desktop spin growth issues
by Matthias Clasen
So, in preparation for next weeks test day, we've looked at the state of
the desktop spin in rawhide. After some complications, Adam managed to
produce an iso, which actually boots into runlevel 3. X seems busted.
But a console is good enough to do some basic investigation, so I've
looked at size issues with this snapshot:
The good news first: We've managed to get rid of the gnome-print stack
on the live cd.
The bad news is that we are still considerably overweight. Here is what
I found when I compared the snapshot with the F11 desktop spin:
iso size: 691MB -> 716MB
packages: 989 -> 1027
The kernel grew 69MB -> 81MB - is this all debugging stuff ?
Some big new pkgs:
webkitgtk 18MB - pulled in by empathy
libicu 19MB - pulled in by webkitgtk
atlas 12MB - pulled in by pygtk2 via numpy
boost 12MB - pulled in by gnote; all of boost gets pulled in here,
even though gnote only requires boost-filesystem: bug #496188
So, we'll have to do some dieting to regain iso shape...
Matthias
14 years, 9 months
Re: Raising the bar
by Paul W. Frields
On Tue, Jun 30, 2009 at 10:45:19AM +0100, Andrew Haley wrote:
> Matthias Clasen wrote:
>
> > we'd like to announce the 'Fit and Finish' initiative for Fedora,
> >
> > http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Fit_and_Finish
> >
> > with the goal to improve the user experience of the Fedora desktop. We
> > want to identify the small (and sometimes large) roadblocks that make
> > everyday computer use harder than it needs to be, and try to fix them.
>
> In Ubuntu there's a "Help" button on the top menu bar that leads to a
> nice help application, yelp. We have that app too, but it doesn't
> seem to have the same contents, which are:
>
> New to Ubuntu?
> Adding and Removing Software
> Files, Folders and Documents
> Customising Your Desktop
> Internet
> Music, Videos and Photos
> Assistive Tools
> Keeping Your Computer Safe
> Printing, Faxing and Scanning
> Advanced Topics
>
> And under each section there's a clear explanation of what to do.
> Maybe we have something equivalent for Fedora, but I can't find it.
Perhaps this is something you could raise separately with the Fedora
Docs team. I'm just getting back from some travel during which I
caught wind of some new documentation standards being produced by the
GNOME docs community to make documentation more task-based, with which
I agree whole-heartedly. Also, our own Docs team is working on
providing an easy way for people to retrieve and install
language-specific documentation such as a user guide which would
integrate into the desktop menu system. (I'm pretty sure that
integration is desktop environment-neutral.) The confluence of those
two developments might provide some better docs at the desktop level.
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14 years, 9 months
RE: Fedora Desktop
by Hristo Petkov
Hi Guys,
Talking about performance I found when looking through the file system that I have 4 pythons installed on my system (one with the system, 2.4 and 2.5) and one more, and I cannot remove anyone of them because they are bound to different applications.
In my view if F12 is released with 'standard' python compiler and all the applications are recompiled on it the performance might be improved.
The same is with the perl interpreter - I have two perls and it is very exciting, but it may not be very healthy from the point of view of system performance.
Anyway, the system (F10 with some upgrades to F11) is performing pretty well and maybe it is able of better performance in case the problem with the compilers is unified somehow.
Best regards,
Hristo Petkov
14 years, 9 months