Next meeting reschedule?
by Paul W. Frields
Our next meeting is scheduled for Monday, May 25. This is a USA
holiday, and most folks here tend to celebrate it AFK. My bet is many
people wouldn't be available for our meeting. (That includes
Yrs. Truly.)
WG members, should we reschedule this, or just cancel it?
If we want to reschedule, I'd suggest a one-time-only return to the
old time, Wed 2015-May-27 at either 1500 UTC (11am US/Eastern). The
meeting would return to the regular timeslot on 2015-Jun-08.
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8 years, 10 months
Fixing express install for F23
by Paul W. Frields
https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1178787
The removal of the separate Workstation DVD and netinst had some
fallout with Boxes. It looks like this bug lay dormant after
February, which is too bad because there was still time to fix things
for F22 at that point. But we should see what to do about this
situation for F23.
My recollection is the WG opted for getting rid of the separate
Workstation installation DVD and netinst in favor of the Live image
only. But this causes issuses with Boxes/libosinfo express install of
Fedora.
One way to fix that would be to bring them back -- essentially go back
to producing the images we offered before. That doesn't mean we need
to advertise them on the website, though. What are the other
alternatives for fixing?
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8 years, 11 months
Fedora 22 update security
by Thiyagarajan, Nethaji
Hello,
I find that the update utility in Fedora is not like in their previous versions I have used (at least until Fedora 20).
The system notifies that there are updates and when the user clicks ok to install the updates, it usually asks for the root or system administrator's password to authorize the update. However, it is strange to see in Fedora 22 that no such security is available.
Any normal user could easily install the updates that include kernel, X11 and all system related installs without the need for the system administrator. This might disrupt or falsify if some settings are done by the system administrator.
Is this bug going to be fixed or the Fedora community is going more toward Microsoft Windows OS like theme of installing the updates without the need for the system administrator.
I hope that this is not the future of Fedora. Fedora is unique in its way and I see that it is adopting more like Microsoft Windows display theme including menus.
Thanks
Nethaji
8 years, 11 months
Evolution and Fedora 21 or 22 Kernel 3.19 and above
by Nethaji
Hello,
I use Evolution mail client and when I updated from Fedora 20 to 21 or
did a fresh install of Fedora 21 workstation, I have problem with
evolution restoring my backup file or reading local emails previously
saved on the system.
The folders are mounted from a remote location in cifs format using
either autofs or fstab.
There are two issues with this.
1. It mounts the remote path and displays the folder to be 0 size, but
normally it shows 4096 for a directory. When I do 'ls -i' the inodes are
shown properly.
2. The files prior to update or installation in these folders,
especially evolution are not accessible even through 'vi' after mount
the file system on a client.
3. I tested this with Debian and Ubuntu (the latest available OS for
both) and see the same result, except for Ubuntu, which in evolution
opens the saved emails properly.
I think the problem is with the kernel version from 3.19.5-200.fc21.i686
+PAE, ignore PAE. It is the same with a non-PAE kernel.
I tested on the following kernels and to that I put the commands that
worked.
Kernel - 3.19.5-200.fc21.i686+PAE (Fedora 21)
Kernal - 4.0.0 or 4.0.1 or 4.0.2 (Fedora 22)
Kernel - 2.6.32-358.23.2.el6.x86_64 (Redhat Enterprise Linux 6)
Kernel - 3.2.0-4-486 (Debian)
Kernel - 3.16.0-30-generic (Ubuntu 14.04 LTS)
Evolution version - Ubuntu: 3.10, Fedora21: 3.12
Attached with this email are two snapshots of email display from Ubuntu
and Fedora 21. The same effect is seen in Fedora 22.
While Ubuntu can display the locally saved email, Fedora says permission
denied or no such file or directory.
The text file 'FedoraCIFSshare.txt' is a summary of what I get when I
'vi' or 'cat' on the saved emails. When I do the same in Ubuntu,
Enterprise Linux or Debian, I can open the files using both the email
client and text editors.
This problem does not even let me to save any new mails into these
folders (i.e. locally) as they cannot be seen again. This is the same
for Drafts too.
