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Summary/Minutes from today's Fedora Flatpak Packaging SIG Meeting (2023-03-20)

by Kalev Lember

=============================================== #fedora-meeting-2: Fedora Flatpak Packaging SIG =============================================== Meeting started by kalev at 15:03:20 UTC. The full logs are available at https://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-meeting-2/2023-03-20/flatpak-sig... . Meeting summary --------------- * Init process (kalev, 15:03:20) * Fedora 38 (kalev, 15:07:30) * LINK: https://paste.centos.org/view/af48818f would be the diff what gets dropped (kalev, 15:47:15) * AGREED: Drop Qt 5 from the Fedora runtime (we never had Qt 6 in the runtime) for F38, and move both Qt 5 and Qt 6 to flatpak-common for F38 (kalev, 15:58:10) * Still need to figure out how to best make qgnomeplatform get installed when Qt is built as part of flatpak-common and is not part of the runtime (kalev, 15:58:59) Meeting ended at 16:00:34 UTC. Action Items ------------ Action Items, by person ----------------------- * **UNASSIGNED** * (none) People Present (lines said) --------------------------- * kalev (71) * OwenTaylor[m] (20) * zodbot (8) * tpopela[m] (8) * AllanDay[m] (1) Generated by `MeetBot`_ 0.4 .. _`MeetBot`: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Zodbot#Meeting_Functions

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2023-03-20 @ **16:00** UTC - Fedora 38 Blocker Review Meeting

by Adam Williamson

# F37 Blocker Review meeting # Date: 2023-03-20 # Time: **16:00** UTC # Location: #fedora-blocker-review on irc.libera.chat Hi folks! We have 5 proposed Final blockers to review, so let's have a review meeting. Remember that clocks went forward in North America last weekend, so the meeting time in UTC is an hour earlier than before. If you do not observe daylight savings time, or your clocks did not yet go forward, the meeting will be an hour earlier in your local time. Please double check! If you have time this weekend, you can take a look at the proposed or accepted blockers before the meeting - the full lists can be found here: https://qa.fedoraproject.org/blockerbugs/ . Remember, you can also now vote on bugs outside of review meetings! If you look at the bug list in the blockerbugs app, you'll see links labeled "Vote!" next to all proposed blockers and freeze exceptions. Those links take you to tickets where you can vote. https://pagure.io/fedora-qa/blocker-review has instructions on how exactly you do it. We usually go through the tickets shortly before the meeting and apply any clear votes, so the meeting will just cover bugs where there wasn't a clear outcome in the ticket voting yet. **THIS MEANS IF YOU VOTE NOW, THE MEETING WILL BE SHORTER!** We'll be evaluating these bugs to see if they violate any of the Release Criteria and warrant the blocking of a release if they're not fixed. Information on the release criteria for F38 can be found on the wiki [0]. For more information about the Blocker and Freeze exception process, check out these links: - https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/QA:SOP_blocker_bug_process - https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/QA:SOP_freeze_exception_bug_process And for those of you who are curious how a Blocker Review Meeting works - or how it's supposed to go and you want to run one - check out the SOP on the wiki: - https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/QA:SOP_Blocker_Bug_Meeting Have a good day and see you tomorrow! [0] https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Fedora_Release_Criteria -- Adam Williamson (he/him/his) Fedora QA Fedora Chat: @adamwill:fedora.im | Mastodon: @adamw(a)fosstodon.org https://www.happyassassin.net

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Fedora Workstation WG minutes, 2023-03-14

