On Tue, Aug 04, 2015 at 11:35:40AM -0400, Bastien Nocera wrote:
> > It's important for workstation, because:
> > - we can deploy the same applications we do on workstation
> Can you expand on that point?
It's a useful form factor to create kiosk type applications, at least, and
I don't see kiosks as a target in
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https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Workstation/Workstation_PRD#Target_Audienc...
(nor do I think it should be).
because it's a SoC, it's a sign of things to come, in terms
of
hardware, for the whole of the x86 platform:
- MMC/SDIO connected devices
- GPIO connected devices
- MIPI webcams
But surely these 32-bit tablets aren't the only good place where these
things can be worked on?
> > - they're an inexpensive way to get touchscreens, and
sensors in
> > the hands of our users and developers
> Moderately useful, but is it a priority _over_ everything else here?
We need touchscreen support because that's where laptops are heading.
We need sensor support, because we want to be able to use those
sensors to make power savings, and make the devices more useful in
general.
I don't disagree. But I'm not at all convinced that this is really the
best way to get it. To put it another way, it may *appear* to be an
inexpensive way, but there are significant _other_ costs (hence this
whole thread).
> > - Fedlet can't support Secure Boot
> I think it can; it's just more of a pain. Someone would need to pay
> $99, once. And if Fedlet used the stock Fedora kernel, it would just
> work, right?
No, because the 32-bit bootloader isn't signed, because we don't support
booting a 32-bit OS with a 32-bit UEFI. If we had EFI mixed support, we'd
sign the 32-bit shim and grub and boot the 64-bit kernel (already signed).
So, I wish we could prioritise getting EFI mixed support working, so
that the only 2 packages we need to ship as i686 packages are grub
and shim.
^ Example expense. Why prioritize that over other things, when we can
just get different devel hardware instead?
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Matthew Miller
<mattdm(a)fedoraproject.org>
Fedora Project Leader