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Time to retire GlusterFS in Fedora?
by Kaleb Keithley 09 Jan '25

09 Jan '25

HI, Development has effectively ended. For years Red Hat drove development for its RHGS product, but with the EOL of RHGS at the end of 2024 [1], and the disbanding of RHGS engineering at Red Hat, no development is being done. The last update (11.1) was on 6 Nov., 2023. Little or no, development is taking place in the greater Gluster community (such as it is), and no new updates appear to be forthcoming from any direction. Over in the CentOS world, the CentOS Storage SIG members have decided not to build GlusterFS RPMs for Stream 10. Therefore I intend to retire the GlusterFS package in Fedora 42, unless someone else would like to step in and take over as package owner. [1] https://access.redhat.com/support/policy/updates/rhs/ -- Kaleb

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Enabling RPM based sysuser handling
by Florian Festi 21 Dec '24

21 Dec '24

Hi everyone! RPM 4.19 added automatic sysuser handling [1]. In Fedora 39 this feature was not enabled right away [2] as it requires some care to properly transition to it. Also going back to 4.18 was technically still the fallback option during this change. I just noticed in an issue in the RPM upstream repository [3] that the sysuser feature is still not enabled. May be right now might be a good time to get this going for Fedora 41. I am happy to help with the technical details but would prefer if this effort was driven from within Fedora. Currently users are either done manually by calling useradd in scriptlets or using the macros in systemd-rpm-macros which is a sub package of the systemd package. RPM's mechanism is switched off by rpm-4.18.92-disable-sysusers.patch in the rpm package. This whole thing probably needs to be a Global Change involving a change to the Packaging Guidelines [4] and may be an Mass Package Change (although that might be avoided by changing the macros in systemd-rpm-macros to NOPs). Anyone interested in picking this up? I remember quite a few people being exited about this when it was announced with the rpm-4.19 Change. Florian [1] https://rpm-software-management.github.io/rpm/manual/users_and_groups.html [2] https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Changes/RPM-4.19 [3] https://github.com/rpm-software-management/rpm/issues/3073 [4] https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/packaging-guidelines/UsersAndGroups

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soname bump: live555 2024.03.08 coming to rawhide
by Dominik 'Rathann' Mierzejewski 09 Dec '24

09 Dec '24

Hello! Latest live555-2024.03.08 comes with an SONAME bump from 107 to 112. The only consumer seems to be vlc, which I'll rebuild in a side-tag (f41-build-side-87311) and submit together as an update. This is rawhide only. Regards, Dominik -- Fedora https://fedoraproject.org Deep in the human unconscious is a pervasive need for a logical universe that makes sense. But the real universe is always one step beyond logic. -- from "The Sayings of Muad'Dib" by the Princess Irulan

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Tcl/Tk 9.0.0 rebase
by Jaroslav Škarvada 08 Dec '24

08 Dec '24

Hi, I would like to rebase Tcl/Tk in rawhide (f42) to the latest stable 9.0.0 release. Unfortunately, there are several incompatibilities [1] and several applications will require porting. I will create side-tag and bugs for individual packages. For the preliminary testing there are Tcl/Tk SRPMs available [2]. List of packages that tailed to compile with Tcl/Tk 9.0.0 follows: blt brltty cgnslib classified-ads deal eggdrop emacspeak expect gcl gtkwave hamlib hfsutils hping3 iaxclient ibutils insight irsim itcl itk iwidgets Lmod magic memchan nbdkit netgen-mesher ngspice ocaml-lablgl ocaml-labltk ocaml-ocamlnet ogdi opencascade openmsx owfs pidgin postgresql postgresql16 python* [*1] sqlite sqlite2 svxlink tcl-tclxml uudeview znc thanks & regards Jaroslav [1] https://www.tcl-lang.org/software/tcltk/9.0.html [2] https://jskarvad.fedorapeople.org/tcltk9/ [*1] tried versions 2.7 - 3.13

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Michel's package orphaning thread - part 1: xonsh
by Michel Lind 28 Nov '24

