Hi Design Team.
As you're probably aware we are working early on the F12 naming process, to provide the Fedora Design team plenty of time for theming the next release, as requested. The community submitted names to the wiki page, and then the Board did a vote on the community names that passed the initial review process. The top names will be sent to Legal for final approval and then turned into a ballot on which the whole community will vote. Therefore, the top name on the Board's list may not end up winning the final vote. I'm only going to list the top 16 or so names here to make things easier for this team -- the idea is that I will send about 12 names to Legal, and hope for at least 8 back that pass legal review.
I would ask that people remember that themes can be very broad and simply "inspired" by a name. For example, "Heisenberg" is the name of a scientist who postulated the Uncertainty Principle (that measuring certain subatomic events actually changed the nature of those events). So that name lends itself to things like atoms/molecules, or other interconnectedness that could represent community, and building structure from small things.
Before I send the list on to Legal, I would like the Design team to look at these names and give me some indication of their themeability.
I think the easiest way to accomplish this is for anyone participating in the Design team to indicate whether they think a name *can* be themed, either with "+1" and/or an idea for how to do it. If there are any names for which no one indicates themeability, I will consider leaving those off the list for final review by Legal.
Josh Boyer, the Board, and I are performing this process early -- before Fedora 11 is even released! -- because the Design Team has asked for that repeatedly. Therefore the sooner you can get me your input, the sooner I can send these on to Legal, and set up a community voting process for the actual F12 name. I would really like it if I can get people's input in the next 24-48 hours!
The list:
Quetzalcoatl Constantine Hubble Skywalker Umbria Hippokoon Heisenberg Goliath Rugosa Adamastor Orville Chilon Wallace Elvis Cimrman Alexander Stradivari
On Tue, Jun 02, 2009 at 08:24:22AM -0400, Paul W. Frields wrote: [...snip...]
The list:
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Skywalker
This name should not have made the final list -- please ignore it, sorry for the confusion.
On Tue, Jun 02, 2009 at 04:11:17PM +0200, Max Spevack wrote:
On Tue, 2 Jun 2009, Paul W. Frields wrote:
Skywalker
This name should not have made the final list -- please ignore it, sorry for the confusion.
I find your lack of faith disturbing.
Too much time on your hands have you.
Paul W. Frields wrote:
On Tue, Jun 02, 2009 at 04:11:17PM +0200, Max Spevack wrote:
On Tue, 2 Jun 2009, Paul W. Frields wrote:
Skywalker
This name should not have made the final list -- please ignore it, sorry for the confusion.
I find your lack of faith disturbing.
Too much time on your hands have you.
I've got a bad feeling about this.
On 06/02/2009 03:24 PM, Paul W. Frields wrote:
Hi Design Team.
Hi, mighty leader!
Before I send the list on to Legal, I would like the Design team to look at these names and give me some indication of their themeability.
After a quick read of the list, I don't see anything as unthemeable as "sulphur", so any of the choices are acceptable IMO.
I think the easiest way to accomplish this is for anyone participating in the Design team to indicate whether they think a name *can* be themed, either with "+1" and/or an idea for how to do it. If there are any names for which no one indicates themeability, I will consider leaving those off the list for final review by Legal.
I don't this is the case
Josh Boyer, the Board, and I are performing this process early -- before Fedora 11 is even released! -- because the Design Team has asked for that repeatedly. Therefore the sooner you can get me your input, the sooner I can send these on to Legal, and set up a community voting process for the actual F12 name. I would really like it if I can get people's input in the next 24-48 hours!
The list:
I will take them one by one and emit some quick ideas:
Quetzalcoatl
It may be inspired by an asteroid, but I would be tempted to challenge the cultural taboos and use some pre-Columbian imagery (dragon serpents, pyramids)
Constantine
Byzantine... 'nuff said :D
Hubble
Stars, galaxies, we can just stole the wallpaper from the Astronomy spin
Umbria
I am pretty sure our Italian friends can come with a lot of ideas about this (I don't think we will feature Star Trek ships).
