Help me use 'intel' over 'nvidia'
by Rodd Clarkson
Hi All
I'm setting up a mythtv box and I recently had the opportunity to update
my motherboard. I had been using a board with added nvidia 9x00
graphics card and it was working well except that the fan on the
graphics card was noisy.
I did some research with regards to a new card to get, keen to get a
card with reasonable on board graphics that would handle big lcd
displays and also with hdmi and digital/coax outputs.
In the end I had the choise of two boards. One with an intel graphics
chipset (x4500) and one with an nivida chipset (7100) and given to
ongoing conversation on this list about using vendors that support open
source drivers I decided to go with the intel board. (I'd done some
other research that suggested that the graphics device was supported
including Intels website and fedora documentation (clearly not the right
fedora documentation)).
You can imagine my disappointment when I couldn't even get X running on
the new board with the intel drivers (I've tried 'i810' and 'intel',
that later of which seems to be much more likely to actually work.)
So, I've got two choices.
1. Give up and put the nvidia graphics card on the board. This has a
number of downfalls. It brings the noisy fan back into play. It also
sees me without hdmi. But, the nvidia driver works well with this card,
so at least I get decent graphics.
2. Find out what's up with the 'intel' card and get it working. Sadly,
I'm not skilled in these areas (even though I've been testing fedora
since fc1) and need help.
I've asked twice (once on f-d-l and once on f-t-l) and both times my
emails have been ignored.
I've also posted a detailed bug on bugzilla (see:
https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=487619) but haven't had any
response yet.
I won't attach any log files or other info as it's all in the bug report
and it would just be excess traffic on the list.
Can someone help?
regards
Rodd
--
"It's a fine line between denial and faith.
It's much better on my side"
15 years, 1 month
Files in the directory excep some included as doc
by Pierre-Yves Chibon
Dear list,
I am wondering if there is any trick that could make me able to say in
the %file section of a spec file
include all what's in the directory foo
except bar
include bar as %doc
(bar in contained in the directory foo)
Any hints would be appreciated,
Thanks,
Pierre
15 years, 1 month
Draft guidelines for approving provenpackager
by Jesse Keating
We don't currently have guidelines for granting access to proven
packager. I took a work item from FESCo to create a draft for this, and
here is my first stab at it (words in camelcase exist to be replaced
with links to pages concerning them):
Provenpackager is a group of highly skilled package maintainers who are
experienced in a wide variety of package types and who are intimately
familiar with the PackagingGuidelines and MaintainerPolicies as well as
acutely aware of ReleaseSchedules and FreezePolicies. They exist as a
group to lend a hand when help is needed, always with a desire to
improve the quality of Fedora. By granting membership into
provenpackager for a maintainer you are confirming that at least in your
mind they meet the above criteria and that you would trust them fully
with any of the packages you either maintain or even just use.
--
Jesse Keating
Fedora -- Freedom² is a feature!
identi.ca: http://identi.ca/jkeating
15 years, 1 month
Installing with separate /home partition & bug #150670
by Lex Hider
Bug 150670 is almost 4 years old.
https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=150670
I'd like to see if we can get agreement on changing the default
partitioning in anaconda to separate /home & "/".
I think this is vital, especially since live upgrades aren't
"officially" supported, and many support docs recommend separating "/" &
home, and doing a clean install when upgrading fedora versions.
Here is a roundup of relevant stuff from wiki, bugzilla, lists.
=============================================================
https://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-docs-list/2005-March/msg00012.html
Mailing list discussion from fedora-docs list.
from
http://docs.fedoraproject.org/install-guide/f10/en_US/sn-partitioning-adv...
"If you expect that you or other users will store data on the system,
create a separate partition for the /home directory within a volume
group. With a separate /home partition, you may upgrade or reinstall
Fedora without erasing user data files."
from
http://docs.fedoraproject.org/install-guide/f10/en_US/sn-upgrade-tree.html
"! Installations are Recommended.
In general, the Fedora Project recommends that you keep user data on a
separate /home partition and perform a fresh installation. For more
information on partitions and how to set them up, refer to Chapter 12,
Disk Partitioning."
from http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/DistributionUpgrades
"Tips.
* It's a good idea to have a backup of your system before performing an
upgrade. If you have /home in a separate logical volume or partition, it
makes backing up user data easier. This is a feature requested for the
Fedora Installer. See Bug 150670 for more on this."
* Doing a clean installation and then restoring user data from backups
is known to work better."
from: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/YumUpgradeFaq
"Although upgrades with yum have been tested and work, live upgrades are
not recommended by the Fedora Project. If you are not prepared to
resolve issues on your own if things break, you should probably use the
recommend installation methods instead.
