F32, Automatic suspend isn't working.
by Chris Murphy
cross-posting test@ and desktop@
Fedora Workstation 32 (upgraded from f31)
Laptop on battery power set aside, 12 hours later it's dead instead of
sleeping. On F31 it reliably would sleep after 20 minutes.
Sleep still happens when pressing the power button and closing the
lid. It seems to be a GNOME automatic suspend timer problem.
Using dconf editor, I changed the
/org/gnome/settings-daemon/plugins/power/sleep-inactive-battery-timeout
Custom value 30 and the problem doesn't happen. Is there a way to
increase debug messages somehow to find out whether this timeout is
being reached? And what process or policy is causing it to be reset?
With the available information I can't figure out what's preventing
sleep.
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Chris Murphy
5 months
RFC/headsup: dropping device-mapper-multipath from workstation livecd
by Hans de Goede
Hi All,
A while ago I noticed that Fedora ws installed from a livecd
has systemd starting (and waiting for) the old obsolete udev-settle
service. Which can cause a rather big increase if the bootup time.
This is caused by 2 storage related .service files still
bringing it into the boot by Requiring the udev-settle service:
dmraid and device-mapper-multipath.
Ideally these services would be rewritten to support event based
activation, but that is quite unlikely to happen anytime soon.
So I've come up with a small workaround for dmraid:
https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Changes/DisableDmraidOnFirstRun
And for device-mapper-multipath my plan is to simply drop it
from the livecd:
https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Changes/RemoveDeviceMapperMultipathFromWor...
My reasoning here is that multipath support is an enterprise
data-center feature and we don't need to support that with
the Workstation livecd. Most install in such a setup will
likely be server or everything netboot installs anyways.
Since this directly impacts the workstation product I
thought it would be good to post a headsup here. The change
has been announced on fedora-devel, so please reply there
to keep all discussion surrounding this in a single place.
Regards,
Hans
2 years, 9 months
Fedora Workstation WG minutes, 23 Jun
by Chris Murphy
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#fedora-meeting-2: Workstation WG (2020-06-23)
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Meeting started by cmurf at 04:07:14 UTC. The full logs are available at
https://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-meeting-2/2020-06-25/workstation...
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Meeting summary
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* Rollcall (cmurf, 04:07:45)
* present: cmurf, aday, jens, felipe, langdon, neal, michael, langdon,
mclasen, kalev, josef (cmurf, 04:07:46)
* Minutes for 9 Jun meeting (cmurf, 04:07:48)
* LINK:
https://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/teams/workstation/workstation.2020-06-0...
(cmurf, 04:07:50)
* AGREED: No objections - approved (cmurf, 04:07:52)
* Minutes for 16 Jun meeting (cmurf, 04:07:54)
* LINK:
https://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/teams/workstation/workstation.2020-06-1...
(cmurf, 04:07:56)
* These only just made it to the mailing list, so it's deferred until
next week. (cmurf, 04:07:58)
* Announcements (cmurf, 04:08:00)
* None (cmurf, 04:08:02)
* Follow-ups and status reports (cmurf, 04:08:04)
* Chris: started a draft nano proposal (cmurf, 04:08:06)
* Guidelines for preinstalled and non-removable apps (cmurf, 04:08:30)
* LINK: https://pagure.io/fedora-workstation/issue/125 (cmurf,
04:08:32)
* Not ready yet - deferred (cmurf, 04:08:34)
* Default partitioning: solving the competition for free space (cmurf,
04:08:36)
* LINK: https://pagure.io/fedora-workstation/issue/152 (cmurf,
04:08:38)
* Main questions: are there other ideas/proposals forthcoming? Change
(cmurf, 04:08:40)
* AGREED: LVM thin partitioning, split partitions for /usr & /var,
/etc & /home, not considered to be realistic. The choice is
therefore between btrfs, xfs, ext4. (cmurf, 04:08:44)
* ACTION: There will be a btrfs proposal before the weekend (cmurf,
04:09:32)
* btrfs by default (cmurf, 04:09:34)
* LINK: https://pagure.io/fedora-workstation/issue/153 (cmurf,
04:09:36)
* A rough draft proposal is in the ticket. (cmurf, 04:09:38)
Meeting ended at 04:09:53 UTC.
