desktop September 2009

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17 discussions

XCF Pixbuf Loader
by Debarshi Ray 29 Oct '09

29 Oct '09

http://blog.reblochon.org/2009/03/gift-to-competition.html Is it a good idea to package it? Or has it been intentionally been kept out due to other plans? Cheers, Debarshi -- One reason that life is complex is that it has a real part and an imaginary part. -- Andrew Koenig

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A new notification theme
by Matthias Clasen 02 Oct '09

02 Oct '09

Tomorrows rawhide will have a new notification theme for Gnome. The aim of this new theme is to integrate well with the theming in the rest of the desktop (which wasn't really the case with nodoka bubbles and a clearlooks desktop). Let me know how the new bubbles work for you; this is the initial release, so there is probably some fine-tuning left to do. In other bubble news, the amount of notifications that get emitted by NM, g-p-m and packagekit should be noticeably reduced, compared to F11. Matthias

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long running sessions, restarts, etc.
by Bill Nottingham 01 Oct '09

01 Oct '09

With the move to more mobile devices (laptops, etc.), we're more likely to have very long-running sessions that are just suspended and resumed, as opposed to a workstation that is logged out every day. This means that for me on rawhide, my session is often much longer-lived than my software set, as I'll have a two-week session that is running older code that I've long since upgraded past. Even for those on an actual release, this can be an issue given our update stream. For system-level services, we have the idea of try-restart on upgrades; if the service is running, we automatically restart it on upgrade. How can we implement this sanely for session/desktop services? For example, in my session I see: gvfsd obex-client/obex-data-server evolution-data-server packagekitd notification-daemon any number of status icons (volume control, gpk, g-p-m, etc.) ... and more I'm forgetting ... Since very few of these have state, can't we implement a framework where they automatically get restarted on upgrade? Bill

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Thoughts on updates
by William Jon McCann 30 Sep '09

30 Sep '09

Hi, Since it has come up recently, I figured I'd briefly mention that some people in the desktop team, QE, and release engineering had a few lunchtime chats about our update process. I tried to write down some of what we talked about: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Desktop/Whiteboards/UpdateExperience I later found out that there are a number of different initiatives underway that may help with this problem. So, that is good news. Interested to hear your thoughts. Thanks, Jon

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GDM Login Screen
by Frank Murphy 23 Sep '09

23 Sep '09

Apologies for noise. Google hasn't helped. or main list How can I get rid of "Other" user Will future ugrades\updates remove this by default? -- Regards, Frank jabber | msn | skype: frankly3d http://www.frankly3d.com

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A less cluttered desktop
by Matthias Clasen 21 Sep '09

21 Sep '09

In anticipation of the corresponding upstream change, I have just built a change to the GConf schemas in libgnome to not show icons in menus and buttons by default anymore. This change may take a little while to get used to, but I hope that most people will come around and appreciate the less cluttered desktop. Feedback appreciated. Matthias

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kill Preferences -> GL Desktop?
by Marius Andreiana 21 Sep '09

21 Sep '09

Didn't know what GL Desktop is, so I clicked it. I was already using compiz, with preferences set in Compiz Settings Manager (ccsm). On start, GL Desktop says An error occurred while loading or saving configuration information for gnome-compiz-preferences. Some of your configuration settings may not work properly. Seems it has a subset of Compiz Settings Manager options. Why does GL Desktop still need to be kept? Thanks, -- Marius Andreiana

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logging out from keyboard / logout UX
by Marius Andreiana 21 Sep '09

21 Sep '09

Hi, Trying to log out from the default keyboard shortcut, but can't :) see http://tinypic.com/r/29gbvc/4 Besides the Log out dialog not having a Log out button, I don't know what Cancel does in the middle of the other choices. I also attached the Win 7 ctrl+alt+del dialog, their UX is quite good this time: http://tinypic.com/r/w7cvn8/4 Could it be used as an inspiration? PS: While processing the image with GIMP, on a save dialog I also saw Cancel in the middle of other choices. I've been away from Linux for 2 years, is this a new standard? -- Marius Andreiana -- Marius Andreiana

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logging out from keyboard / logout UX
by Marius Andreiana 20 Sep '09

20 Sep '09

Hi, Trying to log out from the default keyboard shortcut, but can't :) (see attached). Besides the Log out dialog not having a Log out button, I don't know what Cancel does in the middle of the other choices. I also attached the Win 7 ctrl+alt+del dialog, their UX is quite good this time (will send as a separate attach, my initial message still awaits moderator approval). Could it be used as an inspiration? PS: While processing the image with GIMP, on a save dialog I also saw Cancel in the middle of other choices. I've been away from Linux for 2 years, hope this isn't the new standard. -- Marius Andreiana

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NetworkManager & keyring
by Marius Andreiana 19 Sep '09

19 Sep '09

After a few days of using a fresh F11 setup, upon login I was told nm-applet wants to access default keyring, but it's locked. Enter password. Hm. Don't know what password. Tried my account and root password, no luck. Searched help for how to change keyring password, nope. Ah, found Preferences -> Encryption and Keyrings, that will help. Uhm... no. Tried a restart, same question. Tried to add another network connection to get my net working, but still NM wants to know the default keyring password. I want that too :) Finally I tried my initial account password used on install (which I changed a few days later), that was it! Could this behaviour be changed to: when a keyring needs to be setup, prompt user with a dialog explaining what a keyring is and ask for a password. (about my recent posts - I've been influenced in the last 2 years by working together with a few professional UX folks. However, I'm not a person with UX studies/certifications. I just hope to show you the experience of a new Linux user) -- Marius Andreiana

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