Fwd: Gnome shell theming plus extension!
by Jef van Schendel
2010/8/4 Emily Dirsh <emily(a)fightingcrane.com>:
> Thanks Jef! I haven't contacted anyone else about it. Although I would
> love to share it with the gnome-shell team (probably the design team).
> Liam and I just threw it together last night, and it's pretty rough
> right now, so I thought I'd share it here and see if I could get it
> tested a bit more. ;) (Honestly, I could see it as the basis of a theme
> switcher/selector extension, but that's too ambitious for me atm :))
>
> I've had trouble building gnome-shell lately as well. Have you tried
> installing the gnome-shell package? I found out last night that there is
> a package for it in the repos. I'm not sure how recent it is, but it
> should be fine for theme testing.
The last time I tried was a long while back... I think I used the
package from the repos. I'm on Ubuntu right now, so I hope the
packages in the nightly PPA will work soon.
But you're right, an older version will probably be fine for theming.
I'll try that next and let you know how it goes!
> When I get a chance, I'll definitely get in touch with the gnome-shell
> team, because I also think we should help with documenting the
> gnome-shell theming process. We really need documentation on available
> selectors, and what parts of the shell they correspond with; as well as
> the non-standard css styles the shell supports. You can figure a good
> bit of it out between the included css file and plain trial and error,
> but let's only have to do that once ;)
Definitely. Most themes I've seen use a single color for half of the
shell and gradients for the other half. I thought that was the extent
of theming possibilities, but then I saw this:
http://fc05.deviantart.net/fs70/f/2010/214/3/7/GNOME_Shell___Ambiance_The...
Regardless of whether it looks good or not, it fits really really well
with Ubuntu's theme and proves that there are more possibilities. I
think that's really good news for us. :)
Jef
13 years, 8 months
Gnome shell theming plus extension!
by Emily Dirsh
At yesterdays design meeting, we talked a bit about gnome-shell theming.
I made a small gnome-shell extension to make it easier. (With the help
of my lovely bf Liam whom I "recruited" ;)) It adds a "button" to the
gnome-shell panel that reloads the theme/css file without having to
restart the Shell.
You can install it by extracting it to
~/.local/share/gnome-shell/extensions and restarting gnome-shell if it's
running.
If you don't have gnome-shell installed, there is a package for it! :D
Or you can build it from source - there are instructions on the
gnome-shell page.
Once you have the extension installed, just edit the gnome-shell.css
file and click the "Refresh theme" button on the panel to see the
changes!
gnome-shell page (with build instructions):
http://live.gnome.org/GnomeShell
gnome-shell extensions:
http://live.gnome.org/GnomeShell/Extensions
Download my extension:
http://www.fightingcrane.com/emily/fedora/Theme_Reloader_GS_Ext.tar.bz2
Emily
PS - I tested it on my own machine, but other than that, you will all
have to be test-monkeys - so let me know if anything goes wonky with the
extension! thx!
13 years, 8 months
CHASM Logo design request
by Adam Miller
Hello design team!
I just sent out an introduction yesterday but I'm rather eager to get
involved so I have accepted a ticket in the Design Team TRAC[0]
instance and have provided some rough sketches of ideas for logo/icon
for the CHASM project. I wanted to email the list in hopes to get some
feedback and opinions on how this might be improved, what people like,
don't like, and why. Many thanks!
As always: questions, comments, and snide remarks are welcome!
-AdamM
[0] https://fedorahosted.org/design-team/ticket/108
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Self Introduction
by Adam Miller
Hello design team!
My name is Adam Miller and I wanted to take a moment to introduce
myself. I have been a member of the Fedora Project for about two years
now and I'm a member of a few different aspects of the Fedora
Project[0] and would now very much like to contribute to the design
team. I have some background in cartoon illustration and some formal
teachings but nothing beyond a few college courses in drawing and
painting. I hope to be able to help with illustration needs initially,
probably mostly in the icon/logo realm, and then help with anything I
am able as time goes on and my skill set improves.
Questions, comments and snide remarks always welcome!
