it seems that Thorsten cann't send directly :-(

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Von: Thorsten Leemhuis fedora@leemhuis.info An: Gerold Kassube gerold@lugd.org Kopie: Fedora-Ambassadors fedora-ambassadors-list@redhat.com, Discussions on expanding the Fedora user base fedora-marketing-list@redhat.com Betreff: Re: Meeting minutes of the FAD Datum: Sat, 09 Dec 2006 21:39:27 +0100

Hi All!

Gerold Kassube schrieb:

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the last weekend, we had our first FAD (== Fedora Ambassador Meeting) in EMEA. We had nice and productive days for the Fedora Ambassador Project and we proudly present to you what we have done and dicussed.

All information which we like to announce can be found at http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/FAD/PassedFADs

I was invited hearty to the FAD, but I could not visit it due to private matters. But Gerold asked me to look trough the posted docs and give a short feedback to the list, so here I am:

"Ambassadors from Red Hat should show more commitment to the Fedora ambassadors project" -> I agree mostly -- especially in the beginning and in countries/areas where a local group of Ambassadors is not yet working properly that's needed until the baby steps are done and a group has grown up. Yeah, I know, that's often quite some work. BTW, the german ambassadors seems to be a good example where a bit of Red Hat involvement helped a lot.

"dying Fedora Weekly Reports" -- that would be sad, I liked the idea, the format and the content a lot, but I have no time to help there :-/ . Why can't we merge fedoranews.org and the weekly reports? That would be a step in the right direction. Sure, the stuff from fedoranews.org can write about nvidia, ati or 3rd party add-on repos. But most of the stuff that written there currently isn't like that and would be fine for fedoraproject.org afaics. fedoranews.org could continue with reporting the stuff that is forbidden for fedoraproject.org (as a add-on or something like that). And ahte weekly reports need to be annouced properly...

"Gerold: There should be better communication with leading departments of different projects to other ambassadors" -- Agreed, we all (Core, Extras, marketing, ambassadors, ...) don't talk enough with each other. I think we need a fedora-project mailinglist (or something like that) where we can discuss such stuff more together. Stuff like https://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-desktop-list/2006-November/msg00039.h... could be discussed there, too. At the same time need to get rid of some other lists and put some serious thoughts info a mailinglist-cleanup/reordering. Or morph fedora-maintainers into fedora-contributors and open it for all fedora-contributors.

"there should be no global vote for FAMSCo, but vote per region." -> related, not that important and just FYI: there was the plan in fedora-extras to get contributors more involved by letting them vote on important stuff and not only on a committee. But that's just a rough idea for the long term. http://www.cs.cornell.edu/w8/~andru/civs/ could be a help there if we don't want to maintain the voting mechanism ourselfs.

"Ambassadors Mailing List closed to non-ambassadors but archives opened" -- why not a readonly variant just like FAB uses -- reading the archives trough the mailman web-interface or by downloading mboxes sucks.

"Joerg: There was recently press contact demands and german ambassadors helped." -- we really should have local contacts for the press documented properly in the wiki as that quite important IMHO.

CU thl