> I have 3 x 4GiB Jetson Nano's. I have updated the u-boot on them using
> the update documentation provided, I did put the fedora build u-boot binary
> in place and flashed that. I am running Fedora Server on them all. 2 of
> them are running freeipa and are my local dns servers, the third I run DHCP
> and some other services on, I have been very happy with them and they work
> great. I am not sure what you would like to use them for so your milage
> may vary. I also have one of the new Jetson Orin Nano's I have not done
> much with it yet.
>
> Dennis
>
> On Wed, May 10, 2023 at 8:29 AM Mario Marietto <marietto2008(a)gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
>> First of all,they don't give support if you don't use 18.04. You should
>> lie if you want to be helped by nvidia. You should tell them that you are
>> using 18.04,while you are using 20 or 22. But that's not the real problem.
>> The real problem is that CUDA 10 is old. CUDA 11 has had a lot of
>> improvements. To run the Jetson nano with CUDA 10 is very limiting. I'm
>> going crazy to upgrade it to 11. Because despite what they say,I feel that
>> it can be done.
>>
>> On Wed, May 10, 2023 at 2:50 PM Sid Boyce <sboyce(a)blueyonder.co.uk>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Thanks Mario,
>>> It shouldn't be much of an overhead to be more current than 18.04.
>>> I haven't seen a card image for the later boards to see if they run on
>>> a
>>> later version of Ubuntu.
>>> Regards
>>> Sid.
>>>
>>> On 10/05/2023 12:41, Mario Marietto wrote:
>>> > You know the business plans of nVidia,right ? If you want recent
>>> > software and support,you should buy their new product in 2,3 years.
>>> > (in the socs world,while in the PC world every year your expensive
>>> gpu
>>> > value will be zero and even its performances). Jetson nano born in
>>> > 2019,it lasts 3 years. Yes,it seems old,numerically speaking,but it
>>> is
>>> > still perfect for a lot of use cases. The task to keep it updated has
>>> > been poured on the developers and final users with a low-medium level
>>> > of experience. I've been able to upgrade ubuntu 18.04 to ubuntu
>>> > 22.04,everything works good except for the GPU that can't be
enabled
>>> > because it seems strictly tied to CUDA 10. They say that CUDA 11 will
>>> > not work on the Jetson nano. If I want to use it,I should buy the
>>> > Jetson orin.
>>> >
>>> >
>>> > On Wed, May 10, 2023 at 3:06 AM Sid Boyce
<sboyce(a)blueyonder.co.uk>
>>> wrote:
>>> >
>>> > On 09/05/2023 10:03, Nicolas Chauvet wrote:
>>> > > Le mar. 9 mai 2023 à 00:12, Mario Marietto
>>> > <marietto2008(a)gmail.com> a écrit :
>>> > >> Hello.
>>> > >>
>>> > >> I dont hide my interest in the installation of fedora on
the
>>> > Jetson nano. I would like to understand what works and what not.
>>> > Can I have a more modern OS than Ubuntu 18.04 ? help me to
>>> > understand. Very thanks.
>>> > > I have a Jetson TX1 that shares the same SOC (tegra210). In a
>>> > headless
>>> > > server configuration it works pretty well. But in graphical,
>>> using
>>> > > accelerated graphics (with nouveau) is unpractical. Probably
>>> because
>>> > > of the lack of EMC (External Memory Controller) frequency
>>> > scaling. So
>>> > > in the Jetson TX1 case, the EMC is locked at the bootloader
>>> > frequency
>>> > > (800Mhz instead of 1600Mhz, for Nano it might be even lower).
>>> > And that
>>> > > seems to produce some graphical failure with nouveau has seen
>>> in the
>>> > > mesa bug tracker (search for tegra tags). With nouveau being
>>> > > blacklisted, the device can use llvm just fine, but then
it's
>>> not
>>> > > efficient, Also there is no video hw support. and CI/CSI (for
>>> > camera)
>>> > > support (yet, but that might land at some point)...
>>> > >
>>> > > Hope this helps.
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>>> > It's a pity that they are still using 18.04 which is scheduled
for
>>> > end
>>> > of life at the end of this month and 23.04 is current.
>>> >
>>> > I have the JetsonNano 2GB and 4GB.
>>> >
>>> > Regards
>>> >
>>> > Sid.
>>> >
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7:13 a.m.