-AdamM
[0] https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/User:Maxamillion
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13 years, 8 months
Reminder: Design Team Meeting Today!
by Máirín Duffy
Hi folks!
This is a reminder that our weekly IRC meeting is at 19:00 UTC today
(July 27) in #fedora-design on irc.freenode.net.
On the agenda:
- F14 artwork:
- today is the deadline for the alpha. Which wallpaper mockup should
we have checked in?
- how is the feedback gathering going? Any feedback from Fedora Forum?
- Fedora branding fonts:
- Luya will be packaging Comfortaa
- When we get Comfortaa packaged we should change the usage guidelines
- Ian will talk about potentially using Comfortaa in the FUDcon logo
- Other fonts - any more feedback on Cantarell or Droid Sans?
- New Design team join page (by Michael Beckwith)
- Emily made some changes, how do folks like them?
- Any other feedback?
- When should we copy it over to the main page?
- Fedora website redesign
- Content review status (Jef)
- Tutorial list (Ian McG)
- Pending mockup changes from last week:
- move the greyscale features to the features page
- use the four f's instead of the grey feature icons on the front
page
- Other UX projects
- Live USB Creator UI https://fedorahosted.org/design-team/ticket/146
- Installer UI https://fedorahosted.org/design-team/ticket/147
- add a community feature to the slideshow front & center
- add a section 'what makes fedora different' for current linux users
of other distros
- maybe the summary slide #1, community slide #2, then 2 or 3 more
slides to show the best new features in the current release
- Robyn's design team marketing plan
Has our first interview been completed yet?
- Open floor
We'll try to keep the meeting to an hour.
If you'd like to add items to this agenda, just reply to the email.
Below is a time conversion listing for folks who participated in the
meeting time selection process:
Luya: 12 PM
Tatica: 3 PM
Martha: 3 PM
Máirín: 3 PM
Onyeibo: 8 PM
fabsh: 9 PM
wonderer: 9 PM
Martin: 9 PM
Nicu: 10 PM
Pierros: 10 PM
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13 years, 8 months
Design/Artwork wiki pages
by Emily Dirsh
Hi all,
This was discussed last week in the meeting, and since no one
volunteered, and I had a few spare minutes I took it upon myself to make
some changes to the design team wiki page. ;)
I basically added some information that was missing from the Design page
- all general information about the design team "what we do" "services
provided" etc - pretty much verbatim from the Artwork page. I just
removed some out of date links and pointed people to the ticket
tracker.
I also added a warning on the Artwork page that it is out of date, and
people should look at the Design page instead.
The Artwork page still has some information about Resources, Long term
projects, and Guidelines which may also need to be added to the Design
page. I'm just not sure which, if any, of that info is still relevant.
If we can get all relevant information moved from Artwork to Design then
we can hopefully archive the Artwork page and redirect it to the Design
page.
So, anybody with a few minutes to spare go check it out and make it
better! :D
Artwork page: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Artwork
Design page: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Design
Emily
13 years, 8 months
Re: [Design-team] Wiki page for country - web page markup and styling now available for review
by Al Thomas
----- Original Message ----
> From: Sijis Aviles <sijis(a)fedoraproject.org>
> Sent: Mon, 26 July, 2010 22:02:04
>
> 2010/7/25 Al Thomas <astavale(a)yahoo.co.uk>:
> > ----- Original Message ----
> >> From: Máirín Duffy <duffy(a)fedoraproject.org>
> >> Sent: Mon, 12 July, 2010 19:48:04
> >> On Thu, 2010-07-08 at 22:00 -0500, Matt Domsch wrote:
> >> > I built a very minimal top-level fedoracommunity.org and
> >> > www.fedoracommunity.org web page now,
> >> I did a mockup today too of how it might be improved:
> >>
>>>http://duffy.fedorapeople.org/webdesign/fedoracommunity.org/fedoracommuni...
