On Wed, May 13, 2020, at 5:04 PM, Ty Young wrote:
On 5/13/20 12:04 PM, Robbie Harwood wrote:
> Ty Young <youngty1997(a)gmail.com> writes:
>
>> On 5/12/20 5:55 AM, Felix Schwarz wrote:
>>> Am 12.05.20 um 12:32 schrieb Ty Young:
>>>
>>>> Right, I figured it was some Fedora policy and not up to you. I
>>>> suppose I should have been more clear there. Sorry for any
>>>> confusion, it was aimed at the Fedora project as a whole as this is
>>>> a Fedora issue.
>>> This is not a Fedora issue but a consequence of Fedora's core
>>> values. You not agree with it but "building from source" is so
>>> fundamental that it does not make sense to even start a discussion
>>> about it on fedora-devel.
>>>
>>> I suggest you read up on the rationale behind that policy (which is
>>> why I linked the policy document in the first place).
>>>
>>> I understand that missing components/features due to the source
>>> requirement are annoying but Fedora (and other distros) decided to
>>> take the "high road" here and actually fix stuff instead of
shipping
>>> whatever upstream came up with.
>> As someone who has been burned due to Fedora's goody little two shoes
>> policies, I'd kindly ask that Fedora take a hike and not package the
>> software at all.
> This is not "being excellent to each other". Let's keep in mind that
we
> are all here for the same reason (caring about Fedora), and that this
> makes us colleagues - even when we disagree.
Neither was the threat and intimidation by higher ups at Red Hat or
Fedora, which very few people on this seem to care about despite
constantly bringing up the CoC. Selective enforcement probably isn't
"being excellent to each other" either.
Anyway, I'm just asking that Fedora not repeat what Debian did. While I
find it to be a bit paranoid, I understand the concerns regarding
someone sneaking in malware into pre-build binaries. I'm just asking
Fedora not package the software at all in that case, or any software
that depends on that software if possible. People who want to support
Linux by writing software shouldn't be bothered with bug reports from
issues they never created to begin with.
Is your position that Fedora should not package any software where the Upstream provides
binaries? If so, that would seem to defeat the purpose of a Linux distribution, IMHO.
V/r,
James Cassell