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WG meeting August 28 -- sub chair or defer?
by Paul W. Frields 23 Aug '17

23 Aug '17

On August 28 a number of people will be traveling to Fedora's Flock conference, including Yrs. Truly. Should we try and arrange a substitute chair for the meeting, or cancel? -- Paul W. Frields http://paul.frields.org/ gpg fingerprint: 3DA6 A0AC 6D58 FEC4 0233 5906 ACDB C937 BD11 3717 http://redhat.com/ - - - - http://pfrields.fedorapeople.org/ The open source story continues to grow: http://opensource.com

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F27 and Workstation testing
by Paul W. Frields 22 Aug '17

22 Aug '17

Given how long the Fedora 26 schedule slipped/ran over, we had a *much* shorter F27 schedule than expected. That's had a number of ill effects, not the least of which is extra impact on the Fedora Engineering team. I'd like to avoid that in F28. This isn't a discussion about general Fedora schedule strategy. F28 schedule will likely not shift based on F27 slip, as has been the case for some years now. This discussion *is*, however, about how we can do our best to minimize slips to F27 Beta and GA based on Workstation related issues. I talked to Kamil Paral in #fedora-qa today to see how people involved in Workstation related development can best help. As you know, there are release criteria for each release -- previously Alpha/Beta/GA, now just Beta and GA. (The Alpha criteria still count, because Beta has to meet them, i.e. Alpha + Beta.) Some of these target specific activities, like login or the environment starting, and some target classes of components, like .desktop files. A couple things Kamil mentioned that I agree would help: 1. Regular testing of images *now*, before Beta freeze 2017-Sep-05. Fedora QA regularly announces (on the test-announce@ list) composes that are ready for testing. Here's the latest such announcement: <https://tinyurl.com/y8c7zvor> If each developer checked their particular area for release blocking bugs early, it's more likely we can avoid late surprises about something not working. (We have a limited number of folks dedicated to QA, after all.) 2. Assist in creating automated tests for Workstation composes/apps. The OpenQA system <https://openqa.fedoraproject.org/> allows graphical testing of the desktop. Even just a few extra tests could be useful based on what can save time in QA'ing releases. You can scroll down to the Workstation entries here and click through to some of the tests currently provided: <http://tinyurl.com/y9csgmmz> Kamil also mentioned having Workstation folks available when blocker meetings are going on, to allow for better decisions about truly blocking bugs. While it may not be a good use of time for a lot of people to attend the entirety of a blocker bug meeting, it *would* be a good idea for us to be aware of the blocker meeting schedule, and to stay tuned in #fedora-workstation and/or the meeting channel in case of summoning. Open to other ideas here as well. -- Paul W. Frields http://paul.frields.org/ gpg fingerprint: 3DA6 A0AC 6D58 FEC4 0233 5906 ACDB C937 BD11 3717 http://redhat.com/ - - - - http://pfrields.fedorapeople.org/ The open source story continues to grow: http://opensource.com

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Fedora Release Engineering Status Report (New! F27 deliverables)
by Kate Carcia 15 Aug '17

15 Aug '17

Hi all, In place of a demo this month, I am sending out this status report which includes some interesting highlights on F27 work. *https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/ReleaseEngineering/StatusReport#15AUG2017 <https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/ReleaseEngineering/StatusReport#15AUG2017>* Enjoy, KAITLYN CARCIA PROJECT MANAGER, RCM Red Hat Westford <https://www.redhat.com/> T: +1-857-770-0448- M: +1-978-604-8667 IM: katec <https://red.ht/sig>

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workstation-ostree gnome-software, no apps
by Chris Murphy 15 Aug '17

15 Aug '17

There's a bug here but I really don't know where to file bugs for workstation-ostree stuff, it seems plausible it could go on the GNOME or Red Hat BZ's or where I ended up putting it: https://pagure.io/atomic-ws/issue/7 -- Chris Murphy

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Workstation WG meeting recap 2017-Aug-14
by Paul W. Frields 14 Aug '17

