On Thu, 2008-07-10 at 09:44 -0400, Jesse Keating wrote: > Every single time I log out of gnome or shut down / reboot from the > gnome menu a few of my apps act as if they were kill -9'd and throw up > recovery messages that frighten/confuse users. Why? Why can't we as we > log out/shut down 'cleanly' close these applications? Why must > everything be 'dirty' upon login? Session management is in a somewhat broken state right now. I've sent my emissaries to Guadec to sort things out...

to., 10.07.2008 kl. 09.53 -0400, skrev Matthias Clasen: > On Thu, 2008-07-10 at 09:44 -0400, Jesse Keating wrote: > > Every single time I log out of gnome or shut down / reboot from the > > gnome menu a few of my apps act as if they were kill -9'd and throw up > > recovery messages that frighten/confuse users. Why? Why can't we as we > > log out/shut down 'cleanly' close these applications? Why must > > everything be 'dirty' upon login? > > Session management is in a somewhat broken state right now. > I've sent my emissaries to Guadec to sort things out... > Is this also the reason why I can't see the reboot and shut down buttons when I choose System->Shut down? The dialog that opens just has Hibernate, Suspend and Cancel buttons.

On Mon, 2008-07-14 at 10:27 -0400, Matthias Clasen wrote: > On Sun, 2008-07-13 at 13:41 +0200, Kjartan Maraas wrote: > > to., 10.07.2008 kl. 09.53 -0400, skrev Matthias Clasen: > > > On Thu, 2008-07-10 at 09:44 -0400, Jesse Keating wrote: > > > > Every single time I log out of gnome or shut down / reboot from the > > > > gnome menu a few of my apps act as if they were kill -9'd and throw up > > > > recovery messages that frighten/confuse users. Why? Why can't we as we > > > > log out/shut down 'cleanly' close these applications? Why must > > > > everything be 'dirty' upon login? > > > > > > Session management is in a somewhat broken state right now. > > > I've sent my emissaries to Guadec to sort things out... > > > > > Is this also the reason why I can't see the reboot and shut down buttons > > when I choose System->Shut down? > > > > The dialog that opens just has Hibernate, Suspend and Cancel buttons. > > Yes, same reason. There's a bug filed about it: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=452639 Matthias, could you look at that bug and see if it's filed in the right place (it's currently against gnome-panel), and (if possible) give an update on the status? It's something I'd like to see fixed for F10Alpha..