Re: Add support of the Totem on the Dell Canvas 27
by Peter Hutterer
On Fri, Nov 10, 2017 at 09:47:27PM +0100, Bastien Nocera wrote:
>
>
> > On 10 Nov 2017, at 11:16, Benjamin Tissoires <benjamin.tissoires(a)gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> > Hi,
> >
> > The Dell Canvas 27 has a new tool called the Totem[1].
> > This tool is aimed at popping up a menu right around it and the user
> > can select the desired menu by turning the tool and pushing it (it has
> > an embedded button).
>
> Apart from the coordinates telling you where it is on screen, what’s the difference with the USB and later BLE versions of the PowerMate:
> https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Griffin_PowerMate
> https://griffintechnology.com/us/powermate-bluetooth
from a user's POV I think that's a rather big difference, same as the
difference between an intuos and a cintiq or the indirect/direct touch
difference.
> > Microsoft has a similar one[2] known as the Surface Dial. The one from
> > Microsoft works with BLE so it is possible to use it without an
> > touchscreen (from what I've seen on internet, the menu will pop up in
> > the middle of the screen).
>
> I’d be interested in having one of the Griffin or Surface Dial working, so
> we can avoid having to change the plumbing that could get a bit too Dell
> Canvas specific. (Surface Dial: 87€, PowerMate 92€)
>
> > I think it would be good for Fedora and Gnome to support such a tool,
> > given that studios are the main target for it.
>
> But do we know whether they’re going to use it? It’s not like you can plop
> down about 100€ got the functionality, you also need the huge expensive
> tablet to go with it.
>
> > However, this requires quite some effort in all the layers as it is a
> > new type of tool.
>
> Do we have any way to pass down the physical size of the device, when it’s
> on the tablet’s screen? Are the MS and Dell devices interchangeable? (I’m
> guessing not) If we have infrastructure for those radial menus, will
> we/should we start using them for the dials on Wacom tablets?
I can handle this in libinput and pass it down. Fwiw my current way of
thinking is to handle this as another tool in the tablet interface, adding
extra axes to that for width/height is a trivial API addition. I somewhat
rely on the kernel to give me sane data but c'est la vie.
Cheers,
Peter
>
> > I started creating a few bug trackers:
> > https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1511846 (kernel)
> > https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1511851 (libinput)
> > https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1511854 (mutter)
> >
> > Feel free to clone those in the respective upstream projects.
> >
> > My guess is that we need changes in the kernel, libinput, wayland and
> > mutter. I might be wrong, please correct me if I am.
> >
> > I think this can be achievable for Fedora 28. Thoughts?
> >
> > Cheers,
> > Benjamin
> >
> > [1] https://www.dell.com/en-us/work/shop/workstations-isv-certified-dell/dell...
> > [2] https://www.microsoft.com/en-us/surface/accessories/surface-dial
6 years, 5 months
Workstation WG meeting recap 2017-11-06
by Paul W. Frields
Minutes: https://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-meeting-2/2017-11-06/workstation...
Minutes (text): https://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-meeting-2/2017-11-06/workstation...
Log: https://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-meeting-2/2017-11-06/workstation...
* * *
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#fedora-meeting-2: Workstation WG
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Meeting started by stickster at 14:01:06 UTC. The full logs are
available at
https://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-meeting-2/2017-11-06/workstation...
.
Meeting summary
---------------
* Roll call (stickster, 14:01:11)
* Color emoji not in F27 (stickster, 14:05:54)
* mcatanzaro noted the comps and package updates have not been picked
up, could be due to not having a freeze exception bug filed?
(stickster, 14:07:19)
* LINK: https://pagure.io/fedora-workstation/issue/30#comment-477205
(stickster, 14:07:23)
* ACTION: kalev file FE bug to get bodhi update for
gnome-themes-standard included (stickster, 14:15:48)
* ACTION: stickster talk to Fedora QA to make sure FE bug can be
included in next RC (stickster, 14:16:55)
* setroubleshooter path forward (stickster, 14:36:36)
* LINK: https://pagure.io/fedora-workstation/issue/24 (stickster,
14:36:39)
* ACTION: stickster talk to cschalle, mgrepl, et al. to see if we can
have some time invested to get closer to
https://wiki.gnome.org/Design/OS/ProblemReporting (stickster,
14:37:25)
* All other business (stickster, 14:38:22)
* Please test out the GNOME 3.26.2 megaupdate at
https://bodhi.fedoraproject.org/updates/FEDORA-2017-040483b1f1
(stickster, 14:46:25)
Meeting ended at 14:52:20 UTC.
