The log is attached. -- Marek Mahut https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/SIGs/Astronomy/ Fedora Project http://www.jamendo.com/ 17:25 marek hey Telimektar 17:26 Telimektar hi marek 17:27 Telimektar you'r a little early :) 17:28 marek ;) you too 17:29 Telimektar i hope we won't be alone :'( 17:31 marek me too 17:48 GeroldKa_aw < [n=GeroldKa(a)p5B2CBCEA.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] quits ["Verlassend"] 17:49 GeroldKa > [n=GeroldKa@fedora/geroldka] joins #fedora-meeting 17:55 danishka_ > [n=danishka(a)124.43.55.148] joins #fedora-meeting 17:57 hanthana < [n=danishka(a)124.43.54.173] quits [Read error: 113 (No route to host)] 17:59 marek astronomy SIG around? 18:00 Telimektar plop :) 18:02 marek anyone else around? 18:02 marek got a message from Sergio that he can't attend 18:04 Telimektar ok 18:04 Telimektar shall we begin ? 18:04 Telimektar (a 2-person meeting :)) 18:05 marek ok 18:06 marek changed the topic of #fedora-meeting to: Fedora Astronomy SIG | Introduction. 18:06 marek so, who's around? 18:06 * marek Marek Mahut 18:06 *Telimektar Micha"el Ughetto 18:07 marek changed the topic of #fedora-meeting to: Fedora Astronomy SIG | Review of tasks from last meeting. 18:08 marek so, what's our overall progress? 18:08 Telimektar what were they ? 18:08 marek nothing I guess, because we were only two at the meeting :) 18:08 marek Serio sent me this mail: 18:08 marek <paste> 18:08 marek * I have packaged pyfits, a python interface to fits. This package is 18:08 marek required by pyraf 18:08 marek * I have packaged pyraf also, but, as iraf isn't in fedora, it can be 18:08 marek included for the moment 18:08 marek * I'm giving eso-midas a second try. I have a package that seems to 18:08 marek work but needs some testing. 18:08 marek </paste> 18:08 marek this is the progress report from him 18:08 marek from my side 18:09 marek I was heavily working on gnuradio even with upstream 18:09 marek and it should be quite stable 18:09 marek we need to start working on last packages and think about preparing the kickstart file 18:10 Telimektar I'm still fighting with xvarstar, exams will start again soon, so it won't be fast 18:10 marek this will come in next two month +/- 18:10 Telimektar yes 18:10 Telimektar abous thes kickstart file 18:10 marek Telimektar: np, did you resolve the problem that it's not building under f8? 18:10 Telimektar Telimektar: still on it 18:10 marek :) 18:10 marek ok 18:10 Telimektar marek*: it was not that easy 18:11 Telimektar for the ks, we maybe should ask for a Group package 18:11 danishka_ | changes nick to hanthana 18:11 marek Telimektar: I know :) 18:11 marek Telimektar: not sure if it will be approved 18:11 marek last time they told us no-no. 18:11 marek but it's a good try 18:11 marek Telimektar: we should create a wiki page with a TODO list 18:12 Telimektar yes, my plan's was a roadmap page with link to all subprojects 18:12 marek ok, let's move for the google question. 18:12 marek changed the topic of #fedora-meeting to: Fedora Astronomy SIG | What if the astronomy SIG has a summer intern ? 18:12 marek do we know something about this? 18:13 marek I don't even know if the application for this are still open 18:13 Telimektar nothing it has juste been a question on the ml 18:13 marek "We'll begin accepting applications from open source mentoring organizations on Monday, March 3, 2008; we'll stop accepting organization applications on Wednesday, March 12th." 18:13 Telimektar even if the student is not provided by gsoc, we could perhaps offer this type of function 18:13 marek ok, so this will go for the next year tasks :) 18:14 marek Telimektar: what do you mean by this typo of function? 