October 2022 - desktop - Fedora Mailing-Lists

by Chris Murphy

cross-posting test@ and desktop@ Fedora Workstation 32 (upgraded from f31) Laptop on battery power set aside, 12 hours later it's dead instead of sleeping. On F31 it reliably would sleep after 20 minutes. Sleep still happens when pressing the power button and closing the lid. It seems to be a GNOME automatic suspend timer problem. Using dconf editor, I changed the /org/gnome/settings-daemon/plugins/power/sleep-inactive-battery-timeout Custom value 30 and the problem doesn't happen. Is there a way to increase debug messages somehow to find out whether this timeout is being reached? And what process or policy is causing it to be reset? With the available information I can't figure out what's preventing sleep. -- Chris Murphy

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Workstation WG meeting, 1 November (secretary: Kalev)

by Allan Day

Hi all, The next meeting of the Fedora Workstation Working Group is planned for Tuesday 1 November, at 10:00 EDT. Join links: - https://bluejeans.com/395383051/ - https://www.bluejeans.com/numbers See below for the agenda. Allan -- Agenda #topic F37 release status An OpenSSL critical vulnerability has pushed the release back. The next go/no-go meeting will be held 1700 UTC on Thursday 10 November. The current target release date is 15 November. #topic Consider limiting journal size #link https://pagure.io/fedora-workstation/issue/213 Are there any takeaways from the mailing list thread that Chris started? Does this still need testing, or can we decide on a new proposal? #topic Workstation QA arrangements Allan had a call with Fedora QA on 13th October: * QA plan to prioritise testing the beta, and will aim to cover all the preinstalled apps in the beta testing. * Open questions about the usefulness of the RC test day: https://pagure.io/fedora-workstation/issue/334 * Concerns remain about the quality of Maps, Contacts, Calendar, Photos. #topic GNOME Software format preference #topic Working group chair for F38 #link https://pagure.io/fedora-workstation/issue/338 #topic Announcements, Status Updates #info F37 Online Release Party Friday-Saturday 4-5th November 2022 :: https://hopin.com/events/fedora-linux-37-release-party/registration #info The minutes from last week have been posted. #link https://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-meeting-2/2022-10-25/workstation...

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[Fedocal] Reminder meeting : Workstation WG

by catanzaro＠fedoraproject.org

Dear all, You are kindly invited to the meeting: Workstation WG on 2022-11-01 from 10:00:00 to 11:00:00 US/Eastern At https://bluejeans.com/395383051/ The meeting will be about: Regular meeting for the Workstation Working Group Current Topics: https://pagure.io/fedora-workstation/issues?status=Open&tags=meeting Etherpad: https://etherpad.gnome.org/p/fedora-workstation-wg More information available at: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Workstation Source: https://calendar.fedoraproject.org//meeting/10142/

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2022-10-31 @ 16:00 UTC - Fedora 37 Blocker Review Meeting

by Adam Williamson

# F36 Blocker Review meeting # Date: 2022-10-31 # Time: 16:00 UTC # Location: #fedora-blocker-review on irc.libera.chat Hi folks! We have 1 proposed Final freeze exception to review, but also we can probably kick around the plans for the release process over the next couple of weeks (hence the wide distribution on this mail - come along if you want to talk about that!), so let's have a review meeting. If you have time this weekend, you can take a look at the proposed or accepted blockers before the meeting - the full lists can be found here: https://qa.fedoraproject.org/blockerbugs/ . Remember, you can also now vote on bugs outside of review meetings! If you look at the bug list in the blockerbugs app, you'll see links labeled "Vote!" next to all proposed blockers and freeze exceptions. Those links take you to tickets where you can vote. https://pagure.io/fedora-qa/blocker-review has instructions on how exactly you do it. We usually go through the tickets shortly before the meeting and apply any clear votes, so the meeting will just cover bugs where there wasn't a clear outcome in the ticket voting yet. **THIS MEANS IF YOU VOTE NOW, THE MEETING WILL BE SHORTER!** We'll be evaluating these bugs to see if they violate any of the Release Criteria and warrant the blocking of a release if they're not fixed. Information on the release criteria for F36 can be found on the wiki [0]. For more information about the Blocker and Freeze exception process, check out these links: - https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/QA:SOP_blocker_bug_process - https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/QA:SOP_freeze_exception_bug_process And for those of you who are curious how a Blocker Review Meeting works - or how it's supposed to go and you want to run one - check out the SOP on the wiki: - https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/QA:SOP_Blocker_Bug_Meeting Have a good weekend and see you on Monday! [0] https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Fedora_Release_Criteria -- Adam Williamson Fedora QA IRC: adamw | Twitter: adamw_ha https://www.happyassassin.net

