desktop February 2011

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F15 Alpha RC2 available for desktop validation
by Adam Williamson 03 Mar '11

03 Mar '11

Hey, folks - just a note that Alpha RC2 is now available: http://serverbeach1.fedoraproject.org/pub/alt/stage/15-Alpha.RC2/ and help to fill out the desktop validation tests: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Test_Results:Fedora_15_Alpha_RC2_Desktop would be greatly welcome. As always, just follow the instructions in the test cases and record your results in the tables, and let me know if you have any trouble or questions. If anyone's wondering about LXDE, it hasn't been spun yet because gmixer was orphaned; we should sort that out with rel-eng. Thanks everyone! -- Adam Williamson Fedora QA Community Monkey IRC: adamw | Fedora Talk: adamwill AT fedoraproject DOT org http://www.happyassassin.net

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Old Gnome - New Gnome
by Clyde E. Kunkel 01 Mar '11

01 Mar '11

It seems that if you have a common home directory that you reuse from fedora version to fedora version, you cannot automatically go into the gnome shell in F15 Alpha gnome 3. I have a home directory that has been around since about Fedora 6. I don't know what all you have to eliminate--I just cleared out all gconf* gnome* gtk* metacity folders and now Fedora 15 RC2 goes into the shell when logging on to the desktop. Before I had to issue a gnome-shell --replace in a terminal. I wonder what other problems reusing was/is causing? -- Regards, OldFart

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Missing desktop icons and installation
by drago01 28 Feb '11

28 Feb '11

Now that we no longer display desktop icons by default it is not obvious on how to install the operating system, as there is no longer a "Install to Hardisk" icon on the desktop. So the live cd does no longer promote any install option. I am wondering on why nobody noticed that till now and the obvious question is what should we do? Adding the desktop icons back is obviously not what we want, but I don't have any suggestion other than temporary display it and remove it post install. Toughs? Suggestions?

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How do we change fonts now
by Clyde E. Kunkel 28 Feb '11

28 Feb '11

Please, oh please, someone tell me how to change the fonts in gnome 3 now. My old eyes, even with glasses and a magnifying glass are starting to hurt. TIA -- Regards, OldFart

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Re: Please review potential blockers for F15 Alpha
by Adam Williamson 19 Feb '11

19 Feb '11

On Sat, 2011-02-19 at 06:12 +1000, Dave Airlie wrote: > On Fri, 2011-02-18 at 11:50 -0800, Adam Williamson wrote: > > Hey, folks. At the blocker review meeting today we agreed that we were > > not in a position to decide on the status of these potential blockers: > > > > https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=677842 > > https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=677371 > > > > they apparently cause an unusable system as Shell repeatedly crashes and > > fallback mode does not kick in. We are unsure of the extent of the > > impact; several different reporters seem to have hit these (including > > the Chinese install testers, though they didn't add a comment to the > > bug, they mentioned it in their test report). > > Looks like all post r600 ATI cards would be affected, something must > have changed in mutter to trigger this, the quickest solution I can see > at the moment is to rebase mesa and pray. If you want a targeted fix > it'll take longer to actually work out why its going so horribly wrong. Thanks for the info! Can you quantify 'longer'? If we delayed Alpha by a week, would that be enough time? -- Adam Williamson Fedora QA Community Monkey IRC: adamw | Fedora Talk: adamwill AT fedoraproject DOT org http://www.happyassassin.net

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Please review potential blockers for F15 Alpha
by Adam Williamson 18 Feb '11

18 Feb '11

Hey, folks. At the blocker review meeting today we agreed that we were not in a position to decide on the status of these potential blockers: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=677842 https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=677371 they apparently cause an unusable system as Shell repeatedly crashes and fallback mode does not kick in. We are unsure of the extent of the impact; several different reporters seem to have hit these (including the Chinese install testers, though they didn't add a comment to the bug, they mentioned it in their test report). Can you please take a look and see if you can provide any additional information on these bugs so we can evaluate their blocker-iness? Thanks! -- Adam Williamson Fedora QA Community Monkey IRC: adamw | Fedora Talk: adamwill AT fedoraproject DOT org http://www.happyassassin.net

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tracker bug for failed fallback created
by Adam Williamson 17 Feb '11

17 Feb '11

Hey, folks. Just a note that I set up a tracker bug for known cases where trying to start GNOME 3 results in something totally unusable - Shell fails and fallback does not work correctly. So far there's a couple of bugs blocking it. The tracker is https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=678116 , it has the alias F15GNOMEfail. Please add any appropriate bugs to it, for convenience. thanks! -- Adam Williamson Fedora QA Community Monkey IRC: adamw | Fedora Talk: adamwill AT fedoraproject DOT org http://www.happyassassin.net

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Font changes / Cantarell
by Jared K. Smith 17 Feb '11

17 Feb '11

I know that Gnome is using Cantarell as its default font, and it seems that something has changed in Fedora to make Cantarell the default font for all desktops. I heard from the KDE SIG this morning that there is some confusion as to whether that was intended to be a global change, or a change only for the Gnome desktop. I don't pretend to have a clue when it comes to fonts or the fontconfig stuff -- but I'd like to kick off this discussion so that there is less confusion and that nobody tries to ascribe to malice that which can be explained by miscommunication. Is there someone that understands the change that can fill me in on the missing details? -- Jared Smith Fedora Project Leader

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RFE: Restart option inside Gnome Shell
by Michael Cronenworth 16 Feb '11

16 Feb '11

Hello, During the first week of February, I had downloaded a Fedora 15 nightly Live CD ISO. After booting into the Live image from my USB stick and testing some of the new Fedora 15 features, I desired to restart my computer and return to my Fedora 14 installation on my SSD drives. Upon searching throughout the Gnome Shell I found no option to restart. I did not want to shut down my computer. I felt trapped in Gnome Shell. I request a restart option in Gnome Shell. A restart option has been necessary functionality for computers since before I was born. If usage cases are necessary I will provide a few below: -Reinitialize hardware that has frozen Some USB devices or PCI-based devices lockup and require a restart to reinitialize. -Live CD images. Users running Fedora temporarily do not need to shut down and power off the hardware. A Restart is the only option necessary. -Software updates Kernel updates require a system reboot. I do not need to shut down and power off my hardware to perform this. -Customer support When dealing with less-informed computer users, it is sometimes necessary to walk them through a restart of the system. They do not need to power off the hardware (and sometimes they do not know how to power on their hardware). Thanks, Michael P.S. I realize there is the "reboot" shell command, or "shutdown -r" command, however, this is a non-aesthetic solution.

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gnome shell compatible vga cards
by Clyde E. Kunkel 15 Feb '11

15 Feb '11

Hello, I am wondering if: 01:00.0 VGA compatible controller: ATI Technologies Inc RV630 [Radeon HD 2600 Series] is acceptable for the new gnome shell? It seems to work sometimes, and at other times not. For example, it was working in rawhide (I could get a shell, anyway), but now it does not work, nor has it ever worked in F15Alpha TC1. Is there a "better" vga card for the shell in the radeon series? Is there an utility that can be run to check if the VGA card is supported in gnome 3. TIA -- Regards, OldFart

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