Den mån 3 sep. 2018 kl 12:56 skrev Fabio Valentini <decathorpe(a)gmail.com>:
On Mon, Sep 3, 2018, 09:13 Ron Yorston <rmy(a)frippery.org> wrote:
>
> Adam Williamson wrote:
> >On Sun, 2018-09-02 at 08:58 -0700, stan wrote:
> >> On Sun, 2 Sep 2018 09:33:39 +0200
> >> Andreas Tunek <andreas.tunek(a)gmail.com> wrote:
> >>
> >> > There is no root acoount on a default F29 installation. Also, you
> >> > can't see the boot menu and I haven't been able to trigger it.
> >>
> >> Whoa! I'm not sure what that buys, but I'll change that as soon as
> >> possible when I install it. That's crazy! Maybe someone wants to
> >> imitate a Mac or something.
> >
> >It's a Change that was properly announced and extensively discussed on
> >this list.
>
> Since some Fedora users may not read this list, I hope that these
> changes will be prominently mentioned in the release documentation.
>
> Preferably for F30 as well as F29 so that users who only update to every
> other release will also receive notification.
>
> Ron
Well, one might argue that users who really want to run pre-beta releases of fedora are
also expected to follow the discussions and announcements here.
fedora 29 really isn't ready for end users yet (as witnessed by this thread) -
it's not even in beta after all - so if you don't (or can't) keep up with the
news and development discussions, you really shouldn't be running fedora 29 yet IMO.
I know that doesn't help rescue the borked systems, but running alpha-quality code is
bound to lead to problems, and users are expected to be able to deal with them - otherwise
they should stick to stable releases.
Fabio
The thing is, if people do not test releases they will never be
stable. And even if I don't know how to access my F29 installation
from a chroot sometimes my testing is valuable to the project. Also, I
think that my testing has shown that a lack of root account and boot
menu has lead to a much worser user experience in certain cases.
/Andreas
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