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Fedora Workstation WG minutes, 2022-10-25

by Chris Murphy

============================================== #fedora-meeting-2: Workstation WG (2022-10-25) ============================================== Meeting started by brainycmurf at 17:28:10 UTC. The full logs are available at https://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-meeting-2/2022-10-25/workstation... . Meeting summary --------------- * Present members: Tom,Michael,Thomas, Matthias, Zac, Kalev, Jens, Owen, Neal (brainycmurf, 17:32:03) * Guests:Luna(bittin) (brainycmurf, 17:32:03) * Regrets: Allan, Chris (brainycmurf, 17:32:03) * Missing: (brainycmurf, 17:32:03) * Secretary: Matthias (brainycmurf, 17:32:03) * F37 release status (brainycmurf, 17:32:04) * F37 Online Release Party Friday-Saturday (next week) 4-5th November 2022 (brainycmurf, 17:32:09) * LINK: https://hopin.com/events/fedora-linux-37-release-party/registration (brainycmurf, 17:32:13) * One accepted blocker remaining: calendar recurrent events issues. (brainycmurf, 17:32:15) * LINK: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=2135772 https://pagure.io/fedora-qa/blocker-review/issue/977 (brainycmurf, 17:32:17) * May get waived. Noone working on it. (brainycmurf, 17:32:20) * Announcements, Status Updates (brainycmurf, 17:32:22) * David King <amigadave> is taking over GNOME builds for the next 6 months for the GNOME 43/44 cycle from Kalev. (brainycmurf, 17:32:24) * toolboxes are failing to build for a while (brainycmurf, 17:32:29) * LINK: https://pagure.io/releng/issue/11092 (brainycmurf, 17:32:31) * Add VS Code to the 3rd party repos (brainycmurf, 17:32:35) * LINK: https://pagure.io/fedora-workstation/issue/283 (brainycmurf, 17:32:37) * Consider limiting journal size (brainycmurf, 17:32:49) * LINK: https://pagure.io/fedora-workstation/issue/213 (brainycmurf, 17:32:51) * fedora-autofirstboot (brainycmurf, 17:32:59) * LINK: https://pagure.io/fedora-workstation/issue/84 (brainycmurf, 17:33:03) * LINK: https://pagure.io/fedora-workstation/issue/242 (brainycmurf, 17:33:05) * ACTION: Neal to write a change proposal for the autoremoval of Anaconda on firstboot (brainycmurf, 17:33:09) * ACTION: Neal to build ffmpeg for EPEL 9 for RHEL 9.1 (brainycmurf, 17:33:15) * GNOME Software format preference (brainycmurf, 17:33:17) * dst ends in europe next weekend. so next meeting is 1 hour earlier for people in Europe (brainycmurf, 17:33:21) * The minutes from last week have been posted. (brainycmurf, 17:33:23) * LINK: https://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-meeting-1/2022-10-21/workstation... (brainycmurf, 17:33:25) Meeting ended at 17:34:16 UTC. Action Items ------------ * Neal to write a change proposal for the autoremoval of Anaconda on firstboot * Neal to build ffmpeg for EPEL 9 for RHEL 9.1 Action Items, by person ----------------------- * **UNASSIGNED** * Neal to write a change proposal for the autoremoval of Anaconda on firstboot * Neal to build ffmpeg for EPEL 9 for RHEL 9.1 People Present (lines said) --------------------------- * brainycmurf (46) * zodbot (7) * zodbot_ (7) * Michael (0) Generated by `MeetBot`_ 0.4 .. _`MeetBot`: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Zodbot#Meeting_Functions

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[Fedocal] Reminder meeting : Workstation WG

by catanzaro＠fedoraproject.org

Dear all, You are kindly invited to the meeting: Workstation WG on 2022-10-25 from 10:00:00 to 11:00:00 US/Eastern At https://bluejeans.com/395383051/ The meeting will be about: Regular meeting for the Workstation Working Group Current Topics: https://pagure.io/fedora-workstation/issues?status=Open&tags=meeting Etherpad: https://etherpad.gnome.org/p/fedora-workstation-wg More information available at: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Workstation Source: https://calendar.fedoraproject.org//meeting/10142/

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2022-10-24 @ 16:00 UTC - Fedora 37 Blocker Review Meeting

by Adam Williamson

# F36 Blocker Review meeting # Date: 2022-10-24 # Time: 16:00 UTC # Location: #fedora-blocker-review on irc.libera.chat Hi folks! We have 1 proposed Final blocker and 1 proposed Final freeze exception to review, so let's have a review meeting. If you have time this weekend, you can take a look at the proposed or accepted blockers before the meeting - the full lists can be found here: https://qa.fedoraproject.org/blockerbugs/ . Remember, you can also now vote on bugs outside of review meetings! If you look at the bug list in the blockerbugs app, you'll see links labeled "Vote!" next to all proposed blockers and freeze exceptions. Those links take you to tickets where you can vote. https://pagure.io/fedora-qa/blocker-review has instructions on how exactly you do it. We usually go through the tickets shortly before the meeting and apply any clear votes, so the meeting will just cover bugs where there wasn't a clear outcome in the ticket voting yet. **THIS MEANS IF YOU VOTE NOW, THE MEETING WILL BE SHORTER!** We'll be evaluating these bugs to see if they violate any of the Release Criteria and warrant the blocking of a release if they're not fixed. Information on the release criteria for F36 can be found on the wiki [0]. For more information about the Blocker and Freeze exception process, check out these links: - https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/QA:SOP_blocker_bug_process - https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/QA:SOP_freeze_exception_bug_process And for those of you who are curious how a Blocker Review Meeting works - or how it's supposed to go and you want to run one - check out the SOP on the wiki: - https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/QA:SOP_Blocker_Bug_Meeting Have a good weekend and see you on Monday! [0] https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Fedora_Release_Criteria -- Adam Williamson Fedora QA IRC: adamw | Twitter: adamw_ha https://www.happyassassin.net