Hi Mario,
I dont hide my interest in the installation of fedora on the Jetson
nano. I would like to understand what works and what not. Can I have a more modern OS than
Ubuntu 18.04 ? help me to understand.
The upstream support for nano is OK outside of the graphics stack.
NVIDIA is now more focused on newer generations of the hardware, being
Xavier and Orin primarily, They have effectively end of lifed pretty
much anything prior to that, the TX1 SoC which the nano is based upon
was released in 2015 so 8 years support isn't too bad IMO compared to
a lot of other vendors.
They are still upstreaming pieces of the tegra HW drivers for the t210
series where it makes sense with their work on the newer HW as a lot
of the IP blocks are related.
In terms of their userspace based on releases of Ubuntu that's pretty
out of scope from a Fedora perspective. You may be able to look at the
newer NVIDIA Jetpack 5.x releases which are designed to run on
Xavier/Orin as they're based on a 5.10 kernel and a newer L4T
userspace but I have no idea what version of Ubuntu that is, this is
the wrong forum for those questions, I'm not sure if they've actively
torn out < Xavier support there or just defocused it.
Regards,
Peter
7:29 a.m.
The Nvidia Jetson *Nano*. was announced as a development system in
mid-March 2019. Only 4 years have passed. Not 8. I'm an end user,that's how
I count. I may agree that,generally speaking, 4 years are enough,but this
is not always true. The Jetson nano is today a good product in relation to
cost / benefit ratio for a lot of users that don't need to buy the new
Jetson Orin. What I care about (and not only for me) is to enable the
graphic stack with some decent new linux distro. Nvidia supports only
Ubuntu 18,that's the end of life. I've been criticized in the ubuntu forums
for asking for help solving some technical problems with ubuntu 18. The
developers tried hard to convince me that they weren't called to help me
with a distro that went EOL. I insisted that I had to, because nVidia only
supports 18.04. So they told me that they have no relationship with nVidia
and they don't give a damn. This kind of treatment of the end user who has
made money and loves an operating system is unacceptable. I have upgraded
Ubuntu 18.04 to 22.04 on the Jetson nano. Everything works ok,but not the
graphic stack because I'm not able to install CUDA 11. The nVidia
developers say that only Orin supports it. So,should I spend more money to
buy Orin ? I don't think so. Because I think that CUDA 11 is not supported
on the Nano not 'cause insurmountable technical problems,but because of the
business plans of nvidia. Business plans that aren't compatible with my
finances. With the finances of a lot of end / hobbyist users.
On Fri, May 12, 2023 at 2:13 PM Peter Robinson <pbrobinson(a)gmail.com> wrote:
Hi Mario,
> I dont hide my interest in the installation of fedora on the Jetson
nano. I would like to understand what works and what not. Can I have a more
modern OS than Ubuntu 18.04 ? help me to understand.
The upstream support for nano is OK outside of the graphics stack.
NVIDIA is now more focused on newer generations of the hardware, being
Xavier and Orin primarily, They have effectively end of lifed pretty
much anything prior to that, the TX1 SoC which the nano is based upon
was released in 2015 so 8 years support isn't too bad IMO compared to
a lot of other vendors.
They are still upstreaming pieces of the tegra HW drivers for the t210
series where it makes sense with their work on the newer HW as a lot
of the IP blocks are related.
In terms of their userspace based on releases of Ubuntu that's pretty
out of scope from a Fedora perspective. You may be able to look at the
newer NVIDIA Jetpack 5.x releases which are designed to run on
Xavier/Orin as they're based on a 5.10 kernel and a newer L4T
userspace but I have no idea what version of Ubuntu that is, this is
the wrong forum for those questions, I'm not sure if they've actively
torn out < Xavier support there or just defocused it.
Regards,
Peter
--
Mario.
7:32 a.m.
