twinkle: Intent to retire
by Kevin Fenzi
Greetings.
I'm the current Fedora maintainer of the twinkle package.
Sadly, it's in poor shape:
- Segfaults on start in recent fedora versions (depending on config).
- Has not had an upstream release in 4+ years.
- Has not had any response from upstream maintainer in at least that
long.
- Uses Qt3 and a complex stack of c++ libraries.
- 8 open bugs:
https://apps.fedoraproject.org/packages/twinkle/bugs/all
Debian removed it last year, Arch moved it to a user repo instead of
the main repo last year.
So, I am going to retire this package in rawhide soon unless there's
folks with a very strong C++ background wishing to fix issues and
basically become the new upstream.
kevin
10 years, 8 months
Orphaning Docky
by Lukas Zapletal
Hello all,
although package Docky was lot of work for me (licensing patching etc) I
am no longer using it and last two releases were very unstable. There
are couple of bugzillas reported mainly because of gconf migration.
"""
Docky is an advanced shortcut bar that sits at the edges of your screen.
It provides easy access to some of the files, folders and applications
on your computer, displays which applications are currently running,
holds windows in their minimized state and more.
Docky is written in mono.
http://wiki.go-docky.com
"""
Please ping me if you are interested to maintain the package.
--
Later,
Lukas "lzap" Zapletal
#katello #systemengine
10 years, 8 months
Plan to drop php-pecl-apc from Fedora - Urgent review needed
by Remi Collet
Hi,
PHP opcode cache is a very important feature for sites with large traffic.
APC is mostly a dead project.
No stable release for php 5.4, lot of issues.
Upstream move most of dev resources to new "Zend OPcache" which will be
the official opcode cache, integrated in PHP 5.5.0
To be able to drop this package, we need
1/ php-pecl-zendopcache, the Zend OPcache for php 5.3 / 5.4
https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=911111
Target version is EPEL-6 and Fedora <= 18 as Fedora >= 19 already have
php-opcache (subpackage of main php, same code)
2/ php-pecl-apcu, APCu, the drop-in replacement of APC for user data cache.
https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=928196
Target versions : Fedora >= 18 and EPEL-6
Please, review this.
Remi.
10 years, 9 months
Re: [Fedora-spins] Where are the remaining F19 spins?
by Dennis Gilmore
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Christoph Wickert <christoph.wickert(a)gmail.com> wrote:
> Hi,
>
> back in April we discussed the F19 spins and it was widely agreed
> that http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Releases/19/Spins is the canonical
> list of approved spins that need to be produced. However this doesn't
> seem to be the case, I only see the desktop spins. In fact, that is
> not even true given that I cannot find MATE either.
>
> What does the spins SIG need to do in order to get the remaining
> spins?
We have for the last few releases composed the 5 main desktop spins
Gnome, KDE, LXDE, XFCE and SoaS for Alpha and Beta and in theory
nightlies have been used for QA. before making the 5 we only made KDE
and Gnome. QA has not been really happening as is evidenced by spins
regularly failing to compose, and being shipped DOA, as in the
design-Suite in F18 and Games being dropped for failing to compose. I
personally fixed a bunch of spins in F17.
For Fedora 19 I'm planning to only compose those 5 for GA also and I
will only be shipping them if they have been tested and signed off by
at least 3 people as working. This is due to Spins having been shipped
broken in the past. I think we need to stop pretending there is a spins
SIG as its not been functional or working for a few years.
Perhaps the question we really need to ask is how should we deploy and
install Fedora, Which is not something we can change or solve for f19
or probably even f20. An idea that comes to mind is to have package
selections and post install config tasks ship as kickstart snippets
with the DVD. we then use grub/syslinux to present a menu to the users
to have different frameworks that resemble the spins the kickstart is
fed to anaconda then at boot time or anaconda gives you the option to
select them.