>>>
>g
> >>
> > I was very impressed by the design and so had a go and turning it into a
>web
> > page:
> >
> > http://astavale.co.uk/fedoracommunity/
> >
> > I know the design has changed a bit since then, but the bulk of the work on
>the
> > page is done and any amendments should hopefully be fairly quick.
> >
> > The page is a fluid layout using floats and margins. It is optimized for
> > 1024x768, but will display fine at 800x480.
> > The first China link is the same as the Bangladesh link, this was in the
>mockup
> > too. Can someone please correct this.
> >
>
> Al,
>
> Wow! Great work.
>
Thanks.
> I am aware that 960.gs does have some shortcomings (multiple divs,
> fixed, odd code, etc). However, I believe the benefits outweigh the
> shortcomings of it. These are the reasons we are strongly focusing on
> using 960:
> * its a framework we can standardize across all fp.o domains
> * an excellent way to build sites quickly
> * a way communicate specs between designer and web developer
> * its proven
>
> We have tried using the 960 fluid [1] version but that has proved
> difficult to keep things inline as we'd hope.
>
> I would appreciate if you could help us, using 960, to merge your
> example with what we have. Let me know if this is something that
> interests you. I can grant you access to make that possible.
>
> Sijis
>
> [1] - http://www.designinfluences.com/fluid960gs/
>
I am more thank happy to integrate this into the Fedora websites set up. I won't
have much time to do this until a couple of weeks though.
I would first like to make sure the design is signed off before re-jigging the
styling to fit a more generic setting. The following need to be clarified:
1. It was suggested the sections should be ordered by geography (left to right)
rather than alphabetical.
2. The colouring of the in page navigation bar is different to the sections. If
colour coding is required I need some image files which have matching colours, I
will update the colour borders appropriately. Are we supporting IE6? If so then
the PNG8 should be used where transparency works for IE6.
3. There was talk of making the sections appear by clicking on the in page
navigation bar, rather than having one long page. Not sure I have time to
implement this now, but I can amend the markup to make this easier for future. I
think it is fine as is, it is a directory listing after all and a long page
seems fine to me.
4. Each item in the list in later designs only had a thin grey line top border.
I can change this if needed, although I'm happy with the way it is at the
moment. [For comparison take a look at Sijis' work at
http://www.fedoracommunity.org/template.html compared to my work at
http://astavale.co.uk/fedoracommunity/ ]
5. The text and links need to be checked. The link for one of the China sites is
the same as Bangladesh and I think some of the spelling / characters used for a
few other languages are slightly wrong. (Czech Republic and Romania were
mentioned at one point I think.)
6. I will exclude the site navigation and page heading from this, as this will
become generic later on. Although I think the page title heading is a bit too
weak,
too small and text lacking contrast with the pale blue on white. Suggest making
the banner logo wider and shorter by placing community.org to the right of
Fedora and maybe increase the colour saturation of the logo. Then the specific
page title can appear under the logo in a darker colour and large size. This
would become generalise across the fpo pages.
OK, now for the 960.gs fixed layout discussion! The markup I've done is a fluid
layout. For anyone not sure, this means that as the page gets narrower in the
web browser, the page itself gets longer to compensate. This means no horizontal
scrolling. The best way to see this effect is to hold CTRL and press number pad
plus in Firefox. This increases the font size. Keep doing this and you will see
how the page flow compensates. This is the equivalent of making the window
smaller. Go the other way by holding CTRL and pressing number pad minus. Keep
trying this as far as you can and again see how the page flow compensates. This
is the equivalent of making the window very large. To me this is the desired
layout. The web is not print. Print is static, the web flows. All the CSS specs
talk of document flow. The web is a multi-device, multi-platform, multi-browser
world and the markup and styling I've done allows for this. Although at 1024x768
pixel display it is similar to the SVG mockup, it is still good for someone
looking at it on a 800x480 smart phone browser. I do believe the techniques I
have used are generic enough to be used for the fpo redesign. This is what
interests me - using a fluid design for a reasonably large site and very popular
site like Fedora. I believe there are enough people out there on the list, etc.
who can make this work with a bit of inspiration. So, I have to say I was
surprised at your request to undo this functionality and go for a 960 pixel
fixed layout.