Hippokoon
I am no big fan of this, going with (less known[1]) Spartan kings will be pretty much repeating some motifs tried for F11, but is doable.
[1] even all wikipedia has to say about it is a stub: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hippocoon
Heisenberg
Paul gave already an idea here
Goliath
Power, might, crushing everything around. But is it a good idea? Ultimately Goliath was a loser, defeated by David.
Rugosa
I think it may be interesting to have a floral theme, with roses and stuff. We can claim the girls temporarily overpowered the geeks at Fedora.
Adamastor
I have the same concern as for Hippokoon
Orville
It may be interesting to have a graphic theme about music and shout "Fedora 12 rocks!"
Chilon
Good thing we can shift from Ancient Greek heroes to Swiss castles, I would try touse this in a theme.
Wallace
We can try something dark, Sin City style or some Scottish references.
Elvis
To go with "music" would be to obvious, we can try something like "is not dead!"
Cimrman
The Czech character is, IMHO, a bit obscure for an international audience so we may have to go here with the astronomy thing.
Alexander
I would liked more to have in the suggestion list some references for secondary meanings, we know is a common name, was a Greek king... something else to try than the same old Greek theme.
Stradivari
Music, classic, fine art.
Those are some ideas I got "on the spot", with some thinking I am sure we can find some more, so any choice is doable (but I would not be happy with repeating an "Ancient Greece" theme).
----- Original Message ----
From: Nicu Buculei nicu_fedora@nicubunu.ro After a quick read of the list, I don't see anything as unthemeable as "sulphur", so any of the choices are acceptable IMO.
Yes that one was a real stinker... HAWHAWHAW :)
I will take them one by one and emit some quick ideas:
Quetzalcoatl
It may be inspired by an asteroid, but I would be tempted to challenge the cultural taboos and use some pre-Columbian imagery (dragon serpents, pyramids)
+1 I think the pre-Columbian imagery is a great idea.
Constantine
Byzantine... 'nuff said :D
Hubble
Stars, galaxies, we can just stole the wallpaper from the Astronomy spin
+1
Umbria
I am pretty sure our Italian friends can come with a lot of ideas about this (I don't think we will feature Star Trek ships).
+1
Hippokoon
I am no big fan of this, going with (less known[1]) Spartan kings will be pretty much repeating some motifs tried for F11, but is doable.
[1] even all wikipedia has to say about it is a stub: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hippocoon
-1 I would definitely like to move on from the Spartan idea...
Heisenberg
Paul gave already an idea here
+1
Goliath
Power, might, crushing everything around. But is it a good idea? Ultimately Goliath was a loser, defeated by David.
+1 I think we could twist this around though, e.g. we could theme the artwork on defeating the target of Goliath, posing Fedora as the David...
Rugosa
+1 I LOVE this one. There are so many beautiful natural patterns we could use - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Haeckel_Tetracoralla.jpg
I think it may be interesting to have a floral theme, with roses and stuff. We can claim the girls temporarily overpowered the geeks at Fedora.
Adamastor
I have the same concern as for Hippokoon
-1 me too, please let's move on from Spartans!
Orville
It may be interesting to have a graphic theme about music and shout "Fedora 12 rocks!"
+1 http://fedorapeople.org/groups/designteam/Fedora%20Collateral/Guitar%20Pick/... :)
Chilon
Good thing we can shift from Ancient Greek heroes to Swiss castles, I would try touse this in a theme.
+1
Wallace
We can try something dark, Sin City style or some Scottish references.
+1
Elvis
To go with "music" would be to obvious, we can try something like "is not dead!"
+1 We could do something spooky maybe, Elvis' ghost...
Cimrman
The Czech character is, IMHO, a bit obscure for an international audience so we may have to go here with the astronomy thing.
+1
Alexander
I would liked more to have in the suggestion list some references for secondary meanings, we know is a common name, was a Greek king... something else to try than the same old Greek theme.
+1 I think there's a lot of possibilities here tho. Alexander Graham Bell, Alexander Method, or maybe the movie Moondance Alexander which is about ponies which leads to a OMG!!!!! PONIES!!@!#!@$!@$ theme!
