F32, Automatic suspend isn't working.
by Chris Murphy
cross-posting test@ and desktop@
Fedora Workstation 32 (upgraded from f31)
Laptop on battery power set aside, 12 hours later it's dead instead of
sleeping. On F31 it reliably would sleep after 20 minutes.
Sleep still happens when pressing the power button and closing the
lid. It seems to be a GNOME automatic suspend timer problem.
Using dconf editor, I changed the
/org/gnome/settings-daemon/plugins/power/sleep-inactive-battery-timeout
Custom value 30 and the problem doesn't happen. Is there a way to
increase debug messages somehow to find out whether this timeout is
being reached? And what process or policy is causing it to be reset?
With the available information I can't figure out what's preventing
sleep.
--
Chris Murphy
4 months, 3 weeks
Computer
by Alejandro López
Greetings, my name is Alejandro Lopez from Slimbook Computers and I'm
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We are hardware company committed to the flawless integration and
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We were given the chance to work together with the KDE team back in 2016
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the approval from both parties, the objective of our collaboration was
the birth of a modern and sleek device that excelled in performance and
provided a flawless user experience for the community.
The intent of this email is to let you know that the current demand for
your amazing Fedora distribution is 2% from all our orders, and we think
that this should change. I've sent to Matthew some general reports on
which distros are currently in demand from our customers, and KDE Neon
had an exponential growth versus other distros.
What are your thoughts on this situation?
I believe that we should work something out together to fix this.
I think we should do more than offer Fedora as just another operating
system (the user can choose up to 12 distributions).
Thank you,
--
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Fedora Workstation WG minutes, 2022-07-26
by Chris Murphy
==============================================
#fedora-meeting-2: Workstation WG (2022-07-26)
==============================================
Meeting started by brainycmurf at 01:31:53 UTC. The full logs are
available at
https://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-meeting-2/2022-07-27/workstation...
.
Meeting summary
---------------
* Present members: Michael, Kalev, Tom, Chris, Jens, Owen, Allan
(brainycmurf, 01:32:16)
* Guests: Zac, Maira (brainycmurf, 01:32:16)
* Regrets: Matthias, Neal (brainycmurf, 01:32:16)
* Missing: (brainycmurf, 01:32:16)
* Secretary: Tomáš (brainycmurf, 01:32:16)
* Work on a new appindicator protocol (brainycmurf, 01:32:17)
* LINK: https://pagure.io/fedora-workstation/issue/264 (brainycmurf,
01:32:19)
* Announcements, Status Updates (brainycmurf, 01:32:27)
* The minutes from last week have been posted. (brainycmurf,
01:32:32)
* LINK:
https://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-meeting-2/2022-07-20/workstation...
(brainycmurf, 01:32:34)
Meeting ended at 01:33:04 UTC.
Action Items
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Action Items, by person
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* **UNASSIGNED**
* (none)
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8 months
GNOME 43.alpha builds in rawhide
by Kalev Lember
Hi all,
I'm back from my vacation and taking over GNOME builds and coordination
again this cycle (David King handled GNOME 42 builds during the last cycle).
Upstream is busily releasing 43.alpha and we need to get our downstream
builds done as well. We have a f37-gnome side tag for builds, which
should help make sure we keep rawhide breakage minimum (we can verify
that things roughly work before merging it).
This cycle the complicating elements seem to be:
- continued porting from gtk 3 to gtk 4
- libsoup to libsoup3 transition
- gnome-desktop3 and gnome-desktop4 soname bumps
The last two in particular affect much more consumers than just GNOME so
we need to be a bit careful here. Michael already filed a Change
Proposal for libsoup3 and it should hopefully get approved by FESCo
soon: https://pagure.io/fesco/issue/2829
Once we have FESCo approval for libsoup3 transition, I intend to go full
steam ahead with GNOME 43.alpha and libsoup3 builds. I have already done
a few in the side tag, but the rest is so tangled up that I think it's
easier to wait a bit.
If you are helping with builds, please use 'fedpkg build --target
f37-gnome'. There's no need to use it if the update really is stand
alone, but if it's tangled up in the rest of the GNOME update in some
way, please use the side tag so we can ensure we don't break rawhide.
Thanks for attention and thanks for the help!
