Upcoming Workstation WG Meetings Canceled
by Michael Catanzaro
Hi,
I'm going to cancel the Workstation WG meeting for the next 3 weeks.
We'll next meet on Tuesday, January 9. The focus of that meeting will
likely be fractional scaling.
(I had been planning to hold the meeting next Tuesday and most of us
were available to attend, but we are going to need more time to prepare
for the fractional scaling discussion, and there are not currently
other topics that need to be urgently scheduled.)
Michael
3 months, 3 weeks
Fedora Workstation WG minutes, 2023-12-12
by Chris Murphy
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#fedora-meeting-2: Workstation WG (2023-12-12)
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Meeting started by brainycmurf at 06:27:12 UTC. The full logs are
available at
https://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-meeting-2/2023-12-13/workstation...
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Meeting summary
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* Present members: Michael, Kalev, Allan, Chris, Owen, Neal
(brainycmurf, 06:27:13)
* Guests: (brainycmurf, 06:27:13)
* Regrets: Tomas, Matthias, Jens (brainycmurf, 06:27:15)
* Missing: (brainycmurf, 06:27:17)
* Secretary: Kalev (brainycmurf, 06:27:19)
* Switch from meet.opensuse.org to a different conferencing platform
(brainycmurf, 06:27:21)
* LINK: https://pagure.io/fedora-workstation/issue/403 (brainycmurf,
06:27:23)
* Learning from the F40 “tuned replaces ppd” change proposal
(brainycmurf, 06:27:32)
* LINK:
https://discussion.fedoraproject.org/t/learning-from-the-f40-tuned-replac...
(brainycmurf, 06:27:34)
* Announcements and status updates (brainycmurf, 06:27:51)
* LINK:
https://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-meeting-2/2023-12-06/workstation...
(brainycmurf, 06:28:01)
Meeting ended at 06:28:04 UTC.
Action Items
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Action Items, by person
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* **UNASSIGNED**
* (none)
People Present (lines said)
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* brainycmurf (24)
* zodbot (7)
* Michael (0)
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4 months, 2 weeks
Fedora Workstation WG minutes, 2023-12-05
by Chris Murphy
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#fedora-meeting-2: Workstation WG (2023-12-05)
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Meeting started by brainycmurf at 03:42:07 UTC. The full logs are
available at
https://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-meeting-2/2023-12-06/workstation...
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Meeting summary
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* Present members: Michael, Owen, Kalev, Allan, Chris (brainycmurf,
03:42:07)
* Guests: (brainycmurf, 03:42:07)
* Regrets: Tomas, Matthias, Jens (brainycmurf, 03:42:07)
* Missing: (brainycmurf, 03:42:09)
* Secretary:Owen (brainycmurf, 03:42:11)
* Switch from meet.opensuse.org to a different conferencing platform
(brainycmurf, 03:42:13)
* LINK: https://pagure.io/fedora-workstation/issue/403 (brainycmurf,
03:42:15)
* new setup (meet-test.opensuse.org) working well for some people,
some people seeing video bugs; extensive discussion of alternatives.
Will keep meet-test.opensuse.org for now. (brainycmurf, 03:42:17)
* Enable full preemption (brainycmurf, 03:42:20)
* LINK: https://pagure.io/fedora-workstation/issue/228 (brainycmurf,
03:42:22)
* Owen with general agreement suggested that doing this by kernel
command line is not great - very hard to upgrades, hard to do just
for some variants. Chris sent a mail to llkml some time ago about
moving switch from debugfs to sysfs, but didn't get a response.
(brainycmurf, 03:42:24)
* Neal would like to see characterization of this on server workloads
so that we could enable across variants (brainycmurf, 03:42:28)
* Discussion of whether we *know* this is desktop only, or might make
sense for server workloads as well - especially now that serv7ers
are often running more complex workloads with cgroups, etc.
(brainycmurf, 03:42:31)
* Discussion of how to test - what are the (desktop) workloads that we
expect this to make a difference - OBS streaming? Audio? (Fedora Jam
apparently sets up preempt=full). Is sysprof useful for testing
whether preempt=full improves responsiveness/smoothess of GNOME
shell under high load (brainycmurf, 03:42:36)
* ACTION: Chris and Neal to check in with members of Meta kernel team
to see if they have insight about moving the switch out of debugfs -
or how to move forward for there. (brainycmurf, 03:42:40)
* Announcements and status updates (brainycmurf, 03:42:43)
* LINK:
https://discussion.fedoraproject.org/t/learning-from-the-f40-tuned-replac...
(brainycmurf, 03:42:45)
* discussion of role of working group vs. fesco in change proposal
process (brainycmurf, 03:42:48)
* Allan change proposals were conceived as "notification" of things
coming from upstream (brainycmurf, 03:42:50)
* Neal - there's a split between notications of upcoming upstream
changes, and change proposals for work that is being done downstream
- specific to fedora, and the second set of things is getting
larger; policy documents lag behind. (brainycmurf, 03:42:52)
* Nobody wanted to copy the releng part where there has to be a ticket
filed (brainycmurf, 03:42:56)
* Allan felt there isn't enough time between posting and voting - that
voting can get in the way of the discussion. (brainycmurf,
03:42:58)
* LINK:
https://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-meeting-2/2023-11-30/workstation...
(brainycmurf, 03:43:03)
Meeting ended at 03:43:08 UTC.
Action Items
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* Chris and Neal to check in with members of Meta kernel team to see if
they have insight about moving the switch out of debugfs - or how to
move forward for there.
Action Items, by person
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* **UNASSIGNED**
* Chris and Neal to check in with members of Meta kernel team to see
if they have insight about moving the switch out of debugfs - or how
to move forward for there.
People Present (lines said)
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* brainycmurf (28)
* zodbot (7)
* Michael (0)
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4 months, 3 weeks