Dennis
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10 years, 10 months
Soname bump libpng (rawhide) - new libraries libpng.16.so and libpng16.so.16.2.0
by Petr Hracek
Hi folks,
in order that BZ (https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=963113)
libpng library was bumped.
koji build: http://koji.fedoraproject.org/koji/taskinfo?taskID=5391511
$> rpm -qpl
/var/lib/mock/fedora-rawhide-x86_64/result/libpng-devel-1.6.2-1.fc20.x86_64.rpm
/usr/bin/libpng-config
/usr/bin/libpng16-config
/usr/include/libpng16
/usr/include/libpng16/png.h
/usr/include/libpng16/pngconf.h
/usr/include/libpng16/pnglibconf.h
/usr/include/png.h
/usr/include/pngconf.h
/usr/include/pnglibconf.h
/usr/lib64/libpng.so
/usr/lib64/libpng16.so
/usr/lib64/pkgconfig/libpng.pc
/usr/lib64/pkgconfig/libpng16.pc
/usr/share/man/man3/libpng.3.gz
/usr/share/man/man3/libpngpf.3.gz
$> rpm -qpl
/var/lib/mock/fedora-rawhide-x86_64/result/libpng-1.6.2-1.fc20.x86_64.rpm
/usr/lib64/libpng16.so.16
/usr/lib64/libpng16.so.16.2.0
/$>
Please rebuild your packages with new libpng library
Here is the list:
$> repoquery --enablerepo fedora-source --alldeps --archlist=src
--whatrequires libpng-devel
0ad-0:0.0.11-3.fc18.src
3Depict-0:0.0.11-1.fc18.src
BlockOutII-0:2.4-3.fc18.src
ClanLib-0:2.3.6-3.fc18.src
ClanLib06-0:0.6.5-24.fc18.src
ClanLib1-0:1.0.0-11.fc18.src
CriticalMass-0:1.5-5.fc18.src
DevIL-0:1.7.8-10.fc18.src
FlightGear-0:2.8.0-1.fc18.src
FlightGear-Atlas-0:0.4.9-0.4.cvs20120911.fc18.src
GREYCstoration-0:2.8-11.fc18.src
GraphicsMagick-0:1.3.17-1.fc18.src
IBSimu-0:1.0.5-4.b.fc18.src
ImageMagick-0:6.7.7.5-3.fc18.src
Io-language-0:20110912-6.fc18.src
LuxRender-0:1.0-2.fc18.src
MagicPoint-0:1.13a-2.fc18.src
OpenImageIO-0:1.0.9-1.fc18.src
OpenSceneGraph-0:3.0.1-13.fc18.src
PerceptualDiff-0:1.1.1-10.fc18.src
Pixie-0:2.2.6-9.fc18.src
R-0:2.15.2-3.fc18.src
SDL_image-0:1.2.12-3.fc18.src
SFML-0:1.6-7.fc18.src
SILLY-0:0.1.0-12.fc18.src
SteGUI-0:0.0.1-21.fc18.src
Thunar-0:1.6.1-1.fc18.src
WindowMaker-0:0.95.3-3.fc18.src
YafaRay-0:0.1.1-6.fc18.src
abiword-1:2.8.6-18.fc18.src
adonthell-0:0.3.5-0.14.fc18.src
aeskulap-0:0.2.2-0.11beta1.fc18.src
alevt-0:1.6.2-20.fc18.src
alienarena-0:7.53-3.fc18.src
allegro-0:4.4.2-4.fc18.src
allegro5-0:5.0.3-5.fc18.src
amanith-0:0.3-22.fc18.src
ambdec-0:0.5.1-3.fc18.src
amoebax-0:0.2.0-10.fc18.src
amsn-0:0.98.9-4.fc18.src
aqsis-0:1.8.2-1.fc18.src
armacycles-ad-0:0.2.8.3.2-3.fc18.src
asc-0:2.4.0.0-8.fc18.src
atari++-0:1.60-4.fc18.src
autotrace-0:0.31.1-31.fc18.src
bandwidthd-0:2.0.1-20.fc18.src
blender-1:2.64a-3.fc18.src
bogl-0:0.1.18-22.fc18.src
bolzplatz2006-0:1.0.3-20.fc18.src