by Chris Murphy

============================================== #fedora-meeting-2: Workstation WG (2023-03-14) ============================================== Meeting started by brainycmurf at 13:59:19 UTC. The full logs are available at https://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-meeting-2/2023-03-16/workstation... . Meeting summary --------------- * Present members: Michael, Owen, Matthias, Allan, Tom, Chris, Jens, Neal (brainycmurf, 13:59:43) * Guests: jgrulich, sumantro (brainycmurf, 13:59:43) * Regrets: Kalev (brainycmurf, 13:59:43) * Missing: (brainycmurf, 13:59:43) * Secretary: Allan (brainycmurf, 13:59:43) * Reconsider use of adwaita-qt (brainycmurf, 13:59:44) * LINK: https://pagure.io/fedora-workstation/issue/351 (brainycmurf, 13:59:46) * LINK: https://jgrulich.cz/2023/03/08/explained-qgnomeplatform-and-adwaita-qt/ (brainycmurf, 13:59:52) * LINK: https://copr.fedorainfracloud.org/coprs/jgrulich/Qt_and_GNOME_integration/ (brainycmurf, 13:59:56) * LINK: https://pagure.io/fedora-workstation/issue/351#comment-845312 (brainycmurf, 14:00:12) * AGREED: We'll stop using adwaita-qt for apps. Michael to summarise in the ticket. (brainycmurf, 14:00:30) * Fedora test day QA results (brainycmurf, 14:00:37) * LINK: https://testdays.fedoraproject.org/events/150 (brainycmurf, 14:00:39) * LINK: https://testdays.fedoraproject.org/events/151 (brainycmurf, 14:00:41) * LINK: https://github.com/fedoradesign/backgrounds/issues/48 (brainycmurf, 14:00:49) * LINK: https://github.com/fedoradesign/backgrounds/issues/47 (brainycmurf, 14:00:51) * Fedora 38 final blockers (brainycmurf, 14:00:53) * LINK: https://qa.fedoraproject.org/blockerbugs/milestone/38/final/buglist (brainycmurf, 14:00:55) * 1: evince: Evince crashes when closing a PDF (a race condition) - MODIFIED (brainycmurf, 14:01:07) * LINK: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=2178016 (brainycmurf, 14:01:09) * 2: gnome-calendar: After a few searches, search no longer works and cpu is at 100% - POST (brainycmurf, 14:01:13) * LINK: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=2177992 (brainycmurf, 14:01:15) * 3: gnome-calendar: Crash/Hang when clicking a modified Google event right after editing it (due to the preview popover) - NEW (brainycmurf, 14:01:19) * LINK: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=2177993 / https://gitlab.gnome.org/GNOME/gnome-calendar/-/issues/986 (brainycmurf, 14:01:22) * 4: gnome-maps: A quick movement breaks tile rendering, gets you banned at the server - POST (brainycmurf, 14:01:27) * LINK: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=2177995 (brainycmurf, 14:01:29) * 5: mutter: Crash when using Win+P shortcut - NEW (brainycmurf, 14:01:35) * LINK: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=2177982 / https://gitlab.gnome.org/GNOME/mutter/-/issues/2694 (brainycmurf, 14:01:37) * 1: gnome-shell: Logout/reboot/poweroff timeout leaves the session in a broken state, doesn't perform the action - NEW (brainycmurf, 14:01:44) * LINK: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=2177853 / https://gitlab.gnome.org/GNOME/gnome-shell/-/issues/6506 (brainycmurf, 14:01:47) * 2: gtk4: With GTK 4.9.1 , Nautilus' target for "Move To" or "Copy To" operations is unexpected and can be invalid - POST (brainycmurf, 14:01:52) * LINK: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=2173891 (brainycmurf, 14:01:55) * 3: mutter: Session crash when reverting Display settings - POST (brainycmurf, 14:01:59) * LINK: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=2175809 (brainycmurf, 14:02:01) * 4: nautilus: Dragging files is Nautilus doesn't work as expected, quick movements result in a selection box instead - NEW (brainycmurf, 14:02:07) * LINK: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=2176766 / https://gitlab.gnome.org/GNOME/nautilus/-/issues/2844#note_1697453 (brainycmurf, 14:02:10) * Broadcom wireless (brainycmurf, 14:02:16) * LINK: https://pagure.io/fedora-workstation/issue/116 (brainycmurf, 14:02:18) * Announcements and status updates (brainycmurf, 14:02:22) * GUADEC 2023 call for papers is open until March 27th (brainycmurf, 14:02:24) * LINK: https://foundation.gnome.org/2023/02/24/guadec-2023-cfp/ (brainycmurf, 14:02:26) * Last week's meeting minutes posted (brainycmurf, 14:02:28) * LINK: https://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-meeting-2/2023-03-09/workstation... (brainycmurf, 14:02:30) Meeting ended at 14:04:05 UTC. Action Items ------------ Action Items, by person ----------------------- * **UNASSIGNED** * (none) People Present (lines said) --------------------------- * brainycmurf (79) * zodbot (7) * Michael (0) Generated by `MeetBot`_ 0.4 .. _`MeetBot`: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Zodbot#Meeting_Functions

