desktop June 2009

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gtk print dialog and OOo
by Caolán McNamara 11 Jul '09

11 Jul '09

We've supported a gtk print dialog integration in OOo for a while, but there has always been a few little gotchas, and now that the "built-in" OOo dialog has some nifty extras there are extra gotchas. So I'll be reverting to the "built-in" dialog for F11, a quick dump of the gotchas are.. *) Need an extra "Selection" option for printing. http://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=344519 http://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=563619 OOo can print just the selected text, selected graphic or selected cells, but no way to show that in the gtk print dialog. *) Way to specify the page size and orientation (esp. when using n-up printing) http://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=551409 http://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=551726 Most OpenOffice.org applications have per-page orientations rather than global per print-job orientation, but when printing multiple pages in one sheet of paper through cups, its desirable to have a way to specify the orientation and page size of the combined sheet. We could do this with a custom tab, but see next entry *) Emit a signal when a printer is selected. http://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=564854 So e.g. a custom tab that should only exist for say, printing to a cups backend, or using save as .pdf file can be shown/hidden depending on the printer selection, e.g. pdf encryption options or pdf "read-only except for filling in fields" directives which only make sense in a save as .pdf context. Hackable around with nasty switch-page callback on the notebook widget if you rummage around horrifically through the dialog hierarchy looking for it. *) Spreadsheet printing No "All Sheets", "Selected Sheets" in addition to the pages options for spreadsheets that may have multiple sheets each of which can span multiple pages. "Page 1 of 2 sheets selected out of 3 sheets in total". Could do a gnumeric and do this in a custom tab though *) Presentation printing Want to select notes, or outline, or handouts. Could do this in a custom tab though.

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Raising the bar
by Matthias Clasen 30 Jun '09

30 Jun '09

Hey all, we'd like to announce the 'Fit and Finish' initiative for Fedora, http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Fit_and_Finish with the goal to improve the user experience of the Fedora desktop. We want to identify the small (and sometimes large) roadblocks that make everyday computer use harder than it needs to be, and try to fix them. 'Fit and Finish' is meant to be complementary to the work of the Fedora QA team. They do a great job of ensuring the quality of all the new features that land in Fedora each cycle. But when features are developed and tested on their own, the overall experience of the system as a whole can sometimes end up a bit uneven and rough. 'Fit and Finish' will focus on improving the way our users experience Fedora. To achieve this, we will hold regular test days, each of which will focus on use cases in a certain area. A few ideas for test day topics can be found on the 'Fit and Finish' page already. If you have ideas for other areas that could benefit from this kind of attention, please let us know. Our first test day will focus on display configuration, and will be held on Tuesday, July 7, from 12:00 to 21:00 UTC (8am -> 5pm EDT), in the fedora-fit-and-finish irc channel on FreeNode. Please come and join us there ! Matthias Clasen for the Desktop team

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Interested in scanning?
by Bastien Nocera 30 Jun '09

30 Jun '09

Heya, Yesterday, I was browsing Ubuntu's "Blueprints" for their next release, and saw this: https://blueprints.edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+spec/desktop-karmic-gnomescan gnome-scan is already packaged by Deji, but I gather that more integration work could be done to make setting up and using scanners easier in GNOME and Fedora in general. Any takers? I think a good start would be making a list of problems seen in setting up scanners (additional packages required, tweaks), and make sure that gnome-scan and the necessary plugins are installed in a default installation. Cheers /Bastien, who doesn't own a scanner

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Automatic Bug Reporting Tool ( ABRT )
by "Jóhann B. Guðmundsson" 30 Jun '09

30 Jun '09

Does anyone have any info on which components support or are supported by abrt or how it's their wiki does not mention it nor how to it's done? The reason I ask is because I'm working in trying to improve reporting and their faced with same problem as we @ QA are which is we need to know what maintainers want on their report. ( which files to attache etc ) If ye want to see more about improved reporting here https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/User:Johannbg/QA/Improve_reporting#Lack_of_n…. I took a look at their Gui and suggested some improvements https://fedorahosted.org/abrt/attachment/ticket/53/Automatic%20Bug%20Report… https://fedorahosted.org/abrt/attachment/ticket/53/ABRT_simple_bug_filing_f… There is no rocket science behind my suggestion the upcoming Bugzilla release is introducing a simpler reporting form see http://lpsolit.wordpress.com/2009/05/24/simpler-form-to-file-bugs-in-bugzil… if we make abrt look as similar to the bugzilla as we can we reduce the learning curve for reporters. Reporters that start using abrt will have no problem using our bugzilla ( if needed ) nor will reporters that are used to use the bugzilla have no problem using abrt. Feed back appreciated. JBG