Errata corrige :
"This kind of treatment of the end user who spent money"
On Fri, May 12, 2023 at 2:29 PM Mario Marietto <marietto2008(a)gmail.com>
wrote:
The Nvidia Jetson *Nano*. was announced as a development system in
mid-March 2019. Only 4 years have passed. Not 8. I'm an end user,that's how
I count. I may agree that,generally speaking, 4 years are enough,but this
is not always true. The Jetson nano is today a good product in relation to
cost / benefit ratio for a lot of users that don't need to buy the new
Jetson Orin. What I care about (and not only for me) is to enable the
graphic stack with some decent new linux distro. Nvidia supports only
Ubuntu 18,that's the end of life. I've been criticized in the ubuntu
forums for asking for help solving some technical problems with ubuntu 18. The
developers tried hard to convince me that they weren't called to help me
with a distro that went EOL. I insisted that I had to, because nVidia only
supports 18.04. So they told me that they have no relationship with nVidia
and they don't give a damn. This kind of treatment of the end user who has
made money and loves an operating system is unacceptable. I have upgraded
Ubuntu 18.04 to 22.04 on the Jetson nano. Everything works ok,but not the
graphic stack because I'm not able to install CUDA 11. The nVidia
developers say that only Orin supports it. So,should I spend more money to
buy Orin ? I don't think so. Because I think that CUDA 11 is not supported
on the Nano not 'cause insurmountable technical problems,but because of
the business plans of nvidia. Business plans that aren't compatible with my
finances. With the finances of a lot of end / hobbyist users.
On Fri, May 12, 2023 at 2:13 PM Peter Robinson <pbrobinson(a)gmail.com>
wrote:
> Hi Mario,
>
> > I dont hide my interest in the installation of fedora on the Jetson
> nano. I would like to understand what works and what not. Can I have a more
> modern OS than Ubuntu 18.04 ? help me to understand.
>
> The upstream support for nano is OK outside of the graphics stack.
> NVIDIA is now more focused on newer generations of the hardware, being
> Xavier and Orin primarily, They have effectively end of lifed pretty
> much anything prior to that, the TX1 SoC which the nano is based upon
> was released in 2015 so 8 years support isn't too bad IMO compared to
> a lot of other vendors.
>
> They are still upstreaming pieces of the tegra HW drivers for the t210
> series where it makes sense with their work on the newer HW as a lot
> of the IP blocks are related.
>
> In terms of their userspace based on releases of Ubuntu that's pretty
> out of scope from a Fedora perspective. You may be able to look at the
> newer NVIDIA Jetpack 5.x releases which are designed to run on
> Xavier/Orin as they're based on a 5.10 kernel and a newer L4T
> userspace but I have no idea what version of Ubuntu that is, this is
> the wrong forum for those questions, I'm not sure if they've actively
> torn out < Xavier support there or just defocused it.
>
> Regards,
> Peter
>
--
Mario.
--
Mario.
7:47 a.m.
On Fri, May 12, 2023 at 1:32 PM Mario Marietto <marietto2008(a)gmail.com> wrote:
Errata corrige :
"This kind of treatment of the end user who spent money"
You have spent money with NVIDIA not with Fedora, go and engage with
them about their support not with Fedora, Fedora has no direct
relationship with NVIDIA.
> On Fri, May 12, 2023 at 2:29 PM Mario Marietto <marietto2008(a)gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> The Nvidia Jetson Nano. was announced as a development system in mid-March 2019.
Only 4 years have passed. Not 8. I'm an end user,that's how I count. I may agree
that,generally speaking, 4 years are enough,but this is not always true. The Jetson nano
is today a good product in relation to cost / benefit ratio for a lot of users that
don't need to buy the new Jetson Orin. What I care about (and not only for me) is to
enable the graphic stack with some decent new linux distro. Nvidia supports only Ubuntu
18,that's the end of life. I've been criticized in the ubuntu forums for asking
for help solving some technical problems with ubuntu 18. The developers tried hard to
convince me that they weren't called to help me with a distro that went EOL. I
insisted that I had to, because nVidia only supports 18.04. So they told me that they have
no relationship with nVidia and they don't give a damn. This kind of treatment of the
end user who has made money and loves an operating system is unacceptable. I have upgraded
Ubuntu 18.04 to 22.04 on the Jetson nano. Everything works ok,but not the graphic stack
because I'm not able to install CUDA 11. The nVidia developers say that only Orin
supports it. So,should I spend more money to buy Orin ? I don't think so. Because I
think that CUDA 11 is not supported on the Nano not 'cause insurmountable technical
problems,but because of the business plans of nvidia. Business plans that aren't
compatible with my finances. With the finances of a lot of end / hobbyist users.
>>
>> On Fri, May 12, 2023 at 2:13 PM Peter Robinson <pbrobinson(a)gmail.com>
wrote:
>>>
>>> Hi Mario,
>>>
>>> > I dont hide my interest in the installation of fedora on the Jetson
nano. I would like to understand what works and what not. Can I have a more modern OS than
Ubuntu 18.04 ? help me to understand.