boswars-0:2.6.1-6.fc18.src
bwbar-0:1.2.3-13.fc18.src
cairo-0:1.12.8-2.fc18.src
calibre-0:0.9.8-1.fc18.src
celestia-0:1.6.1-6.fc18.src
cfdg-0:3.0-0.beta2.fc18.2.src
chromium-bsu-0:0.9.15-3.fc18.src
cptutils-0:1.45-2.fc18.src
crossfire-client-0:1.70.0-2.fc18.src
csound-0:5.13.0-9.fc18.src
cups-1:1.5.4-14.fc18.src
cvsgraph-0:1.6.1-11.fc18.src
darktable-0:1.0.5-3.fc18.src
dcmtk-0:3.6.0-12.fc18.src
devilspie-0:0.22-9.fc18.src
dillo-0:3.0.2-3.fc18.src
directfb-0:1.6.2-1.fc18.src
dosbox-0:0.74-7.fc18.src
dvdauthor-0:0.7.1-1.fc18.src
dvdisaster-0:0.72.3-3.fc18.src
ebumeter-0:0.1.0-8.fc18.src
emacs-1:24.2-5.fc18.src
enblend-0:4.0-15.fc18.src
enigma-0:1.01-21.fc18.src
esc-0:1.1.0-18.fc18.src
evas-0:1.2.1-2.fc18.src
extremetuxracer-0:0.4-10.fc18.src
fawkes-0:0.5.0-3.fc18.src
fbdesk-0:1.4.1-12.fc18.src
fbida-0:2.09-2.fc18.src
feh-0:2.3-3.fc18.src
fife-2:0.3.3r3-3.fc18.src
flam3-0:3.0.1-4.fc18.src
fldigi-0:3.21.49-1.fc18.src
fontforge-0:20120731b-2.fc18.src
foobillard-0:3.0a-19.fc18.src
freedroid-0:1.0.2-17.fc18.src
freedroidrpg-0:0.15.1-2.fc18.src
freeimage-0:3.10.0-11.fc18.src
freewrl-0:1.22.13.1-3.fc18.src
fuse-emulator-0:1.0.0.1-5.fc18.src
fvwm-0:2.6.5-3.fc18.src
g2clib-0:1.2.3-5.fc18.src
gambas2-0:2.24.0-3.fc18.src
gambas3-0:3.3.3-1.fc18.src
ganglia-0:3.3.7-5.fc18.src
gavl-0:1.4.0-1.fc18.src
gd-0:2.0.35-18.fc18.src
gdal-0:1.9.1-10.fc18.src
gdk-pixbuf2-0:2.26.5-1.fc18.src
gegl-0:0.2.0-2.fc18.src
gerbv-0:2.6.0-2.fc18.src
ghostscript-0:9.06-3.fc18.src
gif2png-0:2.5.8-1801.fc18.src
gimp-2:2.8.2-6.fc18.src
gipfel-0:0.3.2-15.fc18.src
gl2ps-0:1.3.5-5.fc18.src
glaxium-0:0.5-14.fc18.src
gle-0:4.2.4c-4.fc18.src
glglobe-0:0.2-12.fc18.src
glibc-0:2.16-24.fc18.src
gnash-1:0.8.10-4.fc18.src
gnome-xcf-thumbnailer-0:1.0-9.fc18.src
gnubg-1:0.9.0.1-15.fc18.src
gnuplot-0:4.6.1-1.fc18.src
gnustep-gui-0:0.22.0-2.fc18.src
gource-0:0.38-1.fc18.src
grace-0:5.1.23-1.fc18.src
grads-0:2.0.1-3.fc18.src
graphviz-0:2.28.0-23.fc18.src
grass-0:6.4.2-4.fc18.src
grfcodec-0:6.0.1-1.fc18.src
gstreamer-plugins-good-0:0.10.31-5.fc18.src
gstreamer1-plugins-good-0:1.0.3-1.fc18.src
gtk2-0:2.24.13-1.fc18.src
guile-cairo-0:1.4.0-11.fc18.src
gutenprint-0:5.2.9-2.fc18.src
hatari-0:1.6.2-2.fc18.src
htmldoc-0:1.8.27-20.fc18.src
hugin-0:2012.0.0-1.fc18.src
icc_examin-0:0.51-2.fc18.src
icoutils-0:0.29.1-7.fc18.src
imlib2-0:1.4.5-5.fc18.src
inkscape-0:0.48.4-1.fc18.src
irrlicht-0:1.7.3-4.fc18.src
java-1.7.0-openjdk-1:1.7.0.9-2.3.3.fc18.1.src
jkmeter-0:0.6.1-5.fc18.src
jmeters-0:0.4.1-2.fc18.src
jwm-0:2.1.0-2.fc18.src
kdelibs-6:4.9.4-4.fc18.src
koffice-kivio-3:1.6.3-36.trinity.20100511svn.fc18.src