This only happens on a CIFS mounted folders and not on local folders
(the folders on the system's harddrive).
The cifs share is mounted using the command or using autofs
mount -t cifs //server/home /home/user -o username=myname
The same command is used in Debian, Ubuntu and Enterprise linux.
Everything works as expected except on Fedora 21 and Fedora 22. Even on
Fedora 20 with kernel 3.19
Thanks
Nethaji
8 years, 11 months
Council Engineering update
by Josh Boyer
Hi Workstation WG,
As part of the on-going Council updates, I'm organizing a Fedora
Engineering update. This includes the various WGs, rel-eng,
infrastructure, and a few others. The idea behind this is to give a
brief update of the work your group is doing towards the F23 and F24
releases. Think of this as a 5-10 minute "lightning talk" of the
highlights you want to see in those releases.
The meeting is July 7th. It would be excellent if you could have a
volunteer present the update for your group and stay around to answer
any questions. Worst case, please gather the information and send it
to me and I can do the overview, but representation from the group is
clearly preferred.
If you have questions, please let me know. The idea and format are
somewhat new, so we'll work through this as best we can.
josh
8 years, 11 months
Official Fedora Survey 2015
by Diogo Campos
I have seen things like these recently:
1-
https://blogs.gnome.org/uraeus/2015/05/07/summary-of-fedora-workstation-f...
2-
https://lists.fedoraproject.org/pipermail/desktop/2015-April/011897.html
3-
https://lists.fedoraproject.org/pipermail/desktop/2015-April/011860.html
4-
http://otroblogdegnu-linux.blogspot.com.br/2015/05/do-you-want-gnome-twea...
5- Someone (Mathew Miller?) saying that Fedora should have something
like this:
http://blog.brackets.io/2015/03/27/introducing-brackets-health-report/
(these are my words, can not find the original message).
So, I was wondering... There is interest in a "Official Fedora Survey
2015" thing?
Because I can (and I want to) do something about it.
I am thinking in something to expose the concrete
needs/difficulties/desires from real users (especially from those who
care) about Fedora (and Linuxes, and OSes) in a useful, understandable,
and more precise way.
If yes, please, say it, so I can show/catch ideas and work on a demo.
And, if not, please, say it too, because I kinda don't want to waste my
time on an useless thing.
Thanks.
8 years, 11 months
Fedora Health Report
by Diogo Campos
Hi again.
You've probably seen this:
https://lists.fedoraproject.org/pipermail/desktop/2015-May/012069.html
But we have to agree that, if useful, its usefulness is a bit limited.
I also said in that e-mail, that there is mentions of desire (by
someone, somewhere - can't remember, sorry) of a Fedora equivalent of
this:
http://blog.brackets.io/2015/03/27/introducing-brackets-health-report/
(my words).
But I ignored this possibility, at first, because I thought that it was
something way out of my skills.
Turns out I realized that I know a bit of Node.js :P
So, now, I'm kinda interested in making this too, but I am not really
sure of how to do it :/
Probably the basic stuff can be covered by this:
https://nodejs.org/api/os.html
But beyond that, especially about (possible) Fedora specific details
(like SELinux), I'm totally lost.
So, in this e-mail, I am asking for confirmation that there is interest
on this, and also asking for a bit of (general) technical advice.
Could someone kindly provide me any of these?
8 years, 11 months
Re: Testing request: gdm-on-Wayland on hybrid graphics laptops (esp. Macbooks)
by Adam Williamson
On Thu, 2015-05-14 at 16:17 -0400, Paul Wouters wrote:
> I had gdm issues on my f19 to f22beta upgrade too. Startx worked.
> Worse, the lock screen cannot unlock. Claims wrong passwd. Killing
> Xorg just led to restarted locked screen. Only way out was init 1
Thanks for the report, but I'd like to keep things precise and clear so
we don't confuse ourselves: is this a system with dual GPUs? When you
say 'GDM issues', do you have the same symptom as Chris (boot to a
black screen)? If you edit /etc/gdm/custom.conf and uncomment the line:
#WaylandEnable=false
and reboot, does it start working? Thanks! (same questions for all
testers...)
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8 years, 11 months