28 Nov '24

Dear all, Between different work and personal commitments, and evolving interest over time, I sometimes find myself overstretched when it comes to maintaining packages, and some of these packages (and needless to say, their users) deserve more TLC. As such, as I announced on Mastodon - https://hachyderm.io/@michelin/113255158877362021 - now that I'm back from a bunch of conference travel and personal time off, I'll start spring cleaning and orphan one package a week. This week, starting with the most hi-pri one - xonsh, a shell written in Python - thanks to Miro for handling the update while I was on PTO so this did not end up getting retired in F41/Rawhide. https://src.fedoraproject.org/rpms/xonsh The Python packagers SIG has commit access to this, but I'm the only individual maintainer, so maybe a Pythonista would want to take this on. I'll reply to this next week with the second package I'm letting go - I'll try to ensure they are in a reasonable condition when they are released, and if I can't I'll make a note to that effect. Best regards, -- _o) Michel Lind _( ) identities: https://keyoxide.org/5dce2e7e9c3b1cffd335c1d78b229d2f7ccc04f2

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Intel's Clear Linux optimizations
by František Zatloukal 21 Nov '24

21 Nov '24

Hi, Phoronix recently release article[1] about Intel's Clear Linux with some cool graphs showing nice performance gain compared to Xubuntu. I didn't have time to dig in and look how it's performing against Fedora, but I'd assume Fedora can be compared to Xubuntu in terms of compiler settings. I think i'll be interesting to look into it and find out if Fedora can't tweak compiler settings (eg use LTO for critical things like Mesa, Kernel, ...). I think it could be interesting fo Fedora users to have this enabled if there are not any disadvantages other than compile time, compile memory usage and so on. What do you think? [1] http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=article&item=intel-clr-opengl&num=1 -- Best regards / S pozdravem, František Zatloukal Project Coordinator Red Hat

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What is "FAILED: ActionNotAllowed: policy violation (tag)"
by Richard W.M. Jones 15 Nov '24

15 Nov '24

We wanted to build pesign so we can automatically trigger RISC-V builds, since for some reason (I guess related to this) it hasn't been built for f42 & f41. But ... https://koji.fedoraproject.org/koji/taskinfo?taskID=124051163 Rich. -- Richard Jones, Virtualization Group, Red Hat http://people.redhat.com/~rjones Read my programming and virtualization blog: http://rwmj.wordpress.com virt-p2v converts physical machines to virtual machines. Boot with a live CD or over the network (PXE) and turn machines into KVM guests. http://libguestfs.org/virt-v2v

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Why is this Koschei notification not working?
by Otto Liljalaakso 13 Nov '24

13 Nov '24

Hi, Since the new Notifications app was launched, I have been trying to enable notifications from Koschei. It is still not working, and I am unable to figure it out. For example, I am co-maintainer of tilix (admin access in dist-git), but I did not receive a notification when Tilix went FTBFS in Koschei for Rawhide and F41 Does somebody know why this rule does not send those notifications? Rule Enabled? Yes Tracking Rule: My Events Destination: * Destinations: otto.liljalaakso(a)iki.fi * Optional Filters: ** Severities: info, warning, error ** Applications: Koschei ** My Actions: no ** Excluded Applications: none ** Fedora Message topic patterns: none Is "My Events" wrong? Its description is "Event referring to me or affecting me". I would say that included everything related to packages that I co-maintain. Should I rather use "Artifacts by user". Its description is "Messages about artifacts (packages, modules, containers) that are owned by specific users". Does co-maintaining count as "owning" here?

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Packaging Guidelines for Applications using Git Submodules
by Gerald B. Cox 12 Nov '24

12 Nov '24

I'm trying to figure out the best way to handle the situation where a project decides to use submodules in Git. The archive generated doesn't incorporate the submodule files. I've done some searching on this, and haven't really come up with much. I've reviewed: Packaging:Github <https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Packaging:SourceURL?rd=Packaging/SourceURL#G…> ; but that really doesn't address the submodule issue. I looked through some packages that are currently in the Fedora repository and found where a few folks have rebuilt the tarball and referenced that version as the Source in the spec file; then they put in a comment stating: The source of this package was pulled from upstreams' vcs. Use the following commands to generate the tarball: ... - git clone ... - git submodule init - git submodule update ... This approach is the best that I've found. Any other suggestions? Thanks much!

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correctly packaging dconf overrides
by Vojtěch Polášek 07 Nov '24

07 Nov '24

Hello, I am working on a Fedora remix for visually impaired. I would like to ship some modifications to Mate desktop environment in form of packages. I would like to customize some keybindings because they are not set from the start. I think the best would be to use dconf overrides. You can see my pakage sources here: https://github.com/vojtapolasek/vojtux/tree/master/rpm/vojtux-settings Do you think this is a correct and valid way how to override dconf settings with a package? Thank you, Vojta

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