Default Services in the Fedora Workstation
by Elad Alfassa
Hi.
Does the "Fedora Workstation" vision means we can disable (or even remove)
all enterprise stuff (nfs, iscsi, and lots of other pointless services for
desktops) by default in our product?
Can we, for example, ask the Anacoda team to make dependencies on
enterprise-class storage optional, thus enabling us to not ship it by
default on the workstation product?
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10 years, 4 months
Re: New default Lock screen wallpaper
by Máirín Duffy
Well u can't expect all users to do that.
Sent from my phone, which is not an iphone.
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From: Matthew Miller <mattdm(a)fedoraproject.org>
Date:11/09/2013 4:24 PM (GMT-05:00)
To: Discussions about development for the Fedora desktop <desktop(a)lists.fedoraproject.org>
Subject: Re: New default Lock screen wallpaper
On Sat, Nov 09, 2013 at 04:19:24PM -0500, Máirín Duffy wrote:
> Fwiw I saw it on Ray's screen (samsung ativ book) and on Ryan's screens
> (lenovo thinkpad and dell ips.) On Ryans screens it did look broken, like
> a messed up alpha channel or an over-aggressively-indexed color mode. On
> Ray's screen it looked more intentional. It had a brown tint on Ryans and
> a green tint on Rays.
>
> On Ray's screen, it kind of looks like a multicolor digital quilt. On
> Ryans it looks the same except someone spilled coffee in the lower left
> corner. And the coffee color is very contrasty with the rest.
Hmmm. Would Ryan like to borrow my ColorHug? :)
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10 years, 4 months
Re: New default Lock screen wallpaper
by Máirín Duffy
Fwiw I saw it on Ray's screen (samsung ativ book) and on Ryan's screens (lenovo thinkpad and dell ips.) On Ryans screens it did look broken, like a messed up alpha channel or an over-aggressively-indexed color mode. On Ray's screen it looked more intentional. It had a brown tint on Ryans and a green tint on Rays.
On Ray's screen, it kind of looks like a multicolor digital quilt. On Ryans it looks the same except someone spilled coffee in the lower left corner. And the coffee color is very contrasty with the rest.
Sent from my phone, which is not an iphone.
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From: Matthew Miller <mattdm(a)fedoraproject.org>
Date:11/09/2013 2:08 PM (GMT-05:00)
To: Discussions about development for the Fedora desktop <desktop(a)lists.fedoraproject.org>
Subject: Re: New default Lock screen wallpaper
On Thu, Nov 07, 2013 at 09:39:01AM -0500, Ryan Lerch wrote:
> But if it is rendering as intended... fair enough.
FWIW (very little, I know) I think it's pretty.
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10 years, 4 months
Workstation product kernel requirements
by Josh Boyer
Hi All,
My apologies for sending this out so late compared to the other
product queries. I will simply claim that I hope the current Fedora
kernel is already meeting desktop/workstation needs and my delay was
partially because of that ;).
At any rate, the kernel team would like to know what you see as the
requirements for the Workstation product. Thus far the discussions
with the other product groups has mostly centered around packaging
changes. I would imagine Workstation doesn't particularly suffer from
anything in the current packaging, and could likely share a common
packaging scheme with Server for the most part. However, if that
isn't the case please let us know what you'd like to see from a
packaging standpoint, keeping in mind we want a single main kernel
package across all 3 products as much as possible.
On IRC, Matthias mentioned some issues around interactivity and I/O.
If there are other things like that, please speak to those as well.
Thanks for your time.
josh
10 years, 4 months
Power saving by default in Fedora Desktop
by Elad Alfassa
Hi all.
It'd be awesome if we could make sure default Fedora Workstation will have
"laptop mode" on by default.
Right now I need to run a script that changes many power tunables (got the
list from powertop) to save battery on my laptop. It should be default.
Perhaps detect if the machine is on-battery and if so enable all power
saving features (disable watchdog, increase the
vm_dirty_writeback_centisecs value, and so on)?
Can this be part of upower? Can we have a setting in Settings for that?
(Something like "Enable power saving when on battery (decreases
performance)"?
slightly off-topic to the main subject of this email, I was wondering:
perhaps we should make gnome-shell automatically raise the nice and ionice
values (ie. lower the priority) of unfocused windows, so that a focused
window will always get priority for I/O and processor time (thus increasing
the perceived performance of the system)
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10 years, 4 months
My input: Case 4: Developer in a Large Organization
by Jimmy Dorff
“Case 4” in the Product Description is the most important for me. The is
where I work in a university, but I know some commercial orgs that work
similarly. My developers are writing code and analyzing data. They are not
building or contributing to Fedora. Key tools are C, C++, python, R,
Matlab, Octave, plus git and svn.
We use enterprise logins (ldap + MIT krb5). Desktops are NFS clients, data
is stored on file servers. Desktops often have multiple displays.
Desktops are professionally managed. The level of developer admin is going
to vary based on the organization. Generally the developer isn’t
installing the workstation. Home directories are centrally stored and
preserved across updates.
In summary:
* enterprise logins (large numbers of users and groups)
* network filesystems (NFS, SMB, etc..)
* centralized network and desktop management (lots of great tools exist)
Cheers,
Jimmy
10 years, 4 months
Power saving settings of GDM in Fedora 20
by Sergio Pascual
Hi,
if I log out of the gnome session, my monitor does not put itself in power
saving mode after a time. It used to do it in F19. I suppose this is
related with the power saving settings of the gdm user, whick spawns the
login screen.
I have updated from F19 to F20 via fedup. I do not know if this affects my
system only, everything updated via fedup or all F20 installs.
Regards, Sergio
10 years, 4 months
Draft Product Description for Fedora Workstation
by Christian Schaller
Hi everyone,
Attached is the draft PRD for the Workstation working group. The
proposal tries to be relatively high level and focus on goals and
principles, but I have included some concrete examples at times to try
to provide some clarity on how the goals and principles could play out
in practice.
I hope the community at large will take the time to read through it and
provide feedback so that when the working group meet next we can use
that feedback to start tuning in on the final form of the PRD.
Also in the name of openness, before I sent this here, I showed the PRD
draft to key stakeholders and decision makers inside Red Hat, to ensure
that we have the necessary support for these plans to get the kind of
engineering resources allocated from Red Hat we will need to pull this
off.
Sincerely,
Christian F.K. Schaller
P.S. I am celebrating both our wedding anniversary and my wifes birthday
this weekend so I will not be able to be online a lot. That said I will
make the time to go online to check my email from time to time so that I
can respond to any questions that has come in, just don't expect
immediate answers from me this weekend :)
10 years, 4 months