F32, Automatic suspend isn't working.
by Chris Murphy
cross-posting test@ and desktop@
Fedora Workstation 32 (upgraded from f31)
Laptop on battery power set aside, 12 hours later it's dead instead of
sleeping. On F31 it reliably would sleep after 20 minutes.
Sleep still happens when pressing the power button and closing the
lid. It seems to be a GNOME automatic suspend timer problem.
Using dconf editor, I changed the
/org/gnome/settings-daemon/plugins/power/sleep-inactive-battery-timeout
Custom value 30 and the problem doesn't happen. Is there a way to
increase debug messages somehow to find out whether this timeout is
being reached? And what process or policy is causing it to be reset?
With the available information I can't figure out what's preventing
sleep.
--
Chris Murphy
1 year, 5 months
Release criteria proposal: networking requirements
by Adam Williamson
Hi folks!
So at this week's blocker review meeting, the fact that we don't have
explicit networking requirements in the release criteria really started
to bite us. In the past we have squeezed networking-related issues in
under other criteria, but for some issues that's really difficult,
notably VPN issues. So, we agreed we should draft some explicit
networking criteria.
This turns out to be a big area and quite hard to cover (who'd've
thought!), but here is at least a first draft for us to start from. My
proposal would be to add this to the Basic criteria. I have left out
some wikitext stuff from the proposal for clarity; I'd add it back in
on actually applying the proposed changes. It's just formatting stuff,
nothing that'd change the meaning. Anyone have thoughts, complaints,
alternative approaches, supplements? Thanks!
=== Network requirements ===
Each of these requirements apply to both installer and installed system
environments. For any given installer environment, the 'default network
configuration tools' are considered to be those the installer documents
as supported ways to configure networking (e.g. for anaconda-based
environments, configuration via kernel command line options, a
kickstart, or interactively in anaconda itself are included).
==== Basic networking ====
It must be possible to establish both IPv4 and IPv6 network connections
using DHCP and static addressing. The default network configuration
tools for the console and for release-blocking desktops must work well
enough to allow typical network connection configuration operations
without major workarounds. Standard network functions such as address
resolution and connections with common protocols such as ping, HTTP and
ssh must work as expected.
Footnote titled "Supported hardware": Supported network hardware is
hardware for which the Fedora kernel includes drivers and, where
necessary, for which a firmware package is available. If support for a
commonly-used piece or type of network hardware that would usually be
present is omitted, that may constitute a violation of this criterion,
after consideration of the [[Blocker_Bug_FAQ|hardware-dependent-
issues|normal factors for hardware-dependent issues]]. Similarly,
violations of this criteria that are hardware or configuration
dependent are, as usual, subject to consideration of those factors when
determining whether they are release-blocking
==== VPN connections ====
Using the default network configuration tools for the console and for
release-blocking desktops, it must be possible to establish a working
connection to common OpenVPN, openconnect-supported and vpnc-supported
VNC servers with typical configurations.
Footnote title "Supported servers and configurations": As there are
many different VPN server applications and configurations, blocker
reviewers must use their best judgment in determining whether
violations of this criterion are likely to be encountered commonly
enough to block a release, and if so, at which milestone. As a general
principle, the more people are likely to use affected servers and the
less complicated the configuration required to hit the bug, the more
likely it is to be a blocker.
--
Adam Williamson
Fedora QA Community Monkey
IRC: adamw | Twitter: AdamW_Fedora | XMPP: adamw AT happyassassin . net
http://www.happyassassin.net
2 years, 1 month
Fedora Workstation WG minutes, 2021-12-21
by Chris Murphy
==============================================
#fedora-meeting-2: Workstation WG (2021-12-21)
==============================================
Meeting started by brainycmurf at 02:53:52 UTC. The full logs are
available at
https://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-meeting-2/2021-12-22/workstation...
.
