I need to replace my Juniper SSG5 access gateway. I have outgrown it. I need more VLANs, more ports, more DHCP and RA than I can get. Also I want to split fuctionality. I am looking for 3 boxes, plus one standby. I would rather buy something cheap on ebay, but could go the DIY route. I want longevity with Fedora on it (like 4 Years).
I figure that the WAN-facing box should have 2 WAN ethernets that will run things like PPPoE through ISP provided bridges and at least 3 LAN interfaces. The LAN-side boxes (2) will need 8 LAN interfaces (2 tied up in the router network).
Is there reasonably prices hardware out there configured like this with an ARM chip that will go forward beyond F18 (which I understand that F19 will not support ARMv5 of my pogoplug?). Of course a stable RH/Centos distro in the future would be great! (RHEL 7?)
Earlier here, I was pointed to the cubieboard for DIY. I would have to find a 4 and 8 port (100Mb each) ethercard that is fully VLAN/routing addressable for it. Plus case and etc.
I would like to stay around here for a while working with Fedora-arm and not have to learn something else like dd-wrt.
And for my distributed 802.11 APs perhaps RaspPI based running HostAP? Again instead of dd-wrt.
Finally I am getting pulled into the ETSI Network Function Virtualization (NFV) work (I met a couple Redhat people at the meeting this week), and it would be interesting to do some virtualized CPE funtions here over the summer.
On Thu, Apr 25, 2013 at 4:19 PM, Robert Moskowitz rgm@htt-consult.com wrote:
I need to replace my Juniper SSG5 access gateway. I have outgrown it. I need more VLANs, more ports, more DHCP and RA than I can get. Also I want to split fuctionality. I am looking for 3 boxes, plus one standby. I would rather buy something cheap on ebay, but could go the DIY route. I want longevity with Fedora on it (like 4 Years).
I figure that the WAN-facing box should have 2 WAN ethernets that will run things like PPPoE through ISP provided bridges and at least 3 LAN interfaces. The LAN-side boxes (2) will need 8 LAN interfaces (2 tied up in the router network).
I've only seen devices with up to 4 etherenet ports but they are generally 1gb.
Is there reasonably prices hardware out there configured like this with an ARM chip that will go forward beyond F18 (which I understand that F19 will not support ARMv5 of my pogoplug?). Of course a stable RH/Centos distro in the future would be great! (RHEL 7?)
Fedora will support ARMv7 going forward, there's been no statement from Red Hat about intentions with future products related to ARM and given this is a Fedora list I couldn't speculate.
Earlier here, I was pointed to the cubieboard for DIY. I would have to find a 4 and 8 port (100Mb each) ethercard that is fully VLAN/routing addressable for it. Plus case and etc.
You'd need something like the Openblocks AX3. It has up to 4 Gb ports which you could bond together and VLAN up to get 8 ports of resilient 100Mb. You don't really get devices with multiple 100Mb LAN connections now as it's generally given that most enterprise products would prefer a single gig and trunk VLANs over it and then bond that for resilient/load.
http://openblocks.plathome.com/products/ax3/
Peter
On 04/25/2013 11:50 AM, Peter Robinson wrote:
On Thu, Apr 25, 2013 at 4:19 PM, Robert Moskowitz rgm@htt-consult.com wrote:
I need to replace my Juniper SSG5 access gateway. I have outgrown it. I need more VLANs, more ports, more DHCP and RA than I can get. Also I want to split fuctionality. I am looking for 3 boxes, plus one standby. I would rather buy something cheap on ebay, but could go the DIY route. I want longevity with Fedora on it (like 4 Years).
I figure that the WAN-facing box should have 2 WAN ethernets that will run things like PPPoE through ISP provided bridges and at least 3 LAN interfaces. The LAN-side boxes (2) will need 8 LAN interfaces (2 tied up in the router network).
I've only seen devices with up to 4 etherenet ports but they are generally 1gb.
Is there reasonably prices hardware out there configured like this with an ARM chip that will go forward beyond F18 (which I understand that F19 will not support ARMv5 of my pogoplug?). Of course a stable RH/Centos distro in the future would be great! (RHEL 7?)
Fedora will support ARMv7 going forward, there's been no statement from Red Hat about intentions with future products related to ARM and given this is a Fedora list I couldn't speculate.
Earlier here, I was pointed to the cubieboard for DIY. I would have to find a 4 and 8 port (100Mb each) ethercard that is fully VLAN/routing addressable for it. Plus case and etc.