Stradivari
Music, classic, fine art.
+1
Those are some ideas I got "on the spot", with some thinking I am sure we can find some more, so any choice is doable (but I would not be happy with repeating an "Ancient Greece" theme).
Same here, no repeats!
~m
Quetzalcoatl
+1 , latam culture has a really interesting shapes that we can use:
http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2079/2214700802_f5d1b787d9_o.jpg <== can we do something like this??? Fedora followers?
Rugosa
+1
Maybe we could make a "under sea" theme, using images of ancient and future species of animals and the fedora bubble as the sun, or use the bubble and logo like ancient sculptures:
http://blog.makezine.com/MAKE_689.jpg http://www.supertouchart.com/wp-content/uploads/2007/12/uwpicture-12.jpg
Wallace
We can try something dark, Sin City style or some Scottish references.
+1 I love dark things :D I think I can help here
On Wed, Jun 03, 2009 at 10:22:04AM +1930, María Leandro wrote:
Quetzalcoatl
+1 , latam culture has a really interesting shapes that we can use:
http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2079/2214700802_f5d1b787d9_o.jpg <== can we do something like this??? Fedora followers?
Hey, that's from the movie "Apocalypto" I'm pretty sure. I'm not so sure about the followers idea, simply because it seems more about a single powerful leader (dictator?) and less about community. But I *LOVE* the ziggurats!
Rugosa
+1
Maybe we could make a "under sea" theme, using images of ancient and future species of animals and the fedora bubble as the sun, or use the bubble and logo like ancient sculptures:
http://blog.makezine.com/MAKE_689.jpg http://www.supertouchart.com/wp-content/uploads/2007/12/uwpicture-12.jpg
Oh my gosh, those are awesome!
On Tue, Jun 02, 2009 at 07:35:45AM -0700, Máirín Duffy wrote:
From: Nicu Buculei nicu_fedora@nicubunu.ro
Goliath
Power, might, crushing everything around. But is it a good idea? Ultimately Goliath was a loser, defeated by David.
+1 I think we could twist this around though, e.g. we could theme the artwork on defeating the target of Goliath, posing Fedora as the David...
Oh, that's a very intersting take on this -- like each release slaying the former one? F12 > F11, and so on.
Rugosa
+1 I LOVE this one. There are so many beautiful natural patterns we could use - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Haeckel_Tetracoralla.jpg
Whoa, that's really cool!
Adamastor
I have the same concern as for Hippokoon
-1 me too, please let's move on from Spartans!
I'm detecting an undercurrent of dissatisfaction with the Greek king names. ;-) I think we can settle on removing these from the list we send to Legal.
Orville
It may be interesting to have a graphic theme about music and shout "Fedora 12 rocks!"
+1 http://fedorapeople.org/groups/designteam/Fedora%20Collateral/Guitar%20Pick/... :)
Fedora is where the real rock stars live, IMHO. :-)
Alexander
I would liked more to have in the suggestion list some references for secondary meanings, we know is a common name, was a Greek king... something else to try than the same old Greek theme.
+1 I think there's a lot of possibilities here tho. Alexander Graham Bell, Alexander Method, or maybe the movie Moondance Alexander which is about ponies which leads to a OMG!!!!! PONIES!!@!#!@$!@$ theme!
Lulz.
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On 06/02/2009 08:28 PM, Paul W. Frields wrote:
Goliath
Power, might, crushing everything around. But is it a good idea? Ultimately Goliath was a loser, defeated by David.
+1 I think we could twist this around though, e.g. we could theme the artwork on defeating the target of Goliath, posing Fedora as the David...
Oh, that's a very intersting take on this -- like each release slaying the former one? F12 > F11, and so on.
IMHO, it is very much possible to be misinterpreted as Fedora slaying M$ proprietary or some other open source distro :-(
- -- Gireesh Sreekantan
Hi Nicu!