Meeting summary
---------------
* Present members: Allan, Michael, Neal, Tomas, Chris, Kalev
(brainycmurf, 02:54:03)
* Present guests: Felipe (brainycmurf, 02:54:03)
* Regrets: (brainycmurf, 02:54:03)
* Missing: Langdon, Mattias, Owen, Jens (brainycmurf, 02:54:03)
* Secretary: Allan (brainycmurf, 02:54:03)
* Add gnome-software and NetworkManager (or NetworkManager-wiifi) to
protected packages for workstation? (brainycmurf, 02:54:04)
* LINK: https://pagure.io/fedora-workstation/issue/260 (brainycmurf,
02:54:07)
* ACTION: Michael to do this (brainycmurf, 02:54:25)
* gnome-terminal -> gnome-console (brainycmurf, 02:54:27)
* LINK: https://pagure.io/fedora-workstation/issue/261 (brainycmurf,
02:54:29)
* Offline updates: install updates after the user shutdown the computer,
instead of in the next boot (brainycmurf, 02:54:46)
* LINK: https://pagure.io/fedora-workstation/issue/258 (brainycmurf,
02:54:49)
* ACTION: Michael to file a ticket against gnome-software
(brainycmurf, 02:55:03)
* Update the Workstation PRD (brainycmurf, 02:55:05)
* LINK: https://pagure.io/fedora-workstation/issue/262 (brainycmurf,
02:55:07)
* PyCharm's official third-party repo doesn't have any appstream
metadata, can't be found in gnome-software (brainycmurf, 02:55:13)
* LINK: https://pagure.io/fedora-workstation/issue/254 (brainycmurf,
02:55:16)
* Announcements, status updates (brainycmurf, 02:55:20)
* Tomas has been working on the updated PRD - see
https://pagure.io/fedora-workstation/issue/262 (brainycmurf,
02:55:22)
* Allan has had some positive interaction with Canonical about the
appindicator extension. (brainycmurf, 02:55:25)
* The minutes from last week have been posted online. (brainycmurf,
02:55:27)
* LINK:
https://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-meeting-2/2021-12-15/workstation...
(brainycmurf, 02:55:29)
Meeting ended at 02:56:00 UTC.
Action Items
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* Michael to do this
* Michael to file a ticket against gnome-software
Action Items, by person
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* **UNASSIGNED**
* Michael to do this
* Michael to file a ticket against gnome-software
People Present (lines said)
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* brainycmurf (43)
* zodbot (7)
* Allan (0)
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2 years, 3 months
Fedora Workstation WG minutes, 2021-12-14
by Chris Murphy
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#fedora-meeting-2: Workstation WG (2021-12-14)
==============================================
Meeting started by brainycmurf at 16:05:09 UTC. The full logs are
available at
https://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-meeting-2/2021-12-15/workstation...
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Meeting summary
---------------
* Present members: Owen, Allan, Matthias, Kalev, Chris, Tomas, Michael,
Neal (brainycmurf, 16:05:22)
* Present guests: Luna Jernberg (bittin) (brainycmurf, 16:05:22)
* Regrets: (brainycmurf, 16:05:22)
* Missing: Langdon (brainycmurf, 16:05:22)
* Secretary: (brainycmurf, 16:05:22)
* Outstanding actions (brainycmurf, 16:05:23)
* 2m shutdown timer (brainycmurf, 16:05:25)
* LINK: https://pagure.io/fedora-workstation/issue/163 (Matthias)
(brainycmurf, 16:05:27)
* New text editor (brainycmurf, 16:05:31)
* LINK: https://pagure.io/fedora-workstation/issue/248 (brainycmurf,
16:05:33)
* NVIDIA driver and secure boot (brainycmurf, 16:05:42)
* LINK: https://pagure.io/fedora-workstation/issue/155 (brainycmurf,
16:05:44)
* ACTION: Chris and Neal and Michael to summarize the options and
technical details in writing, rather than in the meeting.
(brainycmurf, 16:05:48)
* Face to face meetings report (brainycmurf, 16:05:53)
* System-wide change proposal deadline is 28 December (brainycmurf,
16:06:20)
* Christmas/New Year meeting dates (brainycmurf, 16:06:27)
* ACTION: Michael to update the calendar. (brainycmurf, 16:06:34)
* Workstation membership (brainycmurf, 16:06:36)
* ACTION: Members to investigate candidates and come back with
suggestions. (brainycmurf, 16:06:45)
* Announcements & status updates (brainycmurf, 16:06:47)
* Gnome Terminal -> Gnome-console (brainycmurf, 16:06:51)
* LINK: https://pagure.io/fedora-workstation/issue/261 (brainycmurf,
16:06:53)
* Minutes from last week have been posted (brainycmurf, 16:06:55)
* LINK:
https://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-meeting-2/2021-12-08/workstation...