Kalev
8 months, 1 week
Fedora Workstation WG minutes, 2022-07-19
by Chris Murphy
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#fedora-meeting-2: Workstation WG (2022-07-19)
==============================================
Meeting started by brainycmurf at 00:29:44 UTC. The full logs are
available at
https://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-meeting-2/2022-07-20/workstation...
.
Meeting summary
---------------
* Present members: Michael, Chris, Owen, Allan, Kalev (brainycmurf,
00:29:59)
* Guests: Luna (bittin) (brainycmurf, 00:29:59)
* Regrets: Matthias, Neal, Jens, Tomáš (brainycmurf, 00:29:59)
* Missing: (brainycmurf, 00:29:59)
* Secretary: Chris (brainycmurf, 00:29:59)
* Unfiltered Flathub (brainycmurf, 00:30:00)
* LINK: https://pagure.io/fedora-workstation/issue/300 (brainycmurf,
00:30:04)
* LINK:
https://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-meeting/2022-07-12/fesco.2022-07...
(brainycmurf, 00:30:06)
* Status update: FESCO rejected the change, we'll revisit and address
the issues, and is deferred until F38. (brainycmurf, 00:30:08)
* F37 release schedule (brainycmurf, 00:30:11)
* LINK: https://pagure.io/fedora-workstation/issue/312 (brainycmurf,
00:30:13)
* This is a bit early, but useful to review and make sure we're on the
same page with GNOME and Fedora QA folks being available.
(brainycmurf, 00:30:21)
* Improve the user feedback for OOM situations (brainycmurf, 00:30:45)
* LINK: https://pagure.io/fedora-workstation/issue/202 (brainycmurf,
00:30:47)
* ACTION: Chris will ask around, systemd folks for a dbus api, and for
a desktop developer for advice on other next steps. (brainycmurf,
00:30:57)
* LINK: https://github.com/systemd/systemd/issues/23606
(brainycmurf, 00:31:00)
* Stale pending-action tickets (brainycmurf, 00:31:04)
* Automatically install the OpenH264 codecs (brainycmurf, 00:31:06)
* LINK: https://pagure.io/fedora-workstation/issue/84 (brainycmurf,
00:31:08)
* Broadcom wireless (brainycmurf, 00:31:14)
* LINK: https://pagure.io/fedora-workstation/issue/116 (brainycmurf,
00:31:16)
* ACTION: Chris still plans to do a quickdoc on a subset of the issue
(brainycmurf, 00:31:18)
* 2m shutdown timer is too long (brainycmurf, 00:31:20)
* LINK: https://pagure.io/fedora-workstation/issue/163 (brainycmurf,
00:31:22)
* AGREED: should be 15 seconds, and we'll ask systemd devs how to do
this for Workstation/desktops (brainycmurf, 00:31:26)
* ACTION: Michael to comment in the ticket (brainycmurf, 00:31:28)
* Announcements, Status Updates (brainycmurf, 00:31:30)
* The minutes from last week have been posted. (brainycmurf,
00:31:34)
* LINK:
https://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-meeting-2/2022-07-12/workstation...
(brainycmurf, 00:31:36)
* GUADEC week this week in Mexico and Online with talks and the GNOME
AGM (brainycmurf, 00:31:39)
* LINK: https://events.gnome.org/event/77/ (brainycmurf, 00:31:41)
Meeting ended at 02:06:05 UTC.
Action Items
------------
* Chris will ask around, systemd folks for a dbus api, and for a desktop
developer for advice on other next steps.
* Chris still plans to do a quickdoc on a subset of the issue
* Michael to comment in the ticket
Action Items, by person
-----------------------
* **UNASSIGNED**
* Chris will ask around, systemd folks for a dbus api, and for a
desktop developer for advice on other next steps.
* Chris still plans to do a quickdoc on a subset of the issue
* Michael to comment in the ticket
People Present (lines said)
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* brainycmurf (49)
* zodbot (7)
* Allan (0)
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8 months, 1 week
Fedora Workstation WG minutes, 2022-07-12
by Chris Murphy
==============================================
#fedora-meeting-2: Workstation WG (2022-07-12)
==============================================
Meeting started by brainycmurf at 19:51:43 UTC. The full logs are
available at
https://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-meeting-2/2022-07-12/workstation...