On Tue, Jun 02, 2009 at 04:57:35PM +0300, Nicu Buculei wrote:
On 06/02/2009 03:24 PM, Paul W. Frields wrote: I will take them one by one and emit some quick ideas:
Thank you for brainstorming these -- that makes me feel better that there are fewer names where the Design Team would later worry, "This name's awful, we can't theme this!" I can't wait to see what other Designers are thinking too.
Goliath
Power, might, crushing everything around. But is it a good idea? Ultimately Goliath was a loser, defeated by David.
I think this is a poor name myself, but it met the other criteria; I may have to exert some executive power and pull it from the list before sending to Legal. One could argue I should have done that before. I did a lot of name vetting, and asked for the Board members' assistance, but we still ended up with 82 names under consideration by the Board. Obviously we already missed "Skywalker," and arguably missed one or two others that should have been dropped. Mea culpa!
Rugosa
I think it may be interesting to have a floral theme, with roses and stuff. We can claim the girls temporarily overpowered the geeks at Fedora.
Blue roses would be beautiful. http://images.google.com/images?q=blue+roses (warning: may not be CC licensed)
Adamastor
I have the same concern as for Hippokoon
Yes, the Hippokoon and Adamastor names seem to be difficult to link out as well.
Orville
It may be interesting to have a graphic theme about music and shout "Fedora 12 rocks!"
Blue guitars would be beautiful. http://images.google.com/images?q=blue+guitar (warning: may not be CC licensed)
Elvis
To go with "music" would be to obvious, we can try something like "is not dead!"
Wait, young sexy Elvis, or old fat Elvis? :-D
Cimrman
The Czech character is, IMHO, a bit obscure for an international audience so we may have to go here with the astronomy thing.
I really liked this name... And I'm sure if this ends up on the list we'll have many votes coming in from the Red Hat offices in Brno, where there are many Fedora contributors! I found the history of the Cimrman character fascinating, and it plays into the way that FLOSS is somewhat subversive, yet entertaining and plays a big part in emergent culture.
Alexander
I would liked more to have in the suggestion list some references for secondary meanings, we know is a common name, was a Greek king... something else to try than the same old Greek theme.
Someone brought up the helmet as an interesting design element for Leonidas -- maybe that's worth investigating further. I'm not sure how much I dig this name; I think it's not "unique" enough to capture many votes, but the community will decide.
Stradivari
Music, classic, fine art.
I like this music motif... :-)
On Tue, 2009-06-02 at 08:24 -0400, Paul W. Frields wrote:
Hi Design Team.
As you're probably aware we are working early on the F12 naming process, to provide the Fedora Design team plenty of time for theming the next release, as requested. The community submitted names to the wiki page, and then the Board did a vote on the community names that passed the initial review process. The top names will be sent to Legal for final approval and then turned into a ballot on which the whole community will vote. Therefore, the top name on the Board's list may not end up winning the final vote. I'm only going to list the top 16 or so names here to make things easier for this team -- the idea is that I will send about 12 names to Legal, and hope for at least 8 back that pass legal review.
I would ask that people remember that themes can be very broad and simply "inspired" by a name. For example, "Heisenberg" is the name of a scientist who postulated the Uncertainty Principle (that measuring certain subatomic events actually changed the nature of those events). So that name lends itself to things like atoms/molecules, or other interconnectedness that could represent community, and building structure from small things.
Before I send the list on to Legal, I would like the Design team to look at these names and give me some indication of their themeability.
I think the easiest way to accomplish this is for anyone participating in the Design team to indicate whether they think a name *can* be themed, either with "+1" and/or an idea for how to do it. If there are any names for which no one indicates themeability, I will consider leaving those off the list for final review by Legal.
Josh Boyer, the Board, and I are performing this process early -- before Fedora 11 is even released! -- because the Design Team has asked for that repeatedly. Therefore the sooner you can get me your input, the sooner I can send these on to Legal, and set up a community voting process for the actual F12 name. I would really like it if I can get people's input in the next 24-48 hours!
The list:
Quetzalcoatl
+1 should be probably possible to do some simplified or abstract-ized version of this deity.
