tracker
by Chris Murphy
Hi,
I don't often have to compile things, but today compiling a kernel and
I see tracker-* stuff soaking the CPU at 100% for several of these
things and piles of messages in the journal.
Is there a way to tweak this by default? Maybe have it only index when
the computer isn't being used? Maybe not at all when so many temporary
changes are happening all at the same time like during compiling? I
shouldn't have to know to create an embargoed area within my home
directory to keep this tracker thing from going nuts like this. If I
should file an upstream RFE let me know what component to set it
against, the default behavior is not friendly in my opinion - kinda
reminds me of OS X Spotlight.
Thanks,
--
Chris Murphy
8 years, 1 month
Upgrades to F24 via dnf
by Michael Catanzaro
Hi,
Seems my effort to deduplicate @gnome-desktop and @fedora-workstation
got reverted again, because it breaks upgrades from F23 -> F24 via dnf
when @gnome-desktop is not installed, which is the expected and default
case. dnf wants to remove all of GNOME because it's no longer present
in @fedora-workstation, and @gnome-desktop is not already installed.
I don't think we want to continue to maintain these groups separately,
it leads to many "bugs" (unexpected differences) between the two
groups, with developers accidentally editing one but not the other. So:
does anyone have any suggestions to avoid this problem?
The best solution I could come up with is to simply tell users to 'sudo
dnf install @gnome-desktop' before upgrading with dnf, and list this on
the known problems wiki page. Since gnome-software is now our default
and expected method for upgrading Fedora Workstation, I think it's OK
for there to be some hiccups when upgrading with dnf, but it would
still be really nice to have some way to handle this automatically...
could we somehow make the one group depend on the other, for instance?
How does gnome-software handle this issue?
Michael
8 years, 1 month
f24-backgrounds ready for testing
by Luya Tshimbalanga
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f24-backgrounds package is submitted for testing on F24 repository. At
this time of writing the status is on pending.
Please let know if there is any bug to address.
https://bodhi.fedoraproject.org/updates/FEDORA-2016-9506354e5b
P.S.: It looks like Softpedia already posted an article related on
wallpaper:
http://news.softpedia.com/news/fedora-24-linux-default-wallpaper-revealed...
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Luya Tshimbalanga
Graphic & Web Designer
E: luya(a)fedoraproject.org
W: http://www.coolest-storm.net
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8 years, 1 month
Workstation WG special edition meeting recap 2016-Mar-09
by Paul W. Frields
Minutes: https://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-meeting/2016-03-09/workstation.2...
Minutes (text): https://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-meeting/2016-03-09/workstation.2...
Log: https://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-meeting/2016-03-09/workstation.2...
* * *
=================================================
#fedora-meeting: Workstation WG (Special Edition)
=================================================
Meeting started by stickster at 15:00:01 UTC. The full logs are
available at
https://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-meeting/2016-03-09/workstation.2...
.
Meeting summary
---------------
* Roll call (stickster, 15:00:08)
* Wayland (LIMIT: 15 MINUTES) (stickster, 15:03:25)
* LINK: https://blogs.gnome.org/mclasen/ (mcatanzaro, 15:05:11)
* AGREED: Wayland is not default for F24; freeze exception not needed,
thank you halfline for change JIT (stickster, 15:07:58)
* Third party software proposal (stickster, 15:09:20)
* LINK:
https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Workstation/Third_party_software_proposal
(stickster, 15:09:40)
* cschaller provided this draft with notes from other WG members, but
it's not complete yet (stickster, 15:10:47)
* We need a better description of a decision process for configuring
sources/repos (stickster, 15:28:28)
* IDEA: stickster thinks, after we have this draft in shape, we should
be sharing/consulting with Council first since this doc represents
change in the way Fedora deals with upstream, which goes quite
outside how we build Fedora itself (stickster, 15:29:48)
* mcatanzaro notes that the portal definition (which allows xdg-apps
to touch resources outside the sandbox) isn't complete, and needs to
be before they're usable upstream (stickster, 15:31:18)
* ACTION: mclasen try to locate screenshot of *draft* Software
implementation of labeling, with understanding it's still under
review/change (stickster, 15:43:32)
* ACTION: stickster Break out topics of uncertainty in the draft to
separate list threads so we can resolve in the draft (stickster,
15:44:15)
* ACTION: stickster Go over draft again with an editorial eye to
simplify and clarify language (stickster, 15:44:34)
* LINK: https://plus.google.com/+RichardHughes/posts/LkctoSAA8EF maybe
? (mclasen, 15:44:43)
* This draft will be the subject of future WG agendas, so all WG
members' time is needed to review and contribute (stickster,
15:51:10)
* Open floor (stickster, 15:51:24)
* PulseAudio flat volumes have been disabled in F24 based on Wim's
input (stickster, 15:53:33)
* LINK: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1265267#c27
(stickster, 15:53:36)
* ACTION: stickster Put PulseAudio flat volumes on next week's agenda
first (stickster, 16:01:03)
* ACTION: mcatanzaro to invite some PulseAudio folks to next week's
meeting (mcatanzaro, 16:01:07)
Meeting ended at 16:02:18 UTC.