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Re: Raising the bar
by Adam Jackson 29 Jun '09

29 Jun '09

On Mon, 2009-06-29 at 23:48 +0400, Peter Lemenkov wrote: > 2009/6/29 Matthias Clasen <mclasen(a)redhat.com>: > > Hey all, > > > > we'd like to announce the 'Fit and Finish' initiative for Fedora, > > > > http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Fit_and_Finish > > > > with the goal to improve the user experience of the Fedora desktop. > > If you wish to improve *user* experience, then you should focus > entirely on actual Fedora releases rather than on Rawhide. However I > see that in testing days you still encourage only users with > up-to-date Rawhide installations. That's not an option for wide > audience, and, therefore this initiative will be doomed. > > -- > With best regards! I have difficulty reconciling your last sentence, and your .sig. In addition to rawhide live media, as Matthias mentioned, we'll be happy to take bug reports against current releases. They're of slightly less value, since they are effectively a list of things to check the next rawhide against, and may never get fixed in the stream they're reported against due to all the usual technical reasons (backport difficulty, etc), but that doesn't mean they're valueless. - ajax

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Re: Raising the bar
by Matthias Clasen 29 Jun '09

29 Jun '09

On Mon, 2009-06-29 at 23:48 +0400, Peter Lemenkov wrote: > If you wish to improve *user* experience, then you should focus > entirely on actual Fedora releases rather than on Rawhide. However I > see that in testing days you still encourage only users with > up-to-date Rawhide installations. That's not an option for wide > audience, and, therefore this initiative will be doomed. Making it easy for a wide audience to participate without requiring a rawhide installation is certainly a goal. We will have live cds available for the test days, just like you know from other Fedora test days. As soon as live cd creation works again on rawhide... Thanks for raising this point, Matthias

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Empathy in F12
by Matthias Clasen 18 Jun '09

18 Jun '09

With empathy-2.27.3 in rawhide, I have now switched pidgin for empathy in the default install. I haven't added any explicit telepathy modules, so by default we'll just get what empathy pulls in: -gabble (XMPP), -salut (XMPP/zeroconf) and -haze (protocols supported by libpurple). I haven't added -sofiasip (and relegated ekiga to optional) yet, we can finetune this later. Matthias

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Gnote 0.5.0 now with support for importing Tomboy notes
by Rahul Sundaram 17 Jun '09

17 Jun '09

Hi Gnote 0.5,0 released today and I have now built it for Rawhide, Fedora 11 and Fedora 10. It has support for importing Tomboy notes on first run for a new user. With this feature being added, I believe all the desired features discussed in this list before has been covered. If you got more, feel free to file them (preferably in the upstream bug tracker). Rahul

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PolicyKit changes in F12
by Matthias Clasen 10 Jun '09

10 Jun '09

Just a heads-up: We hope to land a new PolicyKit version (which will turn into 1.0, eventually) in F12 soon. The new version simplifies the API and will require PolicyKit-using application to be ported. For more information, have a look at the feature page: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Features/PolicyKitOne It also has pointers to api docs and a (terse) porting guide. We already have a collection of patches for quite a few PolicyKit-using apps, so the transitions should be relatively painless. Matthias

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Empathy in F12
by Matthias Clasen 09 Jun '09

09 Jun '09

Hi, in the past, we have delayed switching to empathy as the default IM client, because it seemed not ready [1]. Meanwhile, many of the UI glitches that caused the initial negative review have been fixed and empathy is growing interesting features like video chat [2] and geolocation [3]. Ubuntu is going to do the same switch this cycle which should lead to some synergy in getting remaining issues fixed. I think we should pick this up again for F12, and see how it goes. I wanted to say 'lets do the switch in time for alpha', but considering there may be no alpha, lets just do the switch when the next empathy release happens (which should be sometime next week). Matthias [1] http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Features/Empathy [2] http://people.collabora.co.uk/~xclaesse/screenshot/empathy-call.png [3] http://blog.pierlux.com/2009/01/22/empathy-where-are-you/en/

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