You'd need something like the Openblocks AX3. It has up to 4 Gb ports which you could bond together and VLAN up to get 8 ports of resilient 100Mb. You don't really get devices with multiple 100Mb LAN connections now as it's generally given that most enterprise products would prefer a single gig and trunk VLANs over it and then bond that for resilient/load.
Impressive. But it says only available in Japan :( I wonder what the US$ cost is? Perhaps some of my Japanese collagues could get me some?
hmmm. I simple Gig switch that doesn't trash VLAN tags could connect the three, leaving 3 ports each for the 'downstream' units. Thing is my HP2650 only has 2 gig ports, so I would need to ask my HP friends what switch to get.
On 04/25/2013 12:46 PM, Robert Moskowitz wrote:
On 04/25/2013 11:50 AM, Peter Robinson wrote:
On Thu, Apr 25, 2013 at 4:19 PM, Robert Moskowitz rgm@htt-consult.com wrote:
I need to replace my Juniper SSG5 access gateway. I have outgrown it. I need more VLANs, more ports, more DHCP and RA than I can get. Also I want to split fuctionality. I am looking for 3 boxes, plus one standby. I would rather buy something cheap on ebay, but could go the DIY route. I want longevity with Fedora on it (like 4 Years).
I figure that the WAN-facing box should have 2 WAN ethernets that will run things like PPPoE through ISP provided bridges and at least 3 LAN interfaces. The LAN-side boxes (2) will need 8 LAN interfaces (2 tied up in the router network).
I've only seen devices with up to 4 etherenet ports but they are generally 1gb.
Is there reasonably prices hardware out there configured like this with an ARM chip that will go forward beyond F18 (which I understand that F19 will not support ARMv5 of my pogoplug?). Of course a stable RH/Centos distro in the future would be great! (RHEL 7?)
Fedora will support ARMv7 going forward, there's been no statement from Red Hat about intentions with future products related to ARM and given this is a Fedora list I couldn't speculate.
Earlier here, I was pointed to the cubieboard for DIY. I would have to find a 4 and 8 port (100Mb each) ethercard that is fully VLAN/routing addressable for it. Plus case and etc.
You'd need something like the Openblocks AX3. It has up to 4 Gb ports which you could bond together and VLAN up to get 8 ports of resilient 100Mb. You don't really get devices with multiple 100Mb LAN connections now as it's generally given that most enterprise products would prefer a single gig and trunk VLANs over it and then bond that for resilient/load.
Impressive. But it says only available in Japan :( I wonder what the US$ cost is? Perhaps some of my Japanese collagues could get me some?
At http://us.generation-nt.com/plathome-openblocks-discounted-debian-member-flo...
I am seeing a price of $450. Quite out of my reach. :(
hmmm. I simple Gig switch that doesn't trash VLAN tags could connect the three, leaving 3 ports each for the 'downstream' units. Thing is my HP2650 only has 2 gig ports, so I would need to ask my HP friends what switch to get.
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On 04/25/2013 11:19 AM, Robert Moskowitz wrote:
I need to replace my Juniper SSG5 access gateway. I have outgrown it. I need more VLANs, more ports, more DHCP and RA than I can get. Also I want to split fuctionality. I am looking for 3 boxes, plus one standby. I would rather buy something cheap on ebay, but could go the DIY route. I want longevity with Fedora on it (like 4 Years).
I figure that the WAN-facing box should have 2 WAN ethernets that will run things like PPPoE through ISP provided bridges and at least 3 LAN interfaces. The LAN-side boxes (2) will need 8 LAN interfaces (2 tied up in the router network).
The OpenBlocks product doesn't meet, but at least is the closest I've seen to approaching your requirements.
http://openblocks.plathome.com/products/ax3/
I'm not sure if anyone in the Fedora community currently has one of these working though.
I notice it has miniPCIe, it might be hokie and won't fit in the case, but there are adapter boards which you could then pair with a x1 (single lane) multiport PCIe network card.
http://www.hwtools.net/Adapter/PM2.html
On Thu, Apr 25, 2013 at 12:07 PM, Scott Sullivan scott@ss.org wrote:
I'm not sure if anyone in the Fedora community currently has one of these working though.
I have an AX3 mostly working using a hacked-up kernel. I still don't have USB ports working on it, but I know Peter Robinson is going to look at mvebu support in the kernel shortly, so I'm very optimistic that things are moving in the right direction.
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