(brainycmurf, 16:06:57)
Meeting ended at 16:11:00 UTC.
Action Items
------------
* Chris and Neal and Michael to summarize the options and technical
details in writing, rather than in the meeting.
* Michael to update the calendar.
* Members to investigate candidates and come back with suggestions.
Action Items, by person
-----------------------
* **UNASSIGNED**
* Chris and Neal and Michael to summarize the options and technical
details in writing, rather than in the meeting.
* Michael to update the calendar.
* Members to investigate candidates and come back with suggestions.
People Present (lines said)
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* brainycmurf (48)
* zodbot (7)
* Allan (0)
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2 years, 4 months
Blender Wayland available on COPR
by Luya Tshimbalanga
Hello everyone,
Thanks to the work of one of Blender contributors [1], Blender runs on
Wayland with upstream patches yet to land mainline [2]. The method was
enabling "*WITH_GHOST_WAYLAND"*parameter along the patch setting
"BLENDER_WAYLAND" environment when running a Wayland session.
To see if the installed Blender[3], available on the COPR repository,
runs directly on Wayland, from the terminal, simply type
"WAYLAND_DEBUG=1 blender".
The side effect resolves an issue related to rendering with Open Shading
Language. The long term goal is to make Blender with Wayland support
available on the main repository starting from Rawhide and possibly the
current release i.e., Fedora 35.
Blender Wayland is available for both Rawhide, Fedora 35 and Fedora 34
for testing.[3]
References
---------------
[1] https://developer.blender.org/T90676
[2] https://developer.blender.org/D11489
[3] https://copr.fedorainfracloud.org/coprs/luya/blender-egl/build/3032066/
--
Luya Tshimbalanga
Fedora Design Team
Fedora Design Suite maintainer
2 years, 4 months
Workstation WG meeting, 14 December (secretary: Kalev)
by Allan Day
Hi all,
The next meeting of the Fedora Workstation Working Group is planned
for Tuesday 14 December, at 9.30 EDT. Join links:
- https://bluejeans.com/395383051/
- https://www.bluejeans.com/numbers
Thanks,
Allan
--
Agenda
#topic Outstanding actions
2m shutdown timer - https://pagure.io/fedora-workstation/issue/163 (Matthias)
New text editor - #248 . Did this get unstuck?
#topic NVIDIA driver and secure boot
#link https://pagure.io/fedora-workstation/issue/155
Recap after our meeting with Peter and Justin two weeks ago.
#topic Face to face meetings report
Another chance to discuss what happened during last week's face to
face meetings in Boston.
#topic Systemwide change proposal deadline is 28 December
Any changes that we need to make proposals for?
#topic Workstation membership
What do we want to do with Langdon's spot?
#topic Christmas/New Year meeting dates
Proposal: last 2021 meeting on 21st December. No meeting on 28th
December and 4th January. First 2022 meeting on 11 Jan.
#topic Announcements & status updates
Anything the group needs to be aware of?
2 years, 4 months
Fedora Workstation WG minutes, 2021-12-07
by Chris Murphy
==============================================
#fedora-meeting-2: Workstation WG (2021-12-07)
==============================================
Meeting started by brainycmurf at 18:05:12 UTC. The full logs are
available at
https://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-meeting-2/2021-12-08/workstation...
.
Meeting summary
---------------
* Present members: Allan, Tomas, Owen, Michael, Kalev, Jens, Neal, Chris
(tardy), Mattias (late) (brainycmurf, 18:05:23)
* Present guests: Luna Jernberg (bittin) (brainycmurf, 18:05:23)
* Regrets: (brainycmurf, 18:05:23)
* Missing: Langdon (brainycmurf, 18:05:23)
* Secretary: Allan (brainycmurf, 18:05:23)
* Fedora Workstation Planning (brainycmurf, 18:05:25)
* Last week's minutes have been posted (brainycmurf, 18:06:04)
* LINK:
https://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/teams/workstation/workstation.2021-12-0...
(brainycmurf, 18:06:06)
Meeting ended at 18:09:08 UTC.
Action Items
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Action Items, by person
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* **UNASSIGNED**
* (none)
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* zodbot (7)
* Allan (0)
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2 years, 4 months