Action Items
------------
* mclasen try to locate screenshot of *draft* Software implementation of
labeling, with understanding it's still under review/change
* stickster Break out topics of uncertainty in the draft to separate
list threads so we can resolve in the draft
* stickster Go over draft again with an editorial eye to simplify and
clarify language
* stickster Put PulseAudio flat volumes on next week's agenda first
* mcatanzaro to invite some PulseAudio folks to next week's meeting
Action Items, by person
-----------------------
* mcatanzaro
* mcatanzaro to invite some PulseAudio folks to next week's meeting
* mclasen
* mclasen try to locate screenshot of *draft* Software implementation
of labeling, with understanding it's still under review/change
* stickster
* stickster Break out topics of uncertainty in the draft to separate
list threads so we can resolve in the draft
* stickster Go over draft again with an editorial eye to simplify and
clarify language
* stickster Put PulseAudio flat volumes on next week's agenda first
* **UNASSIGNED**
* (none)
People Present (lines said)
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* stickster (89)
* mcatanzaro (28)
* mclasen (17)
* otaylor (13)
* zodbot (9)
* kalev (8)
* jwb (8)
* rdieter (7)
* linuxmodder (2)
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Workstation WG meeting recap 2016-Mar-02
by Paul W. Frields
Minutes: https://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-meeting/2016-03-02/workstation.2...
Minutes (text): https://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-meeting/2016-03-02/workstation.2...
Log: https://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-meeting/2016-03-02/workstation.2...
* * *
===============================
#fedora-meeting: Workstation WG
===============================
Meeting started by stickster at 15:00:00 UTC. The full logs are
available at
https://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-meeting/2016-03-02/workstation.2...
.
Meeting summary
---------------
* Roll call (stickster, 15:00:03)
* PulseAudio flat volumes (stickster, 15:04:33)
* LINK: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1265267
(stickster, 15:04:53)
* LINK: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1265267#c2
(stickster, 15:12:49)
* ACTION: cschalle_ check in with Wim to move forward his flat-volume
fixes upstream, and get estimate on upstreaming (stickster,
15:22:46)
* ACTION: mcatanzaro Remind stickster to put this on agenda four weeks
out ;-) to revisit (stickster, 15:23:30)
* Wayland - user marketing (stickster, 15:23:54)
* LINK:
https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/desktop@lists.fedoraproject...
(stickster, 15:24:01)
* Really the list that mattdm included is roughly all there is to say
for general users (stickster, 15:33:55)
* Wayland F24 default go/no-go (stickster, 15:38:09)
* stickster didn't put this on agenda but makes sense to discuss now
so we're clear on what to do for Alpha freeze 2016-Mar-08
(stickster, 15:38:45)
* ACTION: mclasen blog on "why Wayland anyway?" (stickster, 15:39:40)
* ACTION: stickster crib from aforementioned blog to write up talking
point for Marketing/Ambassadors (stickster, 15:39:56)
* mclasen advises some blockers remaining, specifically text proto for
the onscreen keyboard, and accessibility features remain undone atm
(stickster, 15:50:31)
* Unresolved on Wayland 24 default (+11: 3, -1: 1, +0: 2) (stickster,
16:03:41)
* AGREED: We will resolve this fully next week, in addition to
third-party content discussion (stickster, 16:05:42)
* AGREED: , default can stay right now but we will be deciding next
week on freeze exception to change back to X11, if needed
(stickster, 16:06:32)
Meeting ended at 16:07:50 UTC.
Action Items
------------
* cschalle_ check in with Wim to move forward his flat-volume fixes
upstream, and get estimate on upstreaming
* mcatanzaro Remind stickster to put this on agenda four weeks out ;-)
to revisit
* mclasen blog on "why Wayland anyway?"
* stickster crib from aforementioned blog to write up talking point for
Marketing/Ambassadors
Action Items, by person
-----------------------
* cschalle_
* cschalle_ check in with Wim to move forward his flat-volume fixes
upstream, and get estimate on upstreaming
* mcatanzaro
* mcatanzaro Remind stickster to put this on agenda four weeks out ;-)
to revisit
* mclasen
* mclasen blog on "why Wayland anyway?"
* stickster
* mcatanzaro Remind stickster to put this on agenda four weeks out ;-)
to revisit
* stickster crib from aforementioned blog to write up talking point
for Marketing/Ambassadors
* **UNASSIGNED**
* (none)
People Present (lines said)
---------------------------
* stickster (93)
* mclasen (47)
* mcatanzaro (46)
* cschalle_ (25)
* mattdm (24)
* kalev (23)
* zodbot (16)
* otaylor (12)
* rdieter (4)
* jsmith (3)
* davidshea (2)
* adamw (1)
* kalev-afk (1)
* halfline (1)
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Call for agenda for Workstation WG meeting 2016-Mar-02
by Paul W. Frields
First, I apologize for this late email. For a number of reasons both
family-related and dayjob-related, I've been quite behind this past
week, which is why the agenda's late.
The Workstation WG meeting is scheduled for this Wednesday,
2016-Mar-02 at 1500 UTC (10:00 EST, 15 UTC, 16:00 CEST). This agenda
is open for additions/corrections; please send by tomorrow at 14 UTC.
* PulseAudio flat volumes -- solicit remaining +/-1 if not found on
list yet
* User marketing of Wayland
re: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/desktop@lists.fedoraproject...
* * *
Something not on this list yet is to discuss the concept (and perhaps
implementation?) of third party repo support. We've made several
strides recently such as OpenH264 and with COPRs that somewhat change
the way we can offer additional content to users. But we don't yet
have an overarching, strategy based on solid justification that we can
sell and pursue in Workstation and beyond.
I was hoping we could broach that in this meeting, but I don't think
we can do it justice in remaining time. I'd rather call an off-week
session to discuss if people are open to that. Christian has done
some writing on this and it would be good to get that onto a wiki page
and discuss, so we can move toward ratifying/promoting it at the WG
level. I need to spend some additional time reviewing the writeup too
-- which goes back to my time issues I indicated at top.
So would anyone object to my setting up an additional time to look at
the topic, say next Wed 10am EST/15 UTC?
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