On 08/10/2014 05:02 AM, Stef Walter wrote:
On 09.08.2014 01:04, Colin Walters wrote:
> On Fri, Aug 8, 2014, at 11:57 AM, Stef Walter wrote:
>> So to summarize this... Do you know of anyone who's tried this stuff out
>> with Cockpit? Interested in the results in any case, and open to patches
>> that help make it work.
> I don't offhand. One way to approach this might be to mount the host
> file system at /sysroot or something in the container. The cockpit
> would have to conditionalize itself and say: Am I in a container?
Is there a standard way to do this on Linux?
We are working to add an environment
variable that says container=docker
in all Fedora/RHEL images. We are hoping to
get this ability upstream soon. If your question was about /sysroot for
the host, I guess the closest thing to a standard is anaconda and
libguesfs. But those two do not agree. I think someone in your group
suggested /host.
> Look
> at /sysroot/proc.
So I guess you're mostly talking about cockpit-agent here, although
cockpit-ws would also need to some how trick PAM into looking at the
/sysroot/etc/pam.d path ... But I guess that could be via a symlink.
I guess that also when we connect to such a system via ssh, we would
have to run the cockpit-agent command at a different path? What would
that path be?
> Though that might get untenable for things like systemd APIs that are
> basically just wrappers around looking at files in /run.
We would probably have to symlink /run to /sysroot/run
In fact the only interesting parts of the cockpit container file system
would be /usr/libexec/cockpit-* and /usr/share/cockpit.
Well stuff in /usr/lib64 is
also probably used and any parts of
coreutils you take use. Potentially some configuration
you might want shipped within a container.
> Maybe flip it around and try to have cockpit-in-container have
its data
> all isolated in /usr/lib/cockpit (including the binaries).
>
> On the other hand - if we made Cockpit work in this pattern, I'd say it
> would work for any management agent / config system / etc.
Right. So how does this work in real life (for example with Docker). Is
there a way to just remount / with a bind mount into the container at /
and then remount the container file system in an alternate place?
Stef
You could mount / at / theoretically, but I believe as soon as you did
this your app would loose its shared libraries and could start acting
strange.
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