The recommended installation method is with a boot media with the
Anaconda installer as detailed in the Installation Guide"
Proposals for /home, "/" split:
========================================
Here's a breakdown of proposals from bug report:
* smaller of 50/50 or 20Gb for "/". /home gets rest.
from https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=150670#c17:
"Autopartitioning logic:
/boot --size=100
/ --size=400 --grow --maxsize=20048
/home --size=100 --grow"
* smaller of 50/50 or 10Gb for "/". /home gets rest.
* don't separate /home from "/"
* don't allocate all disk space so can increase sizes
later.
The 1st one seemed to get the most agreement.
Can we please decided once and for all on the best default partition scheme.
Thanks,
Lex.
PS - remember we're talking about the default, and us advanced users can
always custom partition to our hearts content.
Bug 150670 is almost 4 years old.
https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=150670
I'd like to see if we can get agreement on changing the default
partitioning in anaconda to separate /home & "/".
I think this is vital, especially since live upgrades aren't
"officially" supported, and many support docs recommend separating "/" &
home, and doing a clean install when upgrading fedora versions.
Here is a roundup of relevant stuff from wiki, bugzilla, lists.
=============================================================
https://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-docs-list/2005-March/msg00012.html
Mailing list discussion from fedora-docs list.
from
http://docs.fedoraproject.org/install-guide/f10/en_US/sn-partitioning-adv...
"If you expect that you or other users will store data on the system,
create a separate partition for the /home directory within a volume
group. With a separate /home partition, you may upgrade or reinstall
Fedora without erasing user data files."
from
http://docs.fedoraproject.org/install-guide/f10/en_US/sn-upgrade-tree.html
"! Installations are Recommended.
In general, the Fedora Project recommends that you keep user data on a
separate /home partition and perform a fresh installation. For more
information on partitions and how to set them up, refer to Chapter 12,
Disk Partitioning."
from http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/DistributionUpgrades
"Tips.
* It's a good idea to have a backup of your system before performing an
upgrade. If you have /home in a separate logical volume or partition, it
makes backing up user data easier. This is a feature requested for the
Fedora Installer. See Bug 150670 for more on this."
* Doing a clean installation and then restoring user data from backups
is known to work better."
from: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/YumUpgradeFaq
"Although upgrades with yum have been tested and work, live upgrades are
not recommended by the Fedora Project. If you are not prepared to
resolve issues on your own if things break, you should probably use the
recommend installation methods instead.
The recommended installation method is with a boot media with the
Anaconda installer as detailed in the Installation Guide"
Proposals for /home, "/" split:
========================================
Here's a breakdown of proposals from bug report:
* smaller of 50/50 or 20Gb for "/". /home gets rest.
from https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=150670#c17:
"Autopartitioning logic:
/boot --size=100
/ --size=400 --grow --maxsize=20048
/home --size=100 --grow"
* smaller of 50/50 or 10Gb for "/". /home gets rest.
* don't separate /home from "/"
* don't allocate all disk space so can increase sizes
later.
The 1st one seemed to get the most agreement.
Can we please decided once and for all on the best default partition scheme.
Thanks,
Lex.
PS - remember we're talking about the default, and us advanced users can
always custom partition to our hearts content.
Bug 150670 is almost 4 years old.
https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=150670
I'd like to see if we can get agreement on changing the default
partitioning in anaconda to separate /home & "/".
I think this is vital, especially since live upgrades aren't
"officially" supported, and many support docs recommend separating "/" &
home, and doing a clean install when upgrading fedora versions.
Here is a roundup of relevant stuff from wiki, bugzilla, lists.
=============================================================
https://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-docs-list/2005-March/msg00012.html
Mailing list discussion from fedora-docs list.
from
http://docs.fedoraproject.org/install-guide/f10/en_US/sn-partitioning-adv...
"If you expect that you or other users will store data on the system,
create a separate partition for the /home directory within a volume
group. With a separate /home partition, you may upgrade or reinstall
Fedora without erasing user data files."
from
http://docs.fedoraproject.org/install-guide/f10/en_US/sn-upgrade-tree.html
"! Installations are Recommended.
In general, the Fedora Project recommends that you keep user data on a
separate /home partition and perform a fresh installation. For more
information on partitions and how to set them up, refer to Chapter 12,
Disk Partitioning."
from http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/DistributionUpgrades
"Tips.
* It's a good idea to have a backup of your system before performing an
upgrade. If you have /home in a separate logical volume or partition, it
makes backing up user data easier. This is a feature requested for the
Fedora Installer. See Bug 150670 for more on this."