Constantine
unsure. I can imagine connection to Constantinople but I don't have in mind any concrete idea that would work good as default wallpaper
Hubble
+1 either stylised satellites or deep-space like view should be plausible
Umbria
not sure what this is, wikipedia says it's in Italy, so we could maybe go with some landscape images, but seeing how we failed with that for F11...
Hippokoon
unsure.
Heisenberg
+1
Goliath Rugosa Adamastor Orville Chilon Wallace Elvis Cimrman Alexander Stradivari
These are all names of (imaginary) people, it seems... For Cimrman you can go with probably anything (since he invented everything...) also it appeals to me because I am Czech... Stradivari would be probably nice for taking some parts of violins and building the themes around it, similar for Elvis (though with guitar or just music in general). Not sure about the rest... Maybe others would have some ideas on these.
Martin
On 06/02/2009 04:58 PM, Martin Sourada wrote:
On Tue, 2009-06-02 at 08:24 -0400, Paul W. Frields wrote:
Constantine
unsure. I can imagine connection to Constantinople but I don't have in mind any concrete idea that would work good as default wallpaper
Architecture
Hubble
+1 A theme with space object, in particular human-made, like satellites.
Heisenberg
+1 Paul's idea is very good for me (particles and atoms..)
Elvis
+1 Music-based theme, wide choose of concepts.
Stradivari
+1 This is my favourite name, with it IMHO we can produce a really fine theme. Look at this: http://www.flickr.com/photos/gi/326853730/ It seems to be an "f"...like fedora ;-)
I'm not so sure of Elvis (and the other persons named), would be right to be associated with someone? why won't we try to make us the point of association for other things?
On Wed, Jun 03, 2009 at 10:50:02AM +1930, María Leandro wrote:
I'm not so sure of Elvis (and the other persons named), would be right to be associated with someone? why won't we try to make us the point of association for other things?
I think it's OK for the name to inspire certain references and themes. We definitely don't want to build the theme around any specific person or depiction of a character.
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I am biased so I am commenting only on the ones that I liked or disliked ;-)
Heisenberg
- -1 : First thing that comes to mind is "Uncertainity". FUD is not good for a name :(
Adamastor
- -1 : Greek
Orville
Orvile Wright - could go with a small glider plane against a vast mostly empty background indicating that Fedora soars higher!
Chilon
Greece again
Wallace
I love sin city styles..
Elvis
Fedora wallpaper extras has a good acoustic guitar. https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/File:Wallpaper-gothick-acoustic-guitar.jpg
Stradivari
same as above
- -- Gireesh Sreekantan
I've received some informative counsel from Legal that we also need to remove "Elvis" from the running. The revised list, removing problematic Greek kings and Star Wars heroes, and Goliath which has too many negative connotations:
Quetzalcoatl Constantine Hubble Umbria Heisenberg Rugosa Orville Chilon Wallace Cimrman Alexander Stradivari
Does everyone agree that any of these is suitable for some sort of theming?
2009/6/2 Paul W. Frields stickster@gmail.com
I've received some informative counsel from Legal that we also need to remove "Elvis" from the running. The revised list, removing problematic Greek kings and Star Wars heroes, and Goliath which has too many negative connotations:
Quetzalcoatl Constantine Hubble Umbria Heisenberg Rugosa Orville Chilon Wallace Cimrman Alexander Stradivari
Does everyone agree that any of these is suitable for some sort of theming?
Personally I agree. IMHO all the names in the new list are themeable.
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Hubble
+1 for me is powerfull, gives an idea of the future, discovery, future
Constantine
+1
Alexander
+1
Stradivari
Does everyone agree that any of these is suitable for some sort of theming?
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On Tue, Jun 2, 2009 at 2:24 PM, Paul W. Frields stickster@gmail.com wrote:
Hi Design Team.
