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F32, Automatic suspend isn't working.
by Chris Murphy 26 Apr '25

26 Apr '25

cross-posting test@ and desktop@ Fedora Workstation 32 (upgraded from f31) Laptop on battery power set aside, 12 hours later it's dead instead of sleeping. On F31 it reliably would sleep after 20 minutes. Sleep still happens when pressing the power button and closing the lid. It seems to be a GNOME automatic suspend timer problem. Using dconf editor, I changed the /org/gnome/settings-daemon/plugins/power/sleep-inactive-battery-timeout Custom value 30 and the problem doesn't happen. Is there a way to increase debug messages somehow to find out whether this timeout is being reached? And what process or policy is causing it to be reset? With the available information I can't figure out what's preventing sleep. -- Chris Murphy

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[Fedocal] Reminder meeting : Workstation WG
by catanzaro＠fedoraproject.org 30 May '22

30 May '22

Dear all, You are kindly invited to the meeting: Workstation WG on 2022-05-31 from 09:30:00 to 10:30:00 US/Eastern At https://bluejeans.com/395383051/ The meeting will be about: Regular meeting for the Workstation Working Group Current Topics: https://pagure.io/fedora-workstation/issues?status=Open&tags=meeting Etherpad: https://etherpad.gnome.org/p/fedora-workstation-wg More information available at: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Workstation Source: https://calendar.fedoraproject.org//meeting/10142/

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Workstation WG meeting, 31 May (secretary: Tomáš)
by Chris Murphy 30 May '22

30 May '22

Hi all, The next meeting of the Fedora Workstation Working Group is planned for Tuesday 31 May, at 9.30 EDT. Join links: - https://bluejeans.com/395383051/ - https://www.bluejeans.com/numbers See below for the agenda. -- Agenda #topic Howdy integration #link https://pagure.io/fedora-workstation/issue/272 #topic In Repository Gnome Shell Extensions Need Some TLC #link https://pagure.io/fedora-workstation/issue/254 #topic Drop flathub filtering #link https://pagure.io/fedora-workstation/issue/300 #topic Preinstalled Flatpaks #link https://pagure.io/fedora-workstation/issue/269 #topic Graphical recovery environment #link https://pagure.io/fedora-workstation/issue/288 #topic Announcements, Status Updates #info The minutes from last week have been posted. https://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/teams/workstation/workstation.2022-05-24-… -- Chris Murphy

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GNOME Photos slowly loads a large set of photos
by Luya Tshimbalanga 26 May '22

26 May '22

Hello team, When using GNOME Photos as main photos manager, the application takes longer to load a large set of pictures and ended up crashing midway. I already failed a bug report on https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=2090880 and it will be nice if someone takes a look at the issue. From my understanding, it seems a tracker3 issue. Thanks in advance. -- Luya Tshimbalanga Fedora Design Team Fedora Design Suite maintainer

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Fedora Workstation WG minutes, 2022-05-24
by Chris Murphy 24 May '22

24 May '22

============================================== #fedora-meeting-2: Workstation WG (2022-05-24) ============================================== Meeting started by brainycmurf at 18:40:10 UTC. The full logs are available at https://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-meeting-2/2022-05-24/workstation.2… . Meeting summary --------------- * Present members: Chris, Michael, Jens, Tomas, Owen, Neal, Matthias (after 20min) (brainycmurf, 18:40:22) * Guests: Mike Fabian, Jack Sedita (brainycmurf, 18:40:22) * Regrets: Allan (brainycmurf, 18:40:22) * Missing: (brainycmurf, 18:40:22) * Secretary: Jens (brainycmurf, 18:40:22) * Update the Workstation PRD (brainycmurf, 18:40:25) * LINK: https://pagure.io/fedora-workstation/issue/262 (brainycmurf, 18:40:27) * AGREED: no objections: 6 members in favor of approving it (brainycmurf, 18:40:33) * NVIDIA driver and UEFI secure boot (brainycmurf, 18:40:35) * LINK: https://pagure.io/fedora-workstation/issue/155 (brainycmurf, 18:40:37) * Release blocking status of basic functionality tests for apps (brainycmurf, 18:40:55) * LINK: https://pagure.io/fedora-workstation/issue/304 (brainycmurf, 18:40:57) * Howdy integration (brainycmurf, 18:41:27) * LINK: https://pagure.io/fedora-workstation/issue/272 (brainycmurf, 18:41:31) * In Repository Gnome Shell Extensions Need Some TLC (brainycmurf, 18:41:33) * LINK: https://pagure.io/fedora-workstation/issue/254 (brainycmurf, 18:41:35) * Drop flathub filtering (brainycmurf, 18:41:37) * LINK: https://pagure.io/fedora-workstation/issue/300 (brainycmurf, 18:41:39) * Preinstalled Flatpaks (brainycmurf, 18:41:41) * LINK: https://pagure.io/fedora-workstation/issue/269 (brainycmurf, 18:41:43) * Graphical recovery environment (brainycmurf, 18:41:45) * LINK: https://pagure.io/fedora-workstation/issue/288 (brainycmurf, 18:41:47) * Announcements, Status Updates (brainycmurf, 18:41:49) * The minutes from last week have been posted. (brainycmurf, 18:41:51) * LINK: https://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/teams/workstation/workstation.2022-05-18-… (brainycmurf, 18:41:53) Meeting ended at 18:41:55 UTC. Action Items ------------ Action Items, by person ----------------------- * **UNASSIGNED** * (none) People Present (lines said) --------------------------- * brainycmurf (51) * zodbot (7) * cmurf (0) Generated by `MeetBot`_ 0.4 .. _`MeetBot`: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Zodbot#Meeting_Functions