Action Items
------------
* kalev file FE bug to get bodhi update for gnome-themes-standard
included
* stickster talk to Fedora QA to make sure FE bug can be included in
next RC
* stickster talk to cschalle, mgrepl, et al. to see if we can have some
time invested to get closer to
https://wiki.gnome.org/Design/OS/ProblemReporting
Action Items, by person
-----------------------
* cschalle
* stickster talk to cschalle, mgrepl, et al. to see if we can have
some time invested to get closer to
https://wiki.gnome.org/Design/OS/ProblemReporting
* kalev
* kalev file FE bug to get bodhi update for gnome-themes-standard
included
* stickster
* stickster talk to Fedora QA to make sure FE bug can be included in
next RC
* stickster talk to cschalle, mgrepl, et al. to see if we can have
some time invested to get closer to
https://wiki.gnome.org/Design/OS/ProblemReporting
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6 years, 5 months
2017-11-06 @ ** 17:00 ** UTC - Fedora 27 Blocker Review Meeting
by Adam Williamson
# F27 Blocker Review meeting
# Date: 2017-11-06
# Time: ** 17:00 ** UTC
# Location: #fedora-blocker-review on irc.freenode.net
Hi folks! We currently have only one proposed freeze exception for
Fedora 27. However, in case more blockers show up over the weekend,
I'm scheduling a review meeting for Monday; if there aren't any,
I'll just run a very quick meeting where we don't do anything.
Note that daylight savings time ends in most of North America this
weekend, so we'll be changing the meeting time to 17:00 UTC. If
daylight savings ends (clocks go back) for you this weekend, the
meeting should be at the same local time as always. If you don't
observe daylight savings or it ends at a different time, the meeting
will be one hour later in your local time than it was last week.
If you have time this weekend, you can take a look at the proposed or
accepted blockers before the meeting - the full lists can be found
here: https://qa.fedoraproject.org/blockerbugs/ .
We'll be evaluating these bugs to see if they violate any of the
Release Criteria and warrant the blocking of a release if they're not
fixed. Information on the release criteria for F27 can be found on the
wiki [0].
For more information about the Blocker and Freeze exception process,
check out these links:
- https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/QA:SOP_blocker_bug_process
- https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/QA:SOP_freeze_exception_bug_process
And for those of you who are curious how a Blocker Review Meeting
works - or how it's supposed to go and you want to run one - check out
the SOP on the wiki:
- https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/QA:SOP_Blocker_Bug_Meeting
Note that for the special case of the Server release being split from
the main release stream for Fedora 27, we have created separate Server
blocker tracking bugs and will be following the same basic process for
the Server release dates using those trackers.
Have a good weekend and see you on Monday!
[0] https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Fedora_Release_Criteria
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6 years, 5 months
Cheese: no longer works with my webcam, other testing requested
by Adam Williamson
Hi folks!
Doing the 'desktop_menus' validation test for Final RC-1.2 - the awful
one where you have to run every app on the live image - I just found
that Cheese doesn't seem to work with my webcam any more:
https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1508706
it definitely used to, this seems to be a new issue in F27. But it
looks a lot like it may be hardware-related, so it'd be great if folks
with different webcams could try out Cheese in F27 and report whether
it works for them. Please reply to this mail or in the bug. Thanks!
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6 years, 5 months
Re: [Test-Announce] Fedora 27 Candidate RC-1.2 Available Now!
by Adam Williamson
On Wed, 2017-11-01 at 23:19 +0000, rawhide(a)fedoraproject.org wrote:
> According to the schedule [1], Fedora 27 Candidate RC-1.2 is now
> available for testing. Please help us complete all the validation
> testing! For more information on release validation testing, see:
> https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/QA:Release_validation_test_plan
>
> Test coverage information for the current release can be seen at:
> https://www.happyassassin.net/testcase_stats/27
>
> You can see all results, find testing instructions and image download
> locations, and enter results on the Summary page:
>
> https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Test_Results:Fedora_27_RC_1.2_Summary
>
> The individual test result pages are:
>
> https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Test_Results:Fedora_27_RC_1.2_Installation
> https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Test_Results:Fedora_27_RC_1.2_Base
> https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Test_Results:Fedora_27_RC_1.2_Server
> https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Test_Results:Fedora_27_RC_1.2_Cloud
> https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Test_Results:Fedora_27_RC_1.2_Desktop
> https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Test_Results:Fedora_27_RC_1.2_Security_Lab
>
> All RC priority test cases for each of these test pages [2] must
> pass in order to meet the RC Release Criteria [3].
>
> Help is available on #fedora-qa on irc.freenode.net [4], or on the
> test list [5].
Hi folks! Just a heads up: this is a genuine Final release candidate,
there's a chance we'll decide to ship this tomorrow if there are no
release blocking bugs in it. So please, if you can, help run as many
validation tests on it as possible - we really need as close to 100%
coverage as we can get over the next ~18 hours or so. Thanks very much!
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6 years, 5 months