As you're probably aware we are working early on the F12 naming process, to provide the Fedora Design team plenty of time for theming the next release, as requested. The community submitted names to the wiki page, and then the Board did a vote on the community names that passed the initial review process. The top names will be sent to Legal for final approval and then turned into a ballot on which the whole community will vote. Therefore, the top name on the Board's list may not end up winning the final vote. I'm only going to list the top 16 or so names here to make things easier for this team -- the idea is that I will send about 12 names to Legal, and hope for at least 8 back that pass legal review.
I would ask that people remember that themes can be very broad and simply "inspired" by a name. For example, "Heisenberg" is the name of a scientist who postulated the Uncertainty Principle (that measuring certain subatomic events actually changed the nature of those events). So that name lends itself to things like atoms/molecules, or other interconnectedness that could represent community, and building structure from small things.
Before I send the list on to Legal, I would like the Design team to look at these names and give me some indication of their themeability.
I think the easiest way to accomplish this is for anyone participating in the Design team to indicate whether they think a name *can* be themed, either with "+1" and/or an idea for how to do it. If there are any names for which no one indicates themeability, I will consider leaving those off the list for final review by Legal.
Josh Boyer, the Board, and I are performing this process early -- before Fedora 11 is even released! -- because the Design Team has asked for that repeatedly. Therefore the sooner you can get me your input, the sooner I can send these on to Legal, and set up a community voting process for the actual F12 name. I would really like it if I can get people's input in the next 24-48 hours!
The list:
Quetzalcoatl
-1: hard to pronounce, remember and write about.
Constantine
+1: good for combining worlds and bridging the gaps
Hubble
+1: could be an interesting concept but what association do we have with Fedora?
Hippokoon
-1: to much the same as Leonidas but still a weaker representation of the same thing. Chilon has the same problem
Heisenberg
-1: too close to the FC3 release name Heidelberg
Goliath
-1: not a winning character. David would be more appropriate and more of a theme like Leonidas!
Adamastor
+1: has good association but a bit obscure...
Wallace
+1: wallace has the same theme as leonidas, fighting against a bigger enemy by combining a scattered group. the basic idea of open source...
Elvis
-1 music names could be good but the king is dead and not in a good way. we could get wrong association.
Cimrman
-1: too obscure!
Alexander
+1: a lot of options we can exploit
Stradivari
+1: music association to perfection and high quality.
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On Tue, Jun 02, 2009 at 07:06:47PM +0200, Joost Elfering wrote:
Heisenberg-1: too close to the FC3 release name Heidelberg
In other breaking news, I was asked by a Board member to remove this name because it resembles "Heisenbug," which means a hard-to-trace bug that seems to change as you chase it. (Get it?) ;-)
Hi all and greetings from Finland, here's my take on the list:
Quetzalcoatl +1 I really love the old latam culture and I think that a hard-to-pronounce name could be a fun thing... But it would be great if we could make it into late 2012 release (which would be F16 if I counted right) And then the theme could be something about the end of the world and the beginning of a new era. http://hiscrivener.wordpress.com/2008/11/07/apocalypse-watch-q-dog-raking-di...
Constantine +1 Ancient Rome. This also brings to my mind the movie with Keanu... which isn't a bad thing ;)
Hubble +1 Space is a good place to make themes from.
Rugosa +1 frogs, underwater worlds and flowers are all fun to make themes from. and the girls overpowering geeks could also be hilarious
Orville +1 as Gireesh Sreekantan said:
Orvile Wright - could go with a small glider plane against a vast mostly
empty background indicating that Fedora soars higher! although we did this already with Moonshine (F7)... I still like the idea
Chilon -1 quite close to Leonidas
Wallace +1 Sin City and its darkness with cartoon like effects
And as Joost just said:
Cimrman>-1: too obscure! Alexander
+1: a lot of options we can exploit
Stradivari
+1: music association to perfection and high quality.
On Tue, Jun 2, 2009 at 22:35, Paul W. Frields stickster@gmail.com wrote:
On Tue, Jun 02, 2009 at 07:06:47PM +0200, Joost Elfering wrote:
Heisenberg-1: too close to the FC3 release name Heidelberg
In other breaking news, I was asked by a Board member to remove this name because it resembles "Heisenbug," which means a hard-to-trace bug that seems to change as you chase it. (Get it?) ;-)
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What do you think about "TERRA" ?