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[Fedocal] Reminder meeting : Workstation WG
by catanzaro＠fedoraproject.org 23 May '22

23 May '22

Dear all, You are kindly invited to the meeting: Workstation WG on 2022-05-24 from 09:30:00 to 10:30:00 US/Eastern At https://bluejeans.com/395383051/ The meeting will be about: Regular meeting for the Workstation Working Group Current Topics: https://pagure.io/fedora-workstation/issues?status=Open&tags=meeting Etherpad: https://etherpad.gnome.org/p/fedora-workstation-wg More information available at: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Workstation Source: https://calendar.fedoraproject.org//meeting/10142/

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[Fedora 37] Call for Test Days
by Sumantro Mukherjee 23 May '22

23 May '22

Hi Fedora users, developers, and friends! It's time to start thinking about Test Days for Fedora 37. For anyone who isn't aware, a Test Day is an event usually focused around IRC for interaction and a Wiki page for instructions and results, with the aim being to get a bunch of interested users and developers together to test a specific feature or area of the distribution. You can run a Test Day on just about anything for which it would be useful to do some fairly focused testing in 'real time' with a group of testers; it doesn't have to be code, for instance, we often run Test Days for l10n/i18n topics. For more information on Test Days, see https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/QA/Test_Days . Anyone who wants to can host their own Test Day, or you can request that the QA group helps you out with organization or any combination of the two. To propose a Test Day, just file a ticket in fedora-qa pagure - here's an example https://pagure.io/fedora-qa/issue/624 . For instructions on hosting a Test Day, see https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/QA/SOP_Test_Day_management . You can see the schedule at https://pagure.io/fedora-qa/issues?tags=test+days . There are many slots open right now. Consider the development schedule, though, in deciding when you want to run your Test Day - for some topics you may want to avoid the time before the Beta release or the time after the feature freeze or the Final Freeze. We normally aim to schedule Test Days on Thursdays; however, if you want to run a series of related Test Days, it's often a good idea to do something like Tuesday / Wednesday / Thursday of the same week (this is how we usually run the X Test Week, for instance). If all the Thursday slots fill up but more people want to run Test Days, we will open up Tuesday slots as overflows. And finally, if you really want to run a Test Day in a specific time frame due to the development schedule, but the Thursday slot for that week is full, we can add a slot on another day. We're flexible! Just put in your ticket the date or time frame you'd like, and we'll figure it out from there. If you don't want to run your own Test Day, but you are willing to help with another, feel free to join one or more of already accepted Test Days: GNOME Test Day* i18n Test Day* Kernel Test Week(s)* Upgrade Test Day* IoT Test Week* Cloud Test Day* Fedora CoreOS Test Week* And don't be afraid, there are a lot of more slots available for your own Test Day! [*] These are the test days we run generally to make sure everything is working fine, the dates get announced as we move into the release cycle. If you have any questions about the Test Day process, please don't hesitate to contact me or any member of the Fedora QA team on test at lists.fedoraproject.org or in #fedora-qa on IRC. Thanks! -- //sumantro Fedora QE TRIED AND PERSONALLY TESTED, ERGO TRUSTED

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Workstation WG meeting, 24 May (secretary: Jens)
by Chris Murphy 22 May '22