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March 21, 2023 Workstation WG Meeting (secretary: Jens)

by Michael Catanzaro

Hi all, The next meeting of the Fedora Workstation Working Group is planned for Tuesday, March 21, at 10:00 AM EDT (14:00 UTC). Note that due to Daylight Savings Time, the time has changed from the previous meeting time 10:00 AM EST (15:00 UTC). We are going to lose access to BlueJeans at the end of the month, so we need to find a new home for our video meetings. Let's try Jitsi Meet. Join link: https://meet.jit.si/FedoraWorkstationWG Agenda: #topic Discuss proposal of having Web UI installer for Fedora 39 Workstation #link https://pagure.io/fedora-workstation/issue/362 #topic Fedora 38 beta blockers #link https://qa.fedoraproject.org/blockerbugs/milestone/38/beta/buglist #topic Fedora 38 final blockers #link https://qa.fedoraproject.org/blockerbugs/milestone/38/final/buglist #topic Broadcom wireless #link https://pagure.io/fedora-workstation/issue/116 #topic Announcements and status updates

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[Fedocal] Reminder meeting : Workstation WG

by catanzaro＠fedoraproject.org

Dear all, You are kindly invited to the meeting: Workstation WG on 2023-03-14 from 10:00:00 to 10:50:00 US/Eastern At https://bluejeans.com/395383051/ The meeting will be about: Regular meeting for the Workstation Working Group Current Topics: https://pagure.io/fedora-workstation/issues?status=Open&tags=meeting Etherpad: https://etherpad.opensuse.org/p/fedora-workstation-wg More information available at: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Workstation Source: https://calendar.fedoraproject.org//meeting/10448/

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2023-03-13 @ **16:00** UTC - Fedora 38 Blocker Review Meeting

by Adam Williamson

# F37 Blocker Review meeting # Date: 2023-03-13 # Time: **16:00** UTC # Location: #fedora-blocker-review on irc.libera.chat Hi folks! We have 11 proposed Final blockers to review, so let's have a review meeting. Note that clocks went forward in North America this weekend, so the meeting time in UTC is an hour earlier than before. If you do not observe daylight savings time, or your clocks did not yet go forward, the meeting will be an hour earlier in your local time. Please double check! If you have time this weekend, you can take a look at the proposed or accepted blockers before the meeting - the full lists can be found here: https://qa.fedoraproject.org/blockerbugs/ . Remember, you can also now vote on bugs outside of review meetings! If you look at the bug list in the blockerbugs app, you'll see links labeled "Vote!" next to all proposed blockers and freeze exceptions. Those links take you to tickets where you can vote. https://pagure.io/fedora-qa/blocker-review has instructions on how exactly you do it. We usually go through the tickets shortly before the meeting and apply any clear votes, so the meeting will just cover bugs where there wasn't a clear outcome in the ticket voting yet. **THIS MEANS IF YOU VOTE NOW, THE MEETING WILL BE SHORTER!** We'll be evaluating these bugs to see if they violate any of the Release Criteria and warrant the blocking of a release if they're not fixed. Information on the release criteria for F38 can be found on the wiki [0]. For more information about the Blocker and Freeze exception process, check out these links: - https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/QA:SOP_blocker_bug_process - https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/QA:SOP_freeze_exception_bug_process And for those of you who are curious how a Blocker Review Meeting works - or how it's supposed to go and you want to run one - check out the SOP on the wiki: - https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/QA:SOP_Blocker_Bug_Meeting Have a good day and see you tomorrow! [0] https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Fedora_Release_Criteria -- Adam Williamson (he/him/his) Fedora QA Fedora Chat: @adamwill:fedora.im | Mastodon: @adamw(a)fosstodon.org https://www.happyassassin.net