2009/6/3 jere samuli perttula j.s.perttula@gmail.com
Hi all and greetings from Finland, here's my take on the list:
Quetzalcoatl +1 I really love the old latam culture and I think that a hard-to-pronounce name could be a fun thing... But it would be great if we could make it into late 2012 release (which would be F16 if I counted right) And then the theme could be something about the end of the world and the beginning of a new era. http://hiscrivener.wordpress.com/2008/11/07/apocalypse-watch-q-dog-raking-di...
Constantine +1 Ancient Rome. This also brings to my mind the movie with Keanu... which isn't a bad thing ;)
Hubble +1 Space is a good place to make themes from.
Rugosa +1 frogs, underwater worlds and flowers are all fun to make themes from. and the girls overpowering geeks could also be hilarious
Orville +1 as Gireesh Sreekantan said:
Orvile Wright - could go with a small glider plane against a vast mostly
empty background indicating that Fedora soars higher! although we did this already with Moonshine (F7)... I still like the idea
Chilon -1 quite close to Leonidas
Wallace +1 Sin City and its darkness with cartoon like effects
And as Joost just said:
Cimrman>-1: too obscure! Alexander
+1: a lot of options we can exploit
Stradivari
+1: music association to perfection and high quality.
On Tue, Jun 2, 2009 at 22:35, Paul W. Frields stickster@gmail.com wrote:
On Tue, Jun 02, 2009 at 07:06:47PM +0200, Joost Elfering wrote:
Heisenberg-1: too close to the FC3 release name Heidelberg
In other breaking news, I was asked by a Board member to remove this name because it resembles "Heisenbug," which means a hard-to-trace bug that seems to change as you chase it. (Get it?) ;-)
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On 06/03/2009 11:43 AM, Cata wrote:
What do you think about "TERRA" ?
The time to suggest new names passed, we are beyond this step in the process - https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Name_suggestions_for_Fedora_12
On Tue, Jun 2, 2009 at 9:35 PM, Paul W. Frields stickster@gmail.com wrote:
On Tue, Jun 02, 2009 at 07:06:47PM +0200, Joost Elfering wrote:
Heisenberg
-1: too close to the FC3 release name Heidelberg
In other breaking news, I was asked by a Board member to remove this name because it resembles "Heisenbug," which means a hard-to-trace bug that seems to change as you chase it. (Get it?) ;-)
I guess the Board has a good geek score :P
Cheers from Umbria...
G.
On 06/02/2009 08:06 PM, Joost Elfering wrote:
On Tue, Jun 2, 2009 at 2:24 PM, Paul W. Frields wrote:
Quetzalcoatl-1: hard to pronounce, remember and write about.
But we were asked here only about themeability, the large community will hold a vote and determine which one is a good name. I also have no idea how to pronounce Quetzalcoatl, but I think it may give an opportunity for some cool graphics.
On Wed, Jun 3, 2009 at 7:54 AM, Nicu Buculei nicu_fedora@nicubunu.rowrote:
On 06/02/2009 08:06 PM, Joost Elfering wrote:
On Tue, Jun 2, 2009 at 2:24 PM, Paul W. Frields wrote:
Quetzalcoatl-1: hard to pronounce, remember and write about.
But we were asked here only about themeability, the large community will hold a vote and determine which one is a good name. I also have no idea how to pronounce Quetzalcoatl, but I think it may give an opportunity for some cool graphics.
true,
but i can still give my opinion about it ;-). I have been in some naming processes before and I think this does not meet the requirements for a good name. should we invest time in names that should never make the final selection.
