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On Fri, 23 Feb 2007 08:17:36 -0500, Jesse Keating wrote:
On Friday 23 February 2007 07:35, Michael Schwendt wrote:
> * heavy use of Red Hat internal mailing-lists for Fedora related matters,
This is complete BS.
Disagree as much as you like, but please avoid the strong language.
Maybe one or three messages a month pop up on internal
lists, and those are immediately redirected to external lists.
Repeatedly, there have been references to relevant topics on internal
lists, involving Fedora or Core. I've pointed out a few examples long
ago. With regard to the Fedora Merge, most recent is this one:
https://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-devel-list/2007-February/msg00577....
Now, I guess somebody will deny that it's relevant discussion. Still, you
cannot deny that internal lists plus interal IRC plus additional forms of
internal communication don't do a community project any good when public
communication channels are criticised for their poor s/n ratio.
> * more closed circles, in which decisions are made -- including
mysteries
> like brew, koji, and code transfer for the new Updates System,
These decisions were made at the Fedora summit, with the Fedora board and
other community folks, complete with an IRC channel during the live
discussions. Further discussion has happened in Fedora board meetings and
public Fedora lists.
Which lists exactly?
> * unclear role of FESCo, not enough steering -- instead: the
drive
> that "you don't need to be in FESCo to get something done",
I don't even know what you mean by this.
That's sad. But you're not listed as a FESCo member anyway.
Perhaps I should lose my hope that somebody else in FESCo still has
a clue what I refer to.