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Re: Fedora Linux 38 blocker status summary

by Ben Cotton

The current target release date is the early target date (2023-03-14). Action summary ==================== Accepted blockers ----------------- 1. distribution — Workstation boot x86_64 image exceeds maximum size — ASSIGNED ACTION: Workstation WG to reduce image size or increase the limit 2. kwin — kwin_wayland often crashed when used as the sddm Wayland compositor and logging out of Plasma resulting in a black screen — ON_QA ACTION: QA to verify FEDORA-2023-81ff51758d Proposed blockers ----------------- 1. gdb — Can't open file anon_inode:i915.gem which was expanded to anon_inode:i915.gem during file-backed mapping note processing — NEW ACTION: Maintainer to diagnose issue 2. pkgconf — Don't depend on system-rpm-config — ON_QA ACTION: QA to verify FEDORA-2023-766817d642 Bug-by-bug detail ============= Accepted blockers ----------------- 1. distribution — https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=2149246 — ASSIGNED Workstation boot x86_64 image exceeds maximum size Changes to linux-firmware briefly brought the Worktation image below the limit. However, the Fedora-38-20230216.n.0 went above the limit again. 2. kwin — https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=2168034 — ON_QA kwin_wayland often crashed when used as the sddm Wayland compositor and logging out of Plasma resulting in a black screen Logging out of Plasma sometimes triggers a kwin crash. FEDORA-2023-81ff51758d contains a candidate fix. Proposed blockers ----------------- 1. gdb — https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=2172342 — NEW Can't open file anon_inode:i915.gem which was expanded to anon_inode:i915.gem during file-backed mapping note processing Reporting a bug with gnome-abrt fails because no fram and no thread found in the backtrace that gdb produces. 2. pkgconf — https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=2172406 — ON_QA Don't depend on system-rpm-config pkgconf pulls in ~22 new packages as a runtime dependency, which don't appear to be strictly necessary. FEDORA-2023-766817d642 contains a candidate fix. -- Ben Cotton He / Him / His Fedora Program Manager Red Hat TZ=America/Indiana/Indianapolis

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Fedora Workstation WG minutes, 2023-03-07

by Chris Murphy

============================================== #fedora-meeting-2: Workstation WG (2023-03-07) ============================================== Meeting started by brainycmurf at 02:08:36 UTC. The full logs are available at https://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-meeting-2/2023-03-09/workstation... . Meeting summary --------------- * Present members: Matthias, Chris, Allan, Neal, Owen, Tomas, Michael (brainycmurf, 02:08:48) * Guests: (brainycmurf, 02:08:48) * Regrets: Jens (brainycmurf, 02:08:48) * Secretary: Kalev (brainycmurf, 02:08:48) * Fedora 38 beta blockers (brainycmurf, 02:08:48) * LINK: https://qa.fedoraproject.org/blockerbugs/milestone/38/beta/buglist (brainycmurf, 02:08:49) * We have consensus to waive the image being over size for Beta and investigate the size more before Final. (brainycmurf, 02:08:56) * 1: crypto-policies: Insecure installed RPMs (like Google Chrome) prevent system updates in F38, can't be removed - ON_QA (brainycmurf, 02:09:05) * LINK: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=2170878 (brainycmurf, 02:09:08) * Fedora 38 final blockers (brainycmurf, 02:09:12) * LINK: https://qa.fedoraproject.org/blockerbugs/milestone/38/final/buglist (brainycmurf, 02:09:14) * 1: fedora-workstation-repositories: workstation repos contain Google Chrome repo, but Chrome can't be installed - NEW (brainycmurf, 02:09:20) * LINK: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=2170839 (brainycmurf, 02:09:25) * 2: gnome-boxes: Boxes seem to end up in a loop when trying to create a new VM. - POST (brainycmurf, 02:09:27) * LINK: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=2175708 (brainycmurf, 02:09:29) * 3: gnome-control-center: Session crash when reverting Display settings - NEW (brainycmurf, 02:09:31) * LINK: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=2175809 (brainycmurf, 02:09:33) * 4: gnome-tour: gnome-tour segfaults - VERIFIED (brainycmurf, 02:09:35) * LINK: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=2175648 (brainycmurf, 02:09:37) * 5: gtk4: With GTK 4.9.1 , Nautilus' target for "Move To" or "Copy To" operations is unexpected and can be invalid (brainycmurf, 02:09:39) * LINK: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=2173891 (brainycmurf, 02:09:42) * 6: mutter: XWayland apps steal focus - ON_QA (brainycmurf, 02:09:44) * LINK: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=2173985 (brainycmurf, 02:09:46) * 1: gnome-shell: reboot/poweroff/logout from GNOME are 60 seconds delayed without 3D acceleration - VERIFIED (brainycmurf, 02:09:50) * LINK: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=2174753 (brainycmurf, 02:09:55) * encryption of user data (excludes system) (brainycmurf, 02:09:57) * LINK: https://pagure.io/fedora-workstation/issue/82 (brainycmurf, 02:09:59) * ACTION: Owen and Neal to write a plan and bring it back to the WG to review (brainycmurf, 02:10:08) * encryption of system data (excludes user) (brainycmurf, 02:10:10) * LINK: https://pagure.io/fedora-workstation/issue/136 (brainycmurf, 02:10:12) * Announcements and status updates (brainycmurf, 02:10:14) * Daylight Savings Time: next meeting moves from 10:00 EST (15:00 UTC) to 10:00 EDT (14:00 UTC) (brainycmurf, 02:10:16) * F38 / GNOME 44 test week is happening (brainycmurf, 02:10:19) * LINK: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Test_Day:2023-03-06_Fedora_38_GNOME_44_Des... (brainycmurf, 02:10:21) * LINK: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Test_Day:2023-03-09_Fedora_38_GNOME_44_Apps (brainycmurf, 02:10:25) * GUADEC 2023 call for papers is open until March 27th (brainycmurf, 02:10:27) * LINK: https://foundation.gnome.org/2023/02/24/guadec-2023-cfp/ (brainycmurf, 02:10:29) * Last week's meeting minutes posted (brainycmurf, 02:10:31) * LINK: https://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-meeting-2/2023-02-28/workstation... (brainycmurf, 02:10:33) Meeting ended at 02:10:36 UTC. Action Items ------------ * Owen and Neal to write a plan and bring it back to the WG to review Action Items, by person ----------------------- * **UNASSIGNED** * Owen and Neal to write a plan and bring it back to the WG to review People Present (lines said) --------------------------- * brainycmurf (53) * zodbot (7) * Michael (0) Generated by `MeetBot`_ 0.4 .. _`MeetBot`: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Zodbot#Meeting_Functions