22 May '22

Hi all, The next meeting of the Fedora Workstation Working Group is planned for Tuesday 24 May, at 9.30 EDT. Join links: - https://bluejeans.com/395383051/ - https://www.bluejeans.com/numbers See below for the agenda. -- #topic Update the Workstation PRD #link https://pagure.io/fedora-workstation/issue/262 #topic NVIDIA driver and UEFI secure boot #link https://pagure.io/fedora-workstation/issue/155 #topic Release blocking status of basic functionality tests for apps #link https://pagure.io/fedora-workstation/issue/304 Assignees for sub-tasks, please: * https://pagure.io/fedora-workstation/issue/164 * https://pagure.io/fedora-workstation/issue/306 * https://pagure.io/fedora-workstation/issue/307 * https://pagure.io/fedora-workstation/issue/310 * https://pagure.io/fedora-workstation/issue/311 * https://pagure.io/fedora-workstation/issue/312 Backlog issues: #topic Howdy integration #link https://pagure.io/fedora-workstation/issue/272 #topic In Repository Gnome Shell Extensions Need Some TLC #link https://pagure.io/fedora-workstation/issue/254 #topic Drop flathub filtering #link https://pagure.io/fedora-workstation/issue/300 #topic Preinstalled Flatpaks #link https://pagure.io/fedora-workstation/issue/269 #topic Graphical recovery environment #link https://pagure.io/fedora-workstation/issue/288 #topic Announcements, Status Updates #info The minutes from last week have been posted. #link https://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/teams/workstation/workstation.2022-05-18-… -- Chris Murphy

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Fedora Workstation WG minutes, 2022-05-17
by Chris Murphy 18 May '22

18 May '22

============================================== #fedora-meeting-2: Workstation WG (2022-05-17) ============================================== Meeting started by brainycmurf at 17:14:26 UTC. The full logs are available at https://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-meeting-2/2022-05-18/workstation.2… . Meeting summary --------------- * Present members:Neal, Michael, Allan, Tomas, Matthias, Chris, Jens, Owen (brainycmurf, 17:14:40) * Guests:Luna Jernberg(bittin), (brainycmurf, 17:14:40) * Regrets: (brainycmurf, 17:14:40) * Missing: (brainycmurf, 17:14:40) * Secretary: Matthias (brainycmurf, 17:14:40) * Review the state of i18n and l10n (brainycmurf, 17:14:41) * LINK: https://pagure.io/fedora-workstation/issue/267 (brainycmurf, 17:14:43) * LINK: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/I18N (brainycmurf, 17:14:47) * LINK: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/L10N (brainycmurf, 17:14:49) * ACTION: Neal to put Jens in contact with Aleix (brainycmurf, 17:15:31) * Appoint a chair for the F37 cycle (brainycmurf, 17:15:39) * LINK: https://pagure.io/fedora-workstation/issue/308 (brainycmurf, 17:15:41) * Upcoming meetings (brainycmurf, 17:15:49) * Release blocking status of basic functionality tests for apps (brainycmurf, 17:16:09) * LINK: https://pagure.io/fedora-workstation/issue/304 (brainycmurf, 17:16:11) * Howdy integration (brainycmurf, 17:16:33) * LINK: https://pagure.io/fedora-workstation/issue/272 (brainycmurf, 17:16:35) * In Repository Gnome Shell Extesions Need Some TLC (brainycmurf, 17:16:39) * LINK: https://pagure.io/fedora-workstation/issue/254 (brainycmurf, 17:16:41) * Announcements, Status Updates (brainycmurf, 17:16:45) * The minutes from last week have been posted. (brainycmurf, 17:16:59) * LINK: https://meetbot-raw.fedoraproject.org/teams/workstation/workstation.2022-05… (brainycmurf, 17:17:01) Meeting ended at 17:17:04 UTC. Action Items ------------ * Neal to put Jens in contact with Aleix Action Items, by person ----------------------- * **UNASSIGNED** * Neal to put Jens in contact with Aleix People Present (lines said) --------------------------- * brainycmurf (75) * zodbot (7) * aday (0) Generated by `MeetBot`_ 0.4 .. _`MeetBot`: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Zodbot#Meeting_Functions

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'explaining computers' youtube review
by Matthew Miller 18 May '22

18 May '22

A comprehensive and generally positive revew here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g5d0dfq_Ew8 (h/t Neal for pointing it out!) A couple of things struck me as worth working on as we reach wider and wider audience. These both GNOME UI elements, so maybe it's something where we can find a way to improve things upstream too. * He gets that the keyboard is the beset way to use the shell to launch apps. But it _is_ a lot of clicks if you're doing it the all-mouse way. I I think we should look into dash/dock options. * People are still hung up on maximize. I'm not in favor of adding buttons, but I think the drag-to-top-to-maximize / side-to-split functionality isn't discoverable enough. How can we make that more apparent? -- Matthew Miller <mattdm(a)fedoraproject.org> Fedora Project Leader

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