>>>
>>> The upstream support for nano is OK outside of the graphics stack.
>>> NVIDIA is now more focused on newer generations of the hardware, being
>>> Xavier and Orin primarily, They have effectively end of lifed pretty
>>> much anything prior to that, the TX1 SoC which the nano is based upon
>>> was released in 2015 so 8 years support isn't too bad IMO compared to
>>> a lot of other vendors.
>>>
>>> They are still upstreaming pieces of the tegra HW drivers for the t210
>>> series where it makes sense with their work on the newer HW as a lot
>>> of the IP blocks are related.
>>>
>>> In terms of their userspace based on releases of Ubuntu that's pretty
>>> out of scope from a Fedora perspective. You may be able to look at the
>>> newer NVIDIA Jetpack 5.x releases which are designed to run on
>>> Xavier/Orin as they're based on a 5.10 kernel and a newer L4T
>>> userspace but I have no idea what version of Ubuntu that is, this is
>>> the wrong forum for those questions, I'm not sure if they've
actively
>>> torn out < Xavier support there or just defocused it.
>>>
>>> Regards,
>>> Peter
>>
>>
>>
>> --
>> Mario.
>
>
>
> --
> Mario.
7:17 a.m.
I still have the old "Samsung / Google Nexus 10" tablet. I don't like
Android. Any help to install Fedora instead of Android on this device is
appreciated. Thanks.
On Fri, May 12, 2023 at 2:48 PM Peter Robinson <pbrobinson(a)gmail.com> wrote:
On Fri, May 12, 2023 at 1:32 PM Mario Marietto
<marietto2008(a)gmail.com>
wrote:
>
> Errata corrige :
>
> "This kind of treatment of the end user who spent money"
You have spent money with NVIDIA not with Fedora, go and engage with
them about their support not with Fedora, Fedora has no direct
relationship with NVIDIA.
> On Fri, May 12, 2023 at 2:29 PM Mario Marietto <marietto2008(a)gmail.com>
wrote:
>>
>> The Nvidia Jetson Nano. was announced as a development system in
mid-March 2019. Only 4 years have passed. Not 8. I'm an end user,that's how
I count. I may agree that,generally speaking, 4 years are enough,but this
is not always true. The Jetson nano is today a good product in relation to
cost / benefit ratio for a lot of users that don't need to buy the new
Jetson Orin. What I care about (and not only for me) is to enable the
graphic stack with some decent new linux distro. Nvidia supports only
Ubuntu 18,that's the end of life. I've been criticized in the ubuntu forums
for asking for help solving some technical problems with ubuntu 18. The
developers tried hard to convince me that they weren't called to help me
with a distro that went EOL. I insisted that I had to, because nVidia only
supports 18.04. So they told me that they have no relationship with nVidia
and they don't give a damn. This kind of treatment of the end user who has
made money and loves an operating system is unacceptable. I have upgraded
Ubuntu 18.04 to 22.04 on the Jetson nano. Everything works ok,but not the
graphic stack because I'm not able to install CUDA 11. The nVidia
developers say that only Orin supports it. So,should I spend more money to
buy Orin ? I don't think so. Because I think that CUDA 11 is not supported
on the Nano not 'cause insurmountable technical problems,but because of the
business plans of nvidia. Business plans that aren't compatible with my
finances. With the finances of a lot of end / hobbyist users.
>>
>> On Fri, May 12, 2023 at 2:13 PM Peter Robinson <pbrobinson(a)gmail.com>
wrote:
>>>
>>> Hi Mario,
>>>
>>> > I dont hide my interest in the installation of fedora on the Jetson
nano. I would like to understand what works and what not. Can I have a more
modern OS than Ubuntu 18.04 ? help me to understand.
>>>
>>> The upstream support for nano is OK outside of the graphics stack.
>>> NVIDIA is now more focused on newer generations of the hardware, being
>>> Xavier and Orin primarily, They have effectively end of lifed pretty
>>> much anything prior to that, the TX1 SoC which the nano is based upon
>>> was released in 2015 so 8 years support isn't too bad IMO compared to
>>> a lot of other vendors.
>>>
>>> They are still upstreaming pieces of the tegra HW drivers for the t210
>>> series where it makes sense with their work on the newer HW as a lot
>>> of the IP blocks are related.
