2015-11-18 16:26 GMT+01:00 Jan Kurik <jkurik@redhat.com>:

Hi Council and Ambassadors,

I was pointed by several people to the fact that FAmSCo is (or should
be) an inactive committee and I was questioned why we are organizing
elections for this committee.

As I understand the situation, there is an aim to replace FAmSCo by
FOSCo & Council. However the current FAmSCo is securing some "level of
service" for Ambassadors, which is not yet covered by any other
group/team/governance body within the Fedora community. As such, I was
explicitly ask by Ambassadors to organize the elections for FAmSCo
team as well, to make sure FAmSCo will operate till the time we have a
full replacement for it.

However, it seems like we do not have a full agreement on this topic
[1]. I would like to have a discussion here, to come up with a common
agreement whether we support the idea of having FAmSCo operational for
now or we have other solution.

[1] https://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-meeting-2/2015-11-17/fedora-meeting-2.2015-11-17-17.03.log.html
- 17:23:27

Regards,
Jan

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Thank you Jan for this open discussion, I'm adding here some more informations.

First of all FAmSCo is not dead and never has been officially dismissed, but FAmSCo decided months ago to hand all its repsonibilities over to FOSCo, which was planned as an even bigger committee, and which should have included also the Ambassador's activities. Therefor we reduced the activity and after some meetings without reaching a quorum FAmSCo decided to act only through the Trac until new elections would happen or FOSCo will start its activity.

Many thing happened in the meanwhile and we are going towards a new and hopefully better budgeting process (thanks to all who worked on it and who are discussing it), but as you said this is not the only responsibility FAmSCo actually has. Unfortunately FAmSCo missed some of its deadlines, there is for example the EMEA FAD planning, release parties, F23 media and other stuff (which in the end happened partially but not in a coordinated way as before).

That's why I would welcome, unless we will not reach the minimum number of 7 candidates, new elections. These new memebers could give continuity to FAmSCo's activities and the big ambassadors group, on the other hand they could actively help the integration of the actual FAmSCo responsibilities into the Council, FOSCo or whatever.

Canceling the Ambassadors Steering Committee without replacing *all* its activities is not the best way if we don't want to loose some parts of the community, so IMO let's do elections and find the best solution to pass over all the stuff and try to represent _all_ regions in the body who will take over in the future the FAmSCo job.

Just my 2 cents here.

Thanks, kind regards.

Robert Mayr
(robyduck)