krusader-0:2.4.0-0.8.beta3.fc18.src
kxstitch-0:0.8.4.1-12.fc18.src
lbrickbuster2-0:2.6.4-2.fc18.src
leptonica-0:1.69-2.fc18.src
libAfterImage-0:1.20-6.fc18.src
libass-0:0.10.1-2.fc18.src
libclaw-0:1.7.0-5.fc17.src
libdmtx-0:0.7.2-8.fc18.src
libgaiagraphics-0:0.4b-2.fc18.src
libgdiplus-0:2.10-6.fc18.src
libglpng-0:1.45-8.fc18.src
libguac-0:0.6.3-2.fc18.src
libharu-0:2.2.1-1.fc18.src
libicns-0:0.8.1-2.fc18.src
libkate-0:0.3.8-6.fc18.src
libmatchbox-0:1.9-10.fc18.src
libpano13-0:2.9.18-4.fc18.src
librasterlite-0:1.1c-2.fc18.src
librsvg2-0:2.36.4-1.fc18.src
libtheora-1:1.1.1-4.fc18.src
libtwin-0:0.0.3-7.fc18.src
libucil-0:0.9.10-6.fc18.src
libwebp-0:0.1.3-2.fc18.src
libwmf-0:0.2.8.4-33.fc18.src
links-1:2.6-2.fc18.src
logstalgia-0:1.0.3-3.fc18.src
luminance-hdr-0:2.3.0-2.fc18.src
m4ri-0:20120415-2.fc18.src
mana-0:0.6.1-5.fc18.src
manaworld-0:0.5.2-9.fc18.src
mapnik-0:2.0.0-7.fc18.src
mapserver-0:6.0.3-6.fc18.src
matchbox-window-manager-0:1.2-10.20070628svn.fc18.src
mathgl-0:1.11.2-7.fc17.src
megaglest-0:3.7.1-1.fc18.src
mhgui-0:0.2-14.fc18.src
minetest-0:0.3.1-11.fc18.src
motif-0:2.3.4-3.fc18.src
mrtg-0:2.17.4-4.fc18.src
mrxvt-0:0.5.3-9.fc18.src
mtpaint-0:3.40-6.fc18.src
naev-0:0.5.3-2.fc18.src
nagios-0:3.4.1-3.fc18.src
nazghul-0:0.7.1-3.20120228gitb0a402a.fc18.src
ncview-0:2.1.1-4.fc18.src
nethack-vultures-0:2.1.2-8.fc18.src
netpbm-0:10.59.02-1.fc18.src
neverball-0:1.5.4-8.fc18.src
ngspice-0:23-3.fc18.src
nitrogen-0:1.5.2-5.fc18.src
nmap-2:6.01-8.fc18.src
nogravity-0:2.00-17.fc18.src
nut-0:2.6.5-6.fc18.src
nx-0:3.5.0-12.fc18.src
ocaml-camlimages-0:4.0.1-6.fc18.src
openalchemist-0:0.4-6.fc18.src
opencv-0:2.4.3-3.fc18.src
openmsx-0:0.9.0-1.fc18.src
openttd-0:1.2.2-1.fc18.src
optipng-0:0.7.4-1.fc18.src
oyranos-0:0.4.0-5.fc18.src
panoglview-0:0.2.2-11.fc18.src
paraview-0:3.14.1-4.fc18.src
pekwm-0:0.1.16-1.fc18.src
perl-Imager-0:0.93-1.fc18.src
perl-SDL-0:2.540-2.fc18.src
perl-Tk-0:804.029-9.fc18.src
petitboot-0:0.2-7.fc17.src
php-0:5.4.9-1.fc18.src
pilot-link-2:0.12.5-13.fc18.src
pinball-0:0.3.1-20.fc18.src
pingus-0:0.7.6-4.fc18.src
plee-the-bear-0:0.6.0-7.fc18.src
plib-0:1.8.5-8.fc18.src
plotutils-0:2.6-5.fc18.src
plymouth-0:0.8.8-5.fc18.src
pngcrush-0:1.7.35-1.fc18.src
pngnq-0:1.1-5.fc18.src
podofo-0:0.9.1-7.fc18.src
polybori-0:0.8.2-3.fc18.src
powermanga-0:0.90-11.fc18.src
pslib-0:0.4.5-3.fc18.src
pstoedit-0:3.61-1.fc18.src
pygame-0:1.9.1-10.fc18.src
pymol-0:1.5.0.2-5.20120218svn3982.fc18.src
python-kaa-imlib2-0:0.2.3-13.fc18.src
python-matplotlib-0:1.2.0-4.fc18.src
qemu-2:1.2.0-23.fc18.src
qrencode-0:3.3.1-4.fc18.src
qt3-0:3.3.8b-43.fc18.src
radius-engine-0:1.1-1.fc18.src