>>>
>>> In terms of their userspace based on releases of Ubuntu that's pretty
>>> out of scope from a Fedora perspective. You may be able to look at the
>>> newer NVIDIA Jetpack 5.x releases which are designed to run on
>>> Xavier/Orin as they're based on a 5.10 kernel and a newer L4T
>>> userspace but I have no idea what version of Ubuntu that is, this is
>>> the wrong forum for those questions, I'm not sure if they've
actively
>>> torn out < Xavier support there or just defocused it.
>>>
>>> Regards,
>>> Peter
>>
>>
>>
>> --
>> Mario.
>
>
>
> --
> Mario.
--
Mario.
9:56 a.m.
Mario,
Firstly probably best to start a new topic thread
On Sat, 13 May 2023, 13:18 Mario Marietto, <marietto2008(a)gmail.com> wrote:
I still have the old "Samsung / Google Nexus 10" tablet. I
don't like
Android. Any help to install Fedora instead of Android on this device is
appreciated. Thanks.
It's an exynos 5 series chip, they were never particularly well supported
upstream, it's also 32 bit which Fedora ended support of with F-36.
I suspect start with a lineage OS release and you can probably use some of
their process to get Fedora onto it but you'll need your own kernel too.
Peter
On Fri, May 12, 2023 at 2:48 PM Peter Robinson <pbrobinson(a)gmail.com> wrote:
> On Fri, May 12, 2023 at 1:32 PM Mario Marietto <marietto2008(a)gmail.com>
> wrote:
> >
> > Errata corrige :
> >
> > "This kind of treatment of the end user who spent money"
>
> You have spent money with NVIDIA not with Fedora, go and engage with
> them about their support not with Fedora, Fedora has no direct
> relationship with NVIDIA.
>
> > On Fri, May 12, 2023 at 2:29 PM Mario Marietto <marietto2008(a)gmail.com>
> wrote:
> >>
> >> The Nvidia Jetson Nano. was announced as a development system in
> mid-March 2019. Only 4 years have passed. Not 8. I'm an end user,that's how
> I count. I may agree that,generally speaking, 4 years are enough,but this
> is not always true. The Jetson nano is today a good product in relation to
> cost / benefit ratio for a lot of users that don't need to buy the new
> Jetson Orin. What I care about (and not only for me) is to enable the
> graphic stack with some decent new linux distro. Nvidia supports only
> Ubuntu 18,that's the end of life. I've been criticized in the ubuntu forums
> for asking for help solving some technical problems with ubuntu 18. The
> developers tried hard to convince me that they weren't called to help me
> with a distro that went EOL. I insisted that I had to, because nVidia only
> supports 18.04. So they told me that they have no relationship with nVidia
> and they don't give a damn. This kind of treatment of the end user who has
> made money and loves an operating system is unacceptable. I have upgraded
> Ubuntu 18.04 to 22.04 on the Jetson nano. Everything works ok,but not the
> graphic stack because I'm not able to install CUDA 11. The nVidia
> developers say that only Orin supports it. So,should I spend more money to
> buy Orin ? I don't think so. Because I think that CUDA 11 is not supported
> on the Nano not 'cause insurmountable technical problems,but because of the
> business plans of nvidia. Business plans that aren't compatible with my
> finances. With the finances of a lot of end / hobbyist users.
> >>
> >> On Fri, May 12, 2023 at 2:13 PM Peter Robinson <pbrobinson(a)gmail.com>
> wrote:
> >>>
> >>> Hi Mario,
> >>>
> >>> > I dont hide my interest in the installation of fedora on the
Jetson
> nano. I would like to understand what works and what not. Can I have a more
> modern OS than Ubuntu 18.04 ? help me to understand.
> >>>
> >>> The upstream support for nano is OK outside of the graphics stack.
> >>> NVIDIA is now more focused on newer generations of the hardware, being
> >>> Xavier and Orin primarily, They have effectively end of lifed pretty
> >>> much anything prior to that, the TX1 SoC which the nano is based upon
> >>> was released in 2015 so 8 years support isn't too bad IMO compared
to
> >>> a lot of other vendors.
> >>>
> >>> They are still upstreaming pieces of the tegra HW drivers for the t210
> >>> series where it makes sense with their work on the newer HW as a lot
> >>> of the IP blocks are related.
> >>>
> >>> In terms of their userspace based on releases of Ubuntu that's
pretty
> >>> out of scope from a Fedora perspective. You may be able to look at the
> >>> newer NVIDIA Jetpack 5.x releases which are designed to run on
> >>> Xavier/Orin as they're based on a 5.10 kernel and a newer L4T
> >>> userspace but I have no idea what version of Ubuntu that is, this is
> >>> the wrong forum for those questions, I'm not sure if they've
actively
> >>> torn out < Xavier support there or just defocused it.