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Fedora Workstation WG minutes, 2022-10-18

by Allan Day

Full logs are available at: https://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-meeting-1/2022-10-21/workstation... # Meeting summary Present members: Allan, Owen, Chris, Michael, Tomas, Matthias, Jens (aday, 08:28:18) Guests: Arnaud (aday, 08:28:18) Regrets: Kalev (aday, 08:28:20) Missing: (aday, 08:28:22) Secretary: Jens (aday, 08:28:24) F37 release status (aday, 08:28:28) * ACTION: Allan to review the "what's new" Fedora Magazine post (aday, 08:28:45) * ACTION: Neal to check on the upgrade banner in Software (aday, 08:28:47) F37 blockers (aday, 08:28:56) * fontconfig brokenness on Silverblue (aday, 08:29:43) * https://gitlab.freedesktop.org/fontconfig/fontconfig/-/issues/330 (aday, 08:29:45) * https://gitlab.freedesktop.org/fontconfig/fontconfig/-/issues/331 (aday, 08:29:47) Give ABRT some love (aday, 08:29:55) * https://pagure.io/fedora-workstation/issue/130 (aday, 08:29:57) Work on a new appindicator protocol (aday, 08:30:06) * https://pagure.io/fedora-workstation/issue/264 (aday, 08:30:10) * https://gitlab.freedesktop.org/xdg/xdg-specs/-/issues/84 (aday, 08:30:15) * ACTION: Michael to ensure that there's a comment on the protocol ticket, with a summary of what still needs to be done (aday, 08:30:23) * ACTION: Allan to investigate who might be interested in taking the shell UI forward on the GNOME side (aday, 08:30:26) Announcements, Status Updates (aday, 08:30:31) * The minutes from last week have been posted. (aday, 08:30:37) * https://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-meeting-2/2022-10-13/workstation... (aday, 08:30:41)

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Workstation WG meeting, 18 October (secretary: Jens) **NEW TIME**

by Allan Day

Hi all, The next meeting of the Fedora Workstation Working Group is planned for Tuesday 18 October, at 10:00 EDT. Note the new time: we are now meeting at 10:00 EDT, as opposed to the previous time of 9:30 EDT. This will be the new regular time going forward. Join links: - https://bluejeans.com/395383051/ - https://www.bluejeans.com/numbers See below for the agenda. Allan -- Agenda #topic F37 release status Kalev on vacation 10-24 October #topic F37 blockers gnome-calendar - Changes to recurring events don't redraw correctly - https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=2132769 gnome-calendar - Editing a recurring event moves it forward in time - https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=2132772 For the Calendar issues, Ray posted workarounds. There are also potential fixes upstream. contacts - Link Contacts feature completely broken - https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=2130661 Niels seems to have a partial fix. In the meantime, Michael pushed a change to hide contact linking. glibc - glibc 2.36+ breaks EAC with removal of DT_HASH (and other game libraries), making games fail to load - https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=2129358 Carlos O'Donell has a patch, but it doesn't seem to be ready. Neal has a separate patch to revert the upstream commit that caused the issue. There's also a fair number of workstation-related freeze exceptions: https://qa.fedoraproject.org/blockerbugs/milestone/37/final/buglist #topic fontconfig brokenness on Silverblue #link https://gitlab.freedesktop.org/fontconfig/fontconfig/-/issues/330 #link https://gitlab.freedesktop.org/fontconfig/fontconfig/-/issues/331 Did this get tested yet? #topic Give ABRT some love #link https://pagure.io/fedora-workstation/issue/130 #topic Work on a new appindicator protocol #link https://pagure.io/fedora-workstation/issue/264

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Fwd: [Test-Announce] Fedora 37 Candidate RC-1.2 Available Now!

by Adam Williamson

Hi folks, just a heads-up that the second RC for 37 Final is out now and we need to get through the testing by Thursday. There are a few potential blockers to work through, but so far I kinda suspect we may decide to reject or waive the ones that have arisen, so I still want to treat this as a 'viable' candidate for now and get all the tests run on it. This particularly includes the Active Directory tests (pinging sgallagh, thanks as always...) and testing Cloud on real clouds. The forwarded email has links to the results pages, which have links to the images (including AMIs on the Cloud results page). You can edit results into the wiki pages directly or use `relval report-results` (after `dnf -y install relval`) which is a CLI that edits the pages for you and makes the process slightly less annoying. :D Thanks a lot folks! -- Adam Williamson Fedora QA IRC: adamw | Twitter: adamw_ha https://www.happyassassin.net

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