14 Aug '17

Minutes: https://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-meeting-2/2017-08-14/workstation.2… Minutes (text): https://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-meeting-2/2017-08-14/workstation.2… Log: https://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-meeting-2/2017-08-14/workstation.2… * * * ================================= #fedora-meeting-2: Workstation WG ================================= Meeting started by stickster at 13:00:59 UTC. The full logs are available at https://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-meeting-2/2017-08-14/workstation.2… . Meeting summary --------------- * Roll call (stickster, 13:01:04) * Agenda uses issues list (stickster, 13:04:13) * LINK: https://pagure.io/fedora-workstation/issues?status=Open&tags=meeting (stickster, 13:04:15) * Add new GNOME core apps (stickster, 13:04:39) * LINK: https://pagure.io/fedora-workstation/issue/25 (stickster, 13:04:41) * LINK: http://imgur.com/a/bCUok (mclasen, 13:13:12) * LINK: https://blogs.gnome.org/mcatanzaro/2017/08/13/gnome-3-26-core-applications/ (mcatanzaro, 13:13:21) * AGREED: add Simple Scan to default workstation (+1: 7, 0: 0, -1: 0) (stickster, 13:27:38) * ACTION: kalev add Simple Scan to comps (stickster, 13:28:00) * ACTION: mcatanzaro work with upstream on naming issue; we can adapt as needed (stickster, 13:28:30) * AGREED: Add To Do to default apps (+1: 5, 0: 1, -1: 2) (stickster, 13:37:51) * ACTION: mcatanzaro Drive discussion/vote on Music for default this week (-ish) so we can get decided (stickster, 13:43:16) * ACTION: stickster figure out whether to cancel Aug 28th WG meeting (stickster, 13:43:41) * All other business -- open floor (stickster, 13:43:49) * LINK: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Changes/Graphical_Applications_as_Flatpaks (stickster, 13:47:19) * Anaconda coordination is deferred to F28, otaylor is tracking the flatpak change which will be assessed 2017-Sep-02 (stickster, 13:51:40) * AGREED: continue Music discussion elsewhere, check WG temp next time (stickster, 14:01:37) Meeting ended at 14:01:46 UTC. Action Items ------------ * kalev add Simple Scan to comps * mcatanzaro work with upstream on naming issue; we can adapt as needed * mcatanzaro Drive discussion/vote on Music for default this week (-ish) so we can get decided * stickster figure out whether to cancel Aug 28th WG meeting Action Items, by person ----------------------- * kalev * kalev add Simple Scan to comps * mcatanzaro * mcatanzaro work with upstream on naming issue; we can adapt as needed * mcatanzaro Drive discussion/vote on Music for default this week (-ish) so we can get decided * stickster * stickster figure out whether to cancel Aug 28th WG meeting * **UNASSIGNED** * (none) People Present (lines said) --------------------------- * stickster (81) * mcatanzaro (70) * ryanlerch (27) * kalev (19) * mclasen (16) * aday[m] (14) * zodbot (14) * juhp (10) * otaylor (8) * rdieter (2) Generated by `MeetBot`_ 0.1.4 .. _`MeetBot`: http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot -- Paul W. Frields http://paul.frields.org/ gpg fingerprint: 3DA6 A0AC 6D58 FEC4 0233 5906 ACDB C937 BD11 3717 http://redhat.com/ - - - - http://pfrields.fedorapeople.org/ The open source story continues to grow: http://opensource.com

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Enabling new gnome-control-panel for F27?
by Luya Tshimbalanga 12 Aug '17

12 Aug '17

Will the new gnom-control-panel be available for testing in F27? Thanks. -- Luya Tshimbalanga Graphic & Web Designer E: luya(a)fedoraproject.org W: http://www.coolest-storm.net

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[Fedocal] Reminder meeting : Workstation WG
by stickster＠gmail.com 12 Aug '17

12 Aug '17

Dear all, You are kindly invited to the meeting: Workstation WG on 2017-08-14 from 09:00:00 to 10:00:00 America/New_York At fedora-meeting-2(a)irc.freenode.net The meeting will be about: Regular meeting for the Workstation Working Group. Agenda: [https://pagure.io/fedora-workstation/issues?status=Open&tags=meeting](https… More information available at: [https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Workstation](https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/… Source: https://apps.fedoraproject.org/calendar/meeting/6331/

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ws-ostree update
by Colin Walters 07 Aug '17

07 Aug '17

Hi, to recap the ws-ostree situation, there are two repos: https://pagure.io/workstation-ostree-config https://pagure.io/atomic-ws I've updated the first to note the pretty ugly situation that we included a "workstation ostree" ISO with the Fedora 26 release, but due to the pungi → bodhi switchover and bodhi not being ready to ship updates, Fedora infra isn't currently updating the F26 workstation ostree repo. I've hence adjusted https://pagure.io/atomic-ws to use the ws-ostree config, but just build updates for it in CentOS CI. Instructions are on that page if you want to track F26 updates (I use it myself). It follows the at-most-once-a-day bodhi stream.

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