.
Meeting summary
---------------
* Present members: Michael, Neal, Allan, Kalev, Tomas, Jens, Matthias,
Chris (brainycmurf, 19:52:04)
* Guests: Zac, Maira (brainycmurf, 19:52:04)
* Regrets: (brainycmurf, 19:52:04)
* Missing: (brainycmurf, 19:52:04)
* Secretary: Jens (brainycmurf, 19:52:04)
* Drop Flathub filtering (brainycmurf, 19:52:05)
* LINK: https://pagure.io/fedora-workstation/issue/300 (brainycmurf,
19:52:07)
* Improve GTK4 font rendering by default for 1080p displays
(brainycmurf, 19:52:22)
* LINK: https://pagure.io/fedora-workstation/issue/295 (brainycmurf,
19:52:24)
* LINK: https://gitlab.gnome.org/GNOME/gtk/-/issues/3787
(brainycmurf, 19:52:26)
* ACTION: Michael to update the ticket with comparison screenshots
using latest GTK (brainycmurf, 19:52:49)
* Review stale pending-action tickets (brainycmurf, 19:52:51)
* Remove photos from the default apps (brainycmurf, 19:52:53)
* LINK: https://pagure.io/fedora-workstation/issue/164 (brainycmurf,
19:52:55)
* Add VS Code to the 3rd party repos (brainycmurf, 19:53:01)
* LINK: https://pagure.io/fedora-workstation/issue/283 (brainycmurf,
19:53:03)
* Graphical recovery environment (brainycmurf, 19:53:09)
* LINK: https://pagure.io/fedora-workstation/issue/288 (brainycmurf,
19:53:11)
* ACTION: Chris to take over research to come up with use cases,
technical design options. (brainycmurf, 19:53:32)
* Enable full-preemption (brainycmurf, 19:53:34)
* LINK: https://pagure.io/fedora-workstation/issue/228 (brainycmurf,
19:53:36)
* ACTION: Chris to dig into it and see about how we can do testing.
(brainycmurf, 19:53:45)
* LINK: https://pagure.io/fedora-workstation/issue/261 (brainycmurf,
19:53:53)
* LINK: https://src.fedoraproject.org/rpms/gnome-console
(brainycmurf, 19:54:01)
* ACTION: Michael to talk to the maintainer about the lack of stable
release (brainycmurf, 19:54:03)
* ACTION: Allan to continue pushing to get the features we want
(brainycmurf, 19:54:05)
* Automatically install the OpenH264 codecs (brainycmurf, 19:54:07)
* LINK: https://pagure.io/fedora-workstation/issue/84 (brainycmurf,
19:54:09)
* Broadcom wireless (brainycmurf, 19:54:13)
* LINK: https://pagure.io/fedora-workstation/issue/116 (brainycmurf,
19:54:15)
* 2m shutdown timer is too long (brainycmurf, 19:54:21)
* LINK: https://pagure.io/fedora-workstation/issue/163 (brainycmurf,
19:54:23)
* Announcements, Status Updates (brainycmurf, 19:54:27)
* The minutes from last week have been posted. (brainycmurf,
19:54:29)
* LINK:
https://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-meeting-2/2022-07-05/workstation...
(brainycmurf, 19:54:31)
* LINK: https://pagure.io/fedora-hatch-2022-rochester (brainycmurf,
19:54:36)
Meeting ended at 19:54:42 UTC.
Action Items
------------
* Michael to update the ticket with comparison screenshots using latest
GTK
* Chris to take over research to come up with use cases, technical
design options.
* Chris to dig into it and see about how we can do testing.
* Michael to talk to the maintainer about the lack of stable release
* Allan to continue pushing to get the features we want
Action Items, by person
-----------------------
* Allan
* Allan to continue pushing to get the features we want
* **UNASSIGNED**
* Michael to update the ticket with comparison screenshots using
latest GTK
* Chris to take over research to come up with use cases, technical
design options.
* Chris to dig into it and see about how we can do testing.
* Michael to talk to the maintainer about the lack of stable release
People Present (lines said)
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* brainycmurf (78)
* zodbot (7)
* Allan (0)
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