raidem-0:0.3.1-21.fc18.src
rakarrack-0:0.6.1-8.git47245c3.fc18.src
rasterview-0:1.3-5.fc18.src
rawtherapee-0:4.0.9-2.fc18.src
redeclipse-0:1.2-12.fc18.src
rrdtool-0:1.4.7-7.fc18.src
ruby-gnome2-0:0.90.4-1.9.fc18.1.src
scantailor-0:0.9.11.1-1.fc18.src
scribus-0:1.4.1-3.fc18.src
seamonkey-0:2.14-1.fc18.src
sear-0:0.6.4-0.9.g0b70ddb.fc18.src
sim-0:0.9.5-0.28.20091129svn3078rev.fc18.src
skanlite-0:0.8-4.fc18.src
slang-0:2.2.4-5.fc18.src
slashem-0:0.0.8-0.9.E0F1.fc18.src
slim-0:1.3.3-2.fc18.src
sox-0:14.4.0-2.fc18.src
speed-dreams-0:2.1.0-11.trunk_r4810.fc18.src
stage-0:4.1.1-2.fc18.src
stratagus-0:2.2.4-14.fc18.src
synfig-0:0.63.05-2.fc18.src
t4k_common-0:0.1.1-8.fc18.src
tachyon-0:0.99-0.5.b2.fc18.src
teeworlds-0:0.6.1-5.fc18.src
tellico-0:2.3.6-1.fc18.src
texlive-1:2012-8.20121115_r28267.fc18.src
thunar-vfs-0:1.2.0-7.fc18.src
thunderbird-0:17.0-1.fc18.src
thunderbird-enigmail-0:1.4.6-2.fc18.src
thunderbird-lightning-0:1.9-1.fc18.src
tkimg-0:1.4-10.fc18.src
torcs-0:1.3.3-2.fc18.src
tracker-0:0.14.4-1.fc18.src
transfig-1:3.2.5d-8.fc18.src
tucnak2-0:2.31-6.fc18.src
tumbler-0:0.1.26-1.fc18.src
tuxpaint-1:0.9.21-9.fc18.src
tuxpuck-0:0.8.2-14.fc18.src
tvtime-0:1.0.2-22.fc18.src
vavoom-0:1.33-4.fc18.src
vegastrike-0:0.5.1-4.r1.fc18.src
vigra-0:1.8.0-6.fc18.src
vtk-0:5.10.0-3.fc18.src
warmux-0:11.04.1-5.fc18.src
warzone2100-0:3.1-0.10.rc3.fc18.src
webkitgtk3-0:1.10.1-1.fc18.src
wesnoth-0:1.10.5-1.fc18.src
weston-0:1.0.0-1.fc18.src
widelands-0:0-0.33.build17.fc18.src
wine-0:1.5.18-1.fc18.src
wormux-0:0.9.2.1-8.fc18.src
wv-0:1.2.9-5.fc18.src
wxGTK-0:2.8.12-5.fc18.src
xaos-0:3.5-6.fc18.src
xautomation-0:1.07-2.fc18.src
xawtv-0:3.101-4.fc18.src
xcalc-0:1.0.3-8.fc18.src
xcftools-0:1.0.7-6.fc18.src
xemacs-0:21.5.32-1.fc18.src
xfig-0:3.2.5-33.b.fc18.src
xine-ui-0:0.99.7-2.fc18.src
xloadimage-0:4.1-12.fc18.src
xmoto-0:0.5.10-3.fc18.src
xorg-x11-apps-0:7.6-6.fc18.src
xpaint-0:2.9.8.3-4.fc18.src
xsane-0:0.998-12.fc18.src
xteddy-0:2.0.1-9.fc18.src
xtide-0:2.13-2.fc18.src
xu4-0:1.1-0.18.20120106svn2999.fc18.src
xulrunner-0:17.0.1-1.fc18.src
xzgv-0:0.9.1-6.fc18.src
zint-0:2.4.3-4.fc18.src
zita-at1-0:0.2.3-7.fc18.src
zita-rev1-0:0.2.1-6.fc18.src
zvbi-0:0.2.33-14.fc18.src
$>
Thank you in advance
--
Best regards / S pozdravem
Petr Hracek
10 years, 10 months
funny 'systemd-analize time' issue
by Reartes Guillermo
Hi, i just tried to compare my F17 system with F19 pre-release and found
something odd in my F17 system:
# uptime
19:08:26 up 2 days, 10 min, 5 users, load average: 0.18, 0.28, 0.31
# systemd-analyze time
Bootup is not yet finished. Please try again later.