> >>>
> >>> Regards,
> >>> Peter
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> --
> >> Mario.
> >
> >
> >
> > --
> > Mario.
>
--
Mario.
3:32 p.m.
Le ven. 12 mai 2023 à 14:31, Mario Marietto <marietto2008(a)gmail.com> a écrit :
The Nvidia Jetson Nano. was announced as a development system in mid-March 2019. Only 4
years have passed. Not 8. I'm an end user,that's how I count. I may agree
that,generally .
I've even requested that nvidia to better support upstream on tegra210
(nano) on this thread
https://forums.developer.nvidia.com/t/efi-support-for-jetson-tx1-and-runn...
Maybe if more interested nano end-users would come with this concern
on their forum, it would make them change this behavior.
I'm more into thinking that nvidia uses this lack of upstream support
to force EOL on these devices... So that's a kind of vendor locking.
But upstream concern on jetson forum isn't that common for some reason...
10:32 a.m.
On Sat, May 13, 2023 at 9:32 PM Nicolas Chauvet <kwizart(a)gmail.com> wrote:
Le ven. 12 mai 2023 à 14:31, Mario Marietto <marietto2008(a)gmail.com> a écrit :
>
> The Nvidia Jetson Nano. was announced as a development system in mid-March 2019.
Only 4 years have passed. Not 8. I'm an end user,that's how I count. I may agree
that,generally .
I've even requested that nvidia to better support upstream on tegra210
(nano) on this thread
https://forums.developer.nvidia.com/t/efi-support-for-jetson-tx1-and-runn...
Maybe if more interested nano end-users would come with this concern
on their forum, it would make them change this behavior.
I'm more into thinking that nvidia uses this lack of upstream support
to force EOL on these devices... So that's a kind of vendor locking.
But upstream concern on jetson forum isn't that common for some reason...
They have improved a LOT with their upstream work but they view the
SoC that the nano is based upon as now basically EOL so it's more if
the work also aligns with the newer SoCs they're focused on. The newer
Jetpack releases use much newer kernels with a lot more things that
are upstream but the 5.x and later releases only support Xavier/Orin.
10:42 a.m.
I would like to know why a third party developers / community members don't
have taken more seriously the tegra 210 platform to improve it when it has
become old. I don't see a really good process in the implementation of the
kernel 5.x on the Jetson nano. I don't see any project to enable CUDA 11 or
12. I see only some early in development projects that can't be used
really. I don't like when the big companies push us to waste the old but
still good socs that we bought with our hard earned money. They care only
about their business plans,not to our desires or to help us to save money.
So,now I'm trying by myself to enable at least CUDA 11 on the Jetson nano.
And maybe I found how to do this. What is the role of the community? has
always been to fork projects that are abandoned by big companies in order
to be able to continue them because they are still considered good. For the
jetson nano I don't see a valid project that helps us to keep it alive.
On Sun, May 14, 2023 at 5:32 PM Peter Robinson <pbrobinson(a)gmail.com> wrote:
On Sat, May 13, 2023 at 9:32 PM Nicolas Chauvet
<kwizart(a)gmail.com> wrote:
>
> Le ven. 12 mai 2023 à 14:31, Mario Marietto <marietto2008(a)gmail.com> a
écrit :
> >
> > The Nvidia Jetson Nano. was announced as a development system in
mid-March 2019. Only 4 years have passed. Not 8. I'm an end user,that's how
I count. I may agree that,generally .
>
> I've even requested that nvidia to better support upstream on tegra210
> (nano) on this thread
>
https://forums.developer.nvidia.com/t/efi-support-for-jetson-tx1-and-runn...
>
> Maybe if more interested nano end-users would come with this concern
> on their forum, it would make them change this behavior.
> I'm more into thinking that nvidia uses this lack of upstream support
> to force EOL on these devices... So that's a kind of vendor locking.
> But upstream concern on jetson forum isn't that common for some reason...
They have improved a LOT with their upstream work but they view the
SoC that the nano is based upon as now basically EOL so it's more if
the work also aligns with the newer SoCs they're focused on. The newer
Jetpack releases use much newer kernels with a lot more things that
are upstream but the 5.x and later releases only support Xavier/Orin.
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