I still don't see how a grid system will work here, but I'll let you show some
examples. For example the section headings are quite easy to markup and style as
an in margin heading, with the CSS background image pushed into the margin
leaving the text to align with the vertical line of the page. As the image is
quite large, the content below needs to be pulled up with a negative bottom
margin. Once this is done it can be re-applied fairly simply for the rest of the
page sections. With a grid I guess the image would have to be separate to the
heading text.
As a way forward I see the need to create a lexicon of styles and markup which
can become generic for the site and reused, aiming for minimal markup for
maintainability. So a single H1 element is used for site title
(i.e.fedoracommunity.org) then a body id tag allows a selector to replace the
text with the logo. H2 element is used for the page title itself and styled
accordingly. The site navigation is simply a UL list and labelled as 'site_nav'.
Section heading within the page are marked up as H3.
Well, I'll see how things develop,
Al
13 years, 8 months
summary of my meeting with Pam Chestek yesterday
by Ian Weller
Yesterday I met with Pam Chestek, Red Hat's Senior IP Attorney, about
some of the requested and proposed changes to Fedora's trademarks.
Here's a summary of our conversation; Pam promised she'd respond with
the legal bases and answer any questions you guys might have.
Part of the meeting was attempting to understand, just for my own
personal knowledge, how the heck trademark law affects how we use and
distribute our logo. If you guys have any questions on this, feel free
to ask and Pam will answer.
I may have messed up on a few things below, so IANAL, Pam will correct
me, etc. :)
== The Fedora logo ==
One of the things I've been spending time on is changing all the little
"TM" symbols to our new font, Comfortaa. It was formerly written in
Interstate, which is a commercial font, so we wanted to change that.
From both a brand and legal perspective, both Pam and I agreed that
changing the font for "Fedora" in the logo would not be a good idea,
because it is far more likely to confuse someone who sees the Fedora
logo than impress them that we now use a free font.
== The Fedora Remix logo (secondary trademark) ==
Because the requirements for the logo permitted more than just a few
different colors, it was deemed OK to consolidate the usable color
palette into the Foundations colors.
The same from above applies to changing fonts to Comfortaa in the Remix
logo.
== The Foundations artwork ==
Since the core part of the foundations artwork is not the text, but
instead the symbol within the bubble, it is OK to change the font for
the foundation names ("Freedom", "Friends", "Features", "First") to
Comfortaa. That's up to you guys to decide if we want to do that or not
(I'm for it).
== The FUDCon logo ==
Similarly to the Fedora logo, Pam strongly advised not changing the font
of the FUDCon wordmark. However, she did state that she was fine with
the text for the location of where the FUDCon is held may be changed to
Comfortaa.
We guys need to decide if we want to change the font for the location in
the FUDCon logo. I'm for it.
== On trademarks in general ==
As Pam mentioned during the meeting Tuesday, there are only registered
trademarks and unregistered trademarks. If we create a logo that
uniquely represents Fedora, it's still a trademark of Fedora (and
therefore Red Hat), and we need to do the best we can to protect the
usage of that logo.
Since we are a free software community, we need to walk the fine line
between protecting usage of the trademarks and allowing usage of the
trademarks as much as we can without tarnishing our brand.
We will write up some basic usage guidelines for the Foundations artwork
and the FUDCon logo, and place them on the brand guidelines page for our
team, the Board, and Red Hat Legal to approve. It is the eventual goal
to make sure that those get moved into the overall trademark guidelines.
== Logo distribution ==
All SVG files containing the Fedora wordmark or the Infinity design logo
will continue to be distributed by request by emailing
logo(a)fedoraproject.org.
The remaining logos (at this point Foundations and FUDCon) will be
distributed through a tarball that may be downloaded via HTTP from
somewhere on fedoraproject.org. Although these logos are still Fedora
trademarks, Legal is not worried about rampant misuse of these logos,
but we will still be sure to enforce the proper use of our trademarks.
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