18:14 Telimektar we could define some big tasks that could be assigned to a temporary dev, a student for example 18:15 Telimektar but it will come later in the meeting i guess 18:15 marek Telimektar: but who will pay him? 18:15 Telimektar marek: in the mail there was no question of money 18:16 marek well, the Google Summer of Code is that the student work the summer and he gets 2000$ from google 18:16 marek Telimektar: if not it's a standard volenteer that do it in the free time 18:16 Telimektar ok 18:16 marek the gsoc guys get paid for the summer and work heavily on the projects 18:17 Telimektar we should ask Jeff about his proposition 18:17 marek Telimektar: indeed 18:17 marek but the applications are closed for this summer already, let's try our luck next time 18:17 Telimektar Fedora 11 so :p 18:17 marek changed the topic of #fedora-meeting to: Fedora Astronomy SIG | Forking IRAF and clean it of the closed source? 18:17 marek ;) 18:17 marek yup 18:17 Telimektar 12* 18:17 marek this is a topic from Sergio 18:18 marek <paste> 18:18 marek And finally, can fedora-astronomy be involved in branching iraf? is it 18:18 marek feasible? Iraf it's used by great part of the astronomical community 18:18 marek and would be a I killer application. Could you rise the question in 18:18 marek the meeting? 18:18 marek </paste> 18:18 marek this is a good proposition but will involve a lot of work 18:18 Telimektar a new item for the todo list 18:18 Telimektar it also involves getting in contact with the iraf community 18:19 marek yes 18:19 marek we should discuss it on the mailing list first 18:19 Telimektar yes 18:19 marek changed the topic of #fedora-meeting to: Fedora Astronomy SIG | Free discussion, mind storming 18:19 marek ok, all other business 18:19 Telimektar you've talked about skylive.it 18:20 marek yes, this is an interesting project 18:20 Telimektar and python module that it needs 18:20 marek you can take photos from scopes over the globe 18:20 marek Telimektar: it needs about 10 python modules that are not in fedora yet 18:20 marek I don't have the list yet, but it should be somewhere on their web 18:20 Telimektar ok, i didn't found soure on their website 18:20 Telimektar source* 18:20 marek or even find it from code 18:22 marek http://download.astronomix.org/skylive/SkyLiveNG-0.1b.tgz 18:22 marek here is it 18:22 Telimektar ok thanks, i'll take aloot on it and make a summary of needs on the ml 18:22 Telimektar a look * 18:22 marek Telimektar: thank you 18:23 marek next item, is getting the packages in EPEL as well 18:23 Telimektar why not 18:24 marek I would like to distribute the Fedora Astronomy spin on a usb stick 18:24 marek people would be able to order it for small price 18:24 marek like 3 euros with the post 18:25 Telimektar mhm, why not 18:25 marek Telimektar: did you saw the persistance feature? 18:25 Telimektar i'm sure som magazines can be interested in this too 18:25 Telimektar marek: i've read a little about it 18:25 marek Telimektar: it's very nice 18:25 marek that way, you can keep your data from observation on the key itself 18:26 Telimektar how do you want to sell the usb stick? 18:28 marek I thought of a web form, something like free media program 18:28 Telimektar ok 18:29 marek I'll try to save some money and get about 300 free for local observatory etc... 18:29 marek and if we are really good, maybe Red Hat will be willing to pay for it too :) 18:29 spoleeba > [n=one@fedora/Jef] joins #fedora-meeting 18:29 marek heyah spoleeba :) 18:29 Telimektar from your own pocket ? 18:30 marek Telimektar: yes. 18:30 spoleeba too many meetings....too little time 18:30 rsc < [n=robert@fedora/rsc] quits [Remote closed the connection] 18:30 marek spoleeba: ;) welcome 18:30 Telimektar 300 free usb sticks it's a lot for a begin 18:30 Telimektar hi spoleeba 18:31 marek Telimektar: well, these are only for local observatory I'm planning 18:31 marek and local institutions 18:31 Telimektar I think i can get some money for such a distributing money in my university 18:31 Telimektar -money 18:32 marek Telimektar: you think your university would be interested in this? 18:32 Telimektar I think i can get some money for such a distributing, from my university 18:32 Telimektar corrected:p 18:32 marek cool 18:33 marek well, we will see later 18:33 Telimektar marek: yeah , i was the president of a physics student association and i know they can be interested by such things 18:33 Telimektar yes 18:33 marek first let's do a spin that kicks ass :) 18:33 Telimektar marek: +1 18:33 marek Telimektar: cool :) 18:33 rsc > [n=robert(a)linuxnetz.de] joins #fedora-meeting 18:33 marek I'll be taking some days off from my work on work on this spin 18:33 marek because my work consumes all my time 18:34 Telimektar we also must finalize the astronomy-menus 18:34 spoleeba marek, so you are really close to putting a spin together? 