~joost
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On Wed, Jun 03, 2009 at 09:29:22AM +0200, Joost Elfering wrote:
On Wed, Jun 3, 2009 at 7:54 AM, Nicu Buculei nicu_fedora@nicubunu.ro wrote:
On 06/02/2009 08:06 PM, Joost Elfering wrote: > On Tue, Jun 2, 2009 at 2:24 PM, Paul W. Frields wrote: > > Quetzalcoatl > > -1: hard to pronounce, remember and write about. But we were asked here only about themeability, the large community will hold a vote and determine which one is a good name. I also have no idea how to pronounce Quetzalcoatl, but I think it may give an opportunity for some cool graphics.true,
but i can still give my opinion about it ;-). I have been in some naming processes before and I think this does not meet the requirements for a good name. should we invest time in names that should never make the final selection.
The amount of time required here is very low, so I would say it's well spent. :-) Remember that we're just discussing themeability, not actually asking people to design things yet. Once the community decides on a name, we'll be able to proceed with the step that actually takes considerable time. ;-)
As for pronunciation, I think that "Bordeaux" and arguably "Tettnang" fall into the same category as "Quetzalcoatl." (I remember first encountering this name as a young boy and I thought it was really cool then, so I'm happy to see it on this list.)
On 06/03/2009 03:42 PM, Paul W. Frields wrote:
As for pronunciation, I think that "Bordeaux" and arguably "Tettnang" fall into the same category as "Quetzalcoatl." (I remember first encountering this name as a young boy and I thought it was really cool then, so I'm happy to see it on this list.)
I can see us recording short video clips (in Ogg Theora of course) about how to pronounce it right and put them on our blogs (using the VIDEO tag in HTML5). Fun stuff...
On Wed, Jun 3, 2009 at 7:58 AM, Nicu Buculei nicu_fedora@nicubunu.ro wrote:
On 06/03/2009 03:42 PM, Paul W. Frields wrote:
As for pronunciation, I think that "Bordeaux" and arguably "Tettnang" fall into the same category as "Quetzalcoatl." (I remember first encountering this name as a young boy and I thought it was really cool then, so I'm happy to see it on this list.)
I can see us recording short video clips (in Ogg Theora of course) about how to pronounce it right and put them on our blogs (using the VIDEO tag in HTML5). Fun stuff...
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Or even a phonetic representation in text :)
Quet·zal·co·a·tl (kĕt-säl'kō-ät'l)
Cheers,
Clint
On Wed, Jun 03, 2009 at 08:03:07AM -0600, Clint Savage wrote:
On Wed, Jun 3, 2009 at 7:58 AM, Nicu Buculei nicu_fedora@nicubunu.ro wrote:
On 06/03/2009 03:42 PM, Paul W. Frields wrote:
As for pronunciation, I think that "Bordeaux" and arguably "Tettnang" fall into the same category as "Quetzalcoatl." (I remember first encountering this name as a young boy and I thought it was really cool then, so I'm happy to see it on this list.)
I can see us recording short video clips (in Ogg Theora of course) about how to pronounce it right and put them on our blogs (using the VIDEO tag in HTML5). Fun stuff...
-- nicu :: http://nicubunu.ro :: http://nicubunu.blogspot.com/ photography: http://photoblog.nicubunu.ro/ my Fedora stuff: http://fedora.nicubunu.ro/
Or even a phonetic representation in text :)
Quet·zal·co·a·tl (kĕt-säl'kō-ät'l)
What do you think of having the phonetics being part of some interesting marketing (not the artwork/theme necessarily)?
On Wed, Jun 03, 2009 at 08:54:08AM +0300, Nicu Buculei wrote:
On 06/02/2009 08:06 PM, Joost Elfering wrote:
On Tue, Jun 2, 2009 at 2:24 PM, Paul W. Frields wrote:
Quetzalcoatl-1: hard to pronounce, remember and write about.
But we were asked here only about themeability, the large community will hold a vote and determine which one is a good name. I also have no idea how to pronounce Quetzalcoatl, but I think it may give an opportunity for some cool graphics.
Thanks, everybody, for your input. I've passed the resulting list, trimmed to eliminate the few names that were obvious problems, to Legal for review:
Quetzalcoatl Constantine Hubble Umbria Rugosa Orville Chilon Wallace Cimrman Alexander Stradivari
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