6:08 p.m.
…and I too. :)
In the release blog post of GNOME v3.24, the recipes application was promised:
This release also includes a new Recipes application, which contains
recipes contributed by members of the GNOME community. It has an extensive set of features
for adding and editing recipes, creating shopping lists, adjusting quantities and even has
a hands-free cooking mode.
https://www.gnome.org/news/2017/03/gnome-3-24-released/
Now, Fedora 26 is using v 3.24, but this application is not there?
This should be fixed until the final Fedora 26 release as, well…, it has been promised.
And breaking promises is not good. It makes users sad… ;)
Originially raised in https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1462008, where Zbigniew
Jędrzejewski-Szmek also commented:
I think it would be a shame not to package it in time for F26 final.
I agree… so could someone help here?
Best regards,
rugk
1:57 a.m.
On 06/16/2017 01:08 AM, rugk wrote:
…and I too. :)
In the release blog post of GNOME v3.24, the recipes application was promised:
> This release also includes a new Recipes application, which contains recipes
contributed by members of the GNOME community. It has an extensive set of features for
adding and editing recipes, creating shopping lists, adjusting quantities and even has a
hands-free cooking mode.
https://www.gnome.org/news/2017/03/gnome-3-24-released/
Now, Fedora 26 is using v 3.24, but this application is not there?
This should be fixed until the final Fedora 26 release as, well…, it has been promised.
And breaking promises is not good. It makes users sad… ;)
Originially raised in https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1462008, where
Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek also commented:
> I think it would be a shame not to package it in time for F26 final.
I agree… so could someone help here?
mclasen wants to distribute gnome-recipes as flatpak-only and not as an
rpm, so I've kept off packaging it for Fedora.
--
Kalev
11:36 a.m.
On Fri, 2017-06-16 at 08:44 -0500, Michael Catanzaro wrote:
On Fri, Jun 16, 2017 at 1:57 AM, Kalev Lember
<kalevlember(a)gmail.com>
wrote:
> mclasen wants to distribute gnome-recipes as flatpak-only and not
> as
> an
> rpm, so I've kept off packaging it for Fedora.
So how shall we get it into GNOME Software?
Fwiw, I don't think having recipes prominently featured in GNOME
Software is very critical. If you want to install it, going to
http://flatpak.org/apps.html
and installing it from there should be a one-click affair.
2:47 a.m.
Hi all,
I will always prefer to do dnf install something than dealing with
flatpak or similar stuff.I have flatpak installed just because of
Recipes and I have to update it separatedly, it doesn't update itself
with the rest of the stuff (dnf update) which is quite annoying. So
if you don't mind Matthias, I would like it packaged, either by me or
someone else.
Cheers,Silvia
PS: I understand Matthias Clasen's point of view, but still. I prefer
it packaged.
On Fri, 2017-06-16 at 12:36 -0400, Matthias Clasen wrote:
On Fri, 2017-06-16 at 08:44 -0500, Michael Catanzaro wrote:
> On Fri, Jun 16, 2017 at 1:57 AM, Kalev Lember <kalevlember(a)gmail.co
> m>
>
> wrote:
> > mclasen wants to distribute gnome-recipes as flatpak-only and not
> > as
> > an
> > rpm, so I've kept off packaging it for Fedora.
>
> So how shall we get it into GNOME Software?
>
Fwiw, I don't think having recipes prominently featured in GNOME
Software is very critical. If you want to install it, going to
http://flatpak.org/apps.html
and installing it from there should be a one-click affair.
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9:46 a.m.
On Tue, 2017-06-20 at 09:47 +0200, Silvia Sanchez wrote:
Hi all,
I will always prefer to do dnf install something than dealing with
flatpak or similar stuff.
I have flatpak installed just because of Recipes and I have to update
it separatedly, it doesn't update itself with the rest of the stuff
(dnf update) which is quite annoying. So if you don't mind Matthias,
I would like it packaged, either by me or someone else.
I obviously can't prevent anybody from putting something into Fedora or
any other distribution, even against the wishes of the upstream author
(even if that upstream author is me).
Just know that recipes was written in large part as a testbed for
flatpak sandboxing and portals, and I want it to be distributed as a
flatpak.
11:07 a.m.
On 20 June 2017 at 08:47, Silvia Sanchez <bhkohane(a)gmail.com> wrote:
I have flatpak installed just because of Recipes and I have to update
it
separatedly, it doesn't update itself with the rest of the stuff (dnf
update) which is quite annoying.
If you use gnome-software it will be kept up-to-date, and you can even
install updates "live" unlike package updates...
Richard.
1:43 p.m.
I will take a look into it. Anyway, if Matthias Clasen is really
against it... well, so be it. I guess I'll have to deal with Flatpak
anyway.
Cheers and thanks,Sylvia
On Tue, 2017-06-20 at 17:07 +0100, Richard Hughes wrote:
On 20 June 2017 at 08:47, Silvia Sanchez <bhkohane(a)gmail.com>
wrote:
> I have flatpak installed just because of Recipes and I have to
> update it
> separatedly, it doesn't update itself with the rest of the stuff
> (dnf
> update) which is quite annoying.
If you use gnome-software it will be kept up-to-date, and you can
even
install updates "live" unlike package updates...
Richard.
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7:48 a.m.
So no news? Sad that Fedora 26 does not come with GNOME Recipes as it may be expected, as
it's released today.
10:43 a.m.
Yes, but the easiest and cleanest way for all users, technical and non-
technical, experienced and newcomers, is searching and installing from
repositories.
On Tue, 2017-07-11 at 09:05 -0400, Matthias Clasen wrote:
On Tue, 2017-07-11 at 12:48 +0000, rugk wrote:
> So no news? Sad that Fedora 26 does not come with GNOME Recipes as
> it
> may be expected, as it's released today.
>
You can install the flatpak with one click.
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11:14 p.m.
On Sat, 2017-07-15 at 17:43 +0200, Silvia Sanchez wrote:
Yes, but the easiest and cleanest way for all users, technical and
non-technical, experienced and newcomers, is searching and installing
from repositories.
It's an interesting predicament. A vanilla Fedora installation is
missing a neat, new piece of GNOME. This *could* gracefully be handled
by enabling the flathub remote during installation. Except flathub also
contains non-free software such as Spotify. That goes against the
Fedora "free" way. Could flathub to split into two remotes: free and
non-free?
~link
9:08 a.m.
On Sat, 2017-07-15 at 17:43 +0200, Silvia Sanchez wrote:
Yes, but the easiest and cleanest way for all users, technical and
non-technical, experienced and newcomers, is searching and installing
from repositories.
Once you enable the corresponding repository, you will have just the
same experience with flatpaks hosted there than with rpms hosted in
fedora repositories. Currently this is at the same level of convenience
as a copr repository. The end goal should be to make it easy to enable
a few important flatpak repositories during initial setup.
But I think users are less picky about this than we like to think. It
is not a huge deal to click on a link once to install something. What
is a huge deal though is that after this initial install, updates will
work just the same way as for the rest of the system, and they are
unlikely to break the rest of your system.
3:17 p.m.
Yes, please. Personally I do not really care, whether flatpak is used or not. For the
end-user this does not matter or is at least only a small detail.
In any case one should be install it from GNOME software. This is where all users should
(& can) install software from.
BTW. When I installed the flatpak from http://flatpak.org/apps.html I only got the English
version… Maybe it is not yet translated? (to German)
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