* Doing a clean installation and then restoring user data from backups
is known to work better."
from: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/YumUpgradeFaq
"Although upgrades with yum have been tested and work, live upgrades are
not recommended by the Fedora Project. If you are not prepared to
resolve issues on your own if things break, you should probably use the
recommend installation methods instead.
The recommended installation method is with a boot media with the
Anaconda installer as detailed in the Installation Guide"
Proposals for /home, "/" split:
========================================
Here's a breakdown of proposals from bug report:
* smaller of 50/50 or 20Gb for "/". /home gets rest.
from https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=150670#c17:
"Autopartitioning logic:
/boot --size=100
/ --size=400 --grow --maxsize=20048
/home --size=100 --grow"
* smaller of 50/50 or 10Gb for "/". /home gets rest.
* don't separate /home from "/"
* don't allocate all disk space so can increase sizes
later.
The 1st one seemed to get the most agreement.
Can we please decided once and for all on the best default partition scheme.
Thanks,
Lex.
PS - remember we're talking about the default, and us advanced users can
always custom partition to our hearts content.
Bug 150670 is almost 4 years old.
https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=150670
I'd like to see if we can get agreement on changing the default
partitioning in anaconda to separate /home & "/".
I think this is vital, especially since live upgrades aren't
"officially" supported, and many support docs recommend separating "/" &
home, and doing a clean install when upgrading fedora versions.
Here is a roundup of relevant stuff from wiki, bugzilla, lists.
=============================================================
https://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-docs-list/2005-March/msg00012.html
Mailing list discussion from fedora-docs list.
from
http://docs.fedoraproject.org/install-guide/f10/en_US/sn-partitioning-adv...
"If you expect that you or other users will store data on the system,
create a separate partition for the /home directory within a volume
group. With a separate /home partition, you may upgrade or reinstall
Fedora without erasing user data files."
from
http://docs.fedoraproject.org/install-guide/f10/en_US/sn-upgrade-tree.html
"! Installations are Recommended.
In general, the Fedora Project recommends that you keep user data on a
separate /home partition and perform a fresh installation. For more
information on partitions and how to set them up, refer to Chapter 12,
Disk Partitioning."
from http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/DistributionUpgrades
"Tips.
* It's a good idea to have a backup of your system before performing an
upgrade. If you have /home in a separate logical volume or partition, it
makes backing up user data easier. This is a feature requested for the
Fedora Installer. See Bug 150670 for more on this."
* Doing a clean installation and then restoring user data from backups
is known to work better."
from: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/YumUpgradeFaq
"Although upgrades with yum have been tested and work, live upgrades are
not recommended by the Fedora Project. If you are not prepared to
resolve issues on your own if things break, you should probably use the
recommend installation methods instead.
The recommended installation method is with a boot media with the
Anaconda installer as detailed in the Installation Guide"
Proposals for /home, "/" split:
========================================
Here's a breakdown of proposals from bug report:
* smaller of 50/50 or 20Gb for "/". /home gets rest.
from https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=150670#c17:
"Autopartitioning logic:
/boot --size=100
/ --size=400 --grow --maxsize=20048
/home --size=100 --grow"
* smaller of 50/50 or 10Gb for "/". /home gets rest.
* don't separate /home from "/"
* don't allocate all disk space so can increase sizes
later.
The 1st one seemed to get the most agreement.
Can we please decided once and for all on the best default partition scheme.
Thanks,
Lex.
PS - remember we're talking about the default, and us advanced users can
always custom partition to our hearts content.
15 years, 1 month
Mass rebuild, noarch and binary files
by Thibault North
I've been notified that avr-libc rebuild for F11 failed, and Koji says that it
is because this noarch package contains binary (error: Arch dependent
binaries in noarch package)
This is a normal behaviour, as avr-libc provides precompiled libraries for avr
microcontrolers, which are external devices.
After some googling, it seems that there is a maco to add in order to let koji
ignore that problem:
%_binaries_in_noarch_packages_terminate_build 0
(see https://fedorahosted.org/pipermail/cobbler/2009-February/003006.html)
Unfortunately, adding this line in the spec file (after %description) doesn't
fix the problem and the build continues failing.
What should I do to fix that ?
Thibault
15 years, 1 month
emacs font sizes
by Denis Leroy
Does anyone know what gee-wiz brain-dead emacs extension adjusts the
font sizes based on the screen DPI value ?? With my dual-screen setup
it's driving me bonkers. Don't mess with a man's font sizes I'm telling you.
15 years, 1 month