Action Items
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* There will be a btrfs proposal before the weekend
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* **UNASSIGNED**
* There will be a btrfs proposal before the weekend
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* zodbot (7)
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Fedora Workstation WG minutes, 16 Jun
by Chris Murphy
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#fedora-meeting-2: Workstation WG (2020-06-16)
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Meeting started by cmurf at 16:49:08 UTC. The full logs are available at
https://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-meeting-2/2020-06-18/workstation...
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Meeting summary
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* Rollcall and introductions (cmurf, 16:49:21)
* present: cmurf, aday, kalev, bcotton, felipe, otaylor, igor, james,
mclasen, neal, robert handlin, tpopela, mcatanzaro, langdon (cmurf,
16:49:22)
* Discussion of Facebook's usage of btrfs (cmurf, 16:49:27)
* LINK: Agenda:
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1u5it1dXxem-DJ8gN9jn9z9y7g9Uliirac1oUW...
(cmurf, 16:49:29)
* snapshotting and rollbacks could be useful for updates on
workstation. (cmurf, 16:49:37)
* resource control via cgroupsv2 is valuable - btrfs provides IO
isolation (cmurf, 16:49:45)
* compression extends lifetime of SSDs (cmurf, 16:50:01)
* most issues aren't btrfs itself, it discovers problems resulting
from hardware (cmurf, 16:50:11)
* near term "do not care" mode to make recovery and degraded
operations easier (cmurf, 16:50:29)
* 'df' 'du' mostly report correctly but don't know about compression,
subvolumes behave mostly like directories (cmurf, 16:50:49)
* btrfs works fine with dm-crypt, native encryption is being worked on
and live conversion is an expected feature (cmurf, 16:50:59)
* desktop experience, it just works, has a number of advantages,
solves problems (cmurf, 16:51:25)
* Facebook can recommend btrfs by default, will be updating
laptops/desktops this fall to use it (cmurf, 16:51:27)
Meeting ended at 16:51:28 UTC.
Action Items
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Action Items, by person
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* **UNASSIGNED**
* (none)
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* cmurf (68)
* zodbot (7)
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Fedora Workstation WG minutes, 9 Jun
by Chris Murphy
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#fedora-meeting-2: Workstation WG (2020-06-09)
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Meeting started by cmurf at 23:32:51 UTC. The full logs are available at
https://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-meeting-2/2020-06-09/workstation...
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Meeting summary
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* Rollcall (cmurf, 23:33:11)
* present: cmurf, neal, aday, kalev, tpopela, mcatanzaro, mclasen,
langdon, jens, feborges, james, igor (cmurf, 23:33:13)
* regrets: (cmurf, 23:33:15)
* missing: owen (showed up later) (cmurf, 23:33:17)
* Announcements (cmurf, 23:33:19)
* Followups (cmurf, 23:33:25)
* automatically adding new packages when upgrading (cmurf, 23:33:29)
* LINK: https://pagure.io/fedora-workstation/issue/138 (cmurf,
23:33:31)
* AGREED: : pursue 'dnf group update' option rather than metapackages,
for starters (cmurf, 23:33:57)
* ACTION: : Neal will open an RFE against DNF (cmurf, 23:33:59)
* Guidelines for preinstalled and non-removable apps (cmurf, 23:34:01)
* LINK: https://pagure.io/fedora-workstation/issue/125 (cmurf,
23:34:03)
* AGREED: deferred until Allan has done some work (cmurf, 23:34:05)
* Fedora 33 planning session (cmurf, 23:34:07)
* LINK: https://pagure.io/fedora-workstation/issue/145#comment-655102
(cmurf, 23:34:09)
* Planning for next week's meeting (cmurf, 23:34:17)
Meeting ended at 23:34:38 UTC.
Action Items
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* : Neal will open an RFE against DNF
Action Items, by person
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* **UNASSIGNED**
* : Neal will open an RFE against DNF
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* cmurf (46)
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