18:34 marek Telimektar: yup, I had a showstopper on this 18:34 marek spoleeba: kind of, in next two months we can start doing the initial kickstart file 18:35 marek Telimektar: but I've found a way how to create this menu 18:35 spoleeba marek, make sure you look at the guidance from the new Spins SIG 18:35 marek spoleeba: yes, I know it 18:35 Telimektar marek: can't we base it one the games-menus rpm ? 18:35 marek Telimektar: no, the games menus are using standard GNOME categories 18:36 Telimektar ok 18:36 marek games have sub-cats in gnome, that's no the case of other menus 18:36 marek spoleeba: we will have first only a beta kickstart file 18:36 marek spoleeba: I want to release it all little bit after Fedora 10 18:37 marek do we have date for Fedora 10 yet? 18:37 Telimektar i don't think so 18:38 marek spoleeba: do we have the final version of the spins process? 18:38 Telimektar do you have a link to this ? i do not know about it 18:39 marek I saw a proposition on wiki somewhere, but was told by the Board it's still in progress 18:39 marek https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/JefSpaleta/SpinReleaseProcessProposal 18:39 Telimektar thx 18:40 spoleeba marek, of the entire process.. i dont think so 18:41 marek spoleeba: good to have you on the project, you can review it before we propose it to the board itself 18:41 spoleeba marek, but i think the guidance as to what is/is not allowed is mostly there 18:44 marek spoleeba: do you the link to the guidance? 18:45 spoleeba no... let me find it 18:46 spoleeba there's a wiki re-org going on as well...which impact things 18:47 spoleeba http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/SIGs/Spins/CommunitySpinGuidelines 18:48 marek /!\ Fixing packages or applications on the Spin is not allowed. A fix goes upstream. 18:49 marek this mean fix goes to Fedora (upstream here?) 18:49 marek ? 18:52 spoleeba marek, i think it means... not making changes in the Spins kickstart file 18:53 spoleeba that should go in a package...and submitted upstream 18:53 marek spoleeba: ok, understood 18:53 marek anything else we want to discuss? 18:53 spoleeba the idea being...don't screw with things like default config settings via kickstart script action..even though you can 18:54 Telimektar it's ok for me 18:54 Telimektar what are the tasks assignment for now on ? 18:54 marek spoleeba: we were thinking about a different wallpaper 18:55 spoleeba kickstarts are very flexible...and to keep all or spins consistent..we have to refrain from doing some things that kickstart can easily do 18:55 marek Telimektar: I think, from now on, we should create a TODO list wiki page, with the name of the person working on it and final date 18:56 marek spoleeba: yup, I see 18:56 spoleeba marek, get it packaged as a package so anyone else can use it 18:56 spoleeba marek, i think theming differences are allowed..i think games does it already 18:56 marek spoleeba: it would be part of the wallpaper package, but we will have to mess with the default config to set it 18:56 marek spoleeba: ok 18:58 marek spoleeba, Telimektar any other business you would like to raise? 18:58 giallu > [n=giallu(a)81-174-9-190.dynamic.ngi.it] joins #fedora-meeting 18:58 spoleeba marek, i dont think so 18:59 Telimektar ok for me 18:59 marek ok closing this meeting 18:59 marek that you both for coming 18:59 marek changed the topic of #fedora-meeting to: Channel is used by various Fedora groups and committees for their regular meetings | Note that meetings often get logged | For questions about using Fedora please ask in #fedora | See http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/FedoraMeetingChannel for meeting schedule 18:59 Telimektar thanks all, see you on the list ! 19:00 marek see you!