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March 14, 2023 Workstation WG Meeting (secretary: Jens)

by Michael Catanzaro

Hi all, The next meeting of the Fedora Workstation Working Group is planned for Tuesday, March 14, at 10:00 AM EDT (14:00 UTC). Note that due to Daylight Savings Time, the time has changed from the previous meeting time 10:00 AM EST (15:00 UTC). Join links: - https://bluejeans.com/395383051/ - https://www.bluejeans.com/numbers Agenda: #topic Fedora 38 beta blockers #link https://qa.fedoraproject.org/blockerbugs/milestone/38/beta/buglist #topic Fedora 38 final blockers #link https://qa.fedoraproject.org/blockerbugs/milestone/38/final/buglist #topic Reconsider use of adwaita-qt #link https://pagure.io/fedora-workstation/issue/351 #topic Broadcom wireless #link https://pagure.io/fedora-workstation/issue/116 #topic Announcements and status updates

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March 7, 2023 Workstation WG Meeting (secretary: Jens)

by Michael Catanzaro

Hi all, The next meeting of the Fedora Workstation Working Group is planned for Tuesday, March 7, at 10:00 AM EST (15:00 UTC). This will be the last meeting held at 10:00 AM EST. Due to daylight savings time, the meeting on Tuesday, March 14 will be held at 10:00 AM EDT (14:00 UTC). Join links: - https://bluejeans.com/395383051/ - https://www.bluejeans.com/numbers Agenda: #topic Fedora 38 beta blockers #link https://qa.fedoraproject.org/blockerbugs/milestone/38/beta/buglist #topic Fedora 38 final blockers #link https://qa.fedoraproject.org/blockerbugs/milestone/38/final/buglist #topic encryption of user data (excludes system) #link https://pagure.io/fedora-workstation/issue/82 #topic encryption of system data (excludes user) #link https://pagure.io/fedora-workstation/issue/136 #topic Announcements and status updates #info Last week's meeting minutes posted #link https://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-meeting-2/2023-02-28/workstation...

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