A very funny message. :-)
What does count for systemd/systemd-analize as 'booted''?
Obviously some sort of flag is not being set or something similar,
because the system is fully operational.
# systemd-analyze blame | head -3
5350ms network.service
1054ms udev-settle.service
1022ms fedora-storage-init.service
Nothing strange here, the system "boots" relatively quick.
Thanks in advance.
10 years, 10 months
Software Management call for RFEs
by Jan Zelený
Dear Fedora community,
several months ago, at the Developer conference in Brno, Software Management
team received a whole bunch of proposals for new functionality in RPM and
related software stack.
We acknowledge the need for some changes in Software Management stack in
Fedora but we don't want to make changes just by guessing what our
users want. Therefore I call to you, consumers of our products (dnf, yum and
rpm): what are the changes that you would like to see in the foreseeable
future (say 2-3 years) and why would you like to see them (what would they
help you with)?
There is already a list of some RFEs on rpm.org wiki, you can use it as an
inspiration, to see what RFEs we have already received:
http://rpm.org/wiki/FeaturePlanning
The only limitation for your requests is our manifest which defines the scope
of SW management stack for the future. It is attached to this email (note that
it's quite extensive but the first part should give you a good image of what is
the planned scope of SW management stack).
Please send your requests as replies to this email so they can be properly
discussed.
After your proposals are filed and discussed, all will be evaluated by our
team and a roadmap with priorities will be created with those selected as
doable and meaningful.
Thank you in advance for your participation
Jan
10 years, 10 months
Fedora Hosted Usability and Developer Experience
by Miro Hrončok
Hi all,
few days ago I was explaining to someone*, what the Developer Assistant
[0] is.
When I said something like: "...and you project is exported directly to
GitHub [1] if you want", the person I was talking to interrupted me and
asked an interesting question:
Why our own tools prefer a proprietary service, such as GitHub, over our
own infrastructure (Fedora Hosted.org)?
The answer is very easy: Because developers prefer GitHub over Fedora
Hosted and we want to target on the majority.
That leads us to other question: Why do developers prefer GitHub over
Fedora Hosted?
Of course not each developer uses Fedora etc., but even many of our own
projects are usually hosted on GitHub or Bitbucket - see Developer
Assistant itself or Yumex as an example. Try to search Fedora on GitHub [2].
But other reason is, Fedora Hosted user/developer experience is way
worse than GitHub's. Even for a registration or a small change you need
to create a ticket, there is no interface for pull requests or similar
things (or not that I am aware of). Browsing the projects (user
friendly), whatever.
I would like to change that and make Fedora Hosted infrastructure
something, that can compete GitHub. Or at least provide a service that
developers using Fedora would consider as a choice.
What about running something as GitLab [3] or Gitorious [4] on Fedora
Hosted, add continuous integration for creating repos with nightly RPMs,
integrate it with FAS, brand it with Fedora graphics, add more stuff and
make it cool. Simply provide a truly open alternative for developers
that not only develop free software, but also are interested in freedom
and openness?
Than we can provide our own service, that our tools can integrate with
as default. I don't except developers will leave GitHub and move to
Fedora Hosted, so there is nothing wrong on supporting GitHub in our
tools. But wouldn't it make more sense to promote our own services at
the first place? Why support a company that makes profit and is not
related to Fedora at all?
Of course you can argue that Fedora's main goal is not to provide free
software hosting service, but then why we offer Fedora Hosted in the
first place, right?
[0] http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Features/DevelopersAssistant
[1]
http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Features/DevelopersAssistant#GitHub_Integra...
[2] https://github.com/search?q=fedora
[3] http://gitlab.org/
[4] http://gitorious.org/
* I haven't got time to ask for permission to publicly quote this person
about this on the list, but if you are the person and want the
attribution, feel free to say it :)
--
Miro Hrončok
--
Phone: +420777974800
10 years, 10 months
