On 1 April 2017 at 08:19, Michael Schwendt <mschwendt@gmail.com> wrote:
In reality, that's not case always. In order to remove a previously 
introduced Obsoletes tag, you would need to do what exactly?

I've already wrote this straight. Quote:

"So exact paragraph in FPG should be not about using versioned Obsolete rule but should contain straight rule that "resurrecting" package should cause remove Obsolete rule as consequence such decision."

I've as well implemented and posted test case which presents how such cases should be implemented.
In other words: despite natural language explanations (which I've gave probably 3-4 variants) you have "by example" demonstration with which you can play or modify presenting that after modification something is not working ass expected.
Please start playing with those specs files which I've posted.
Do not trust my words and please rely ONLY on what you can execute!!!

I fully understand that it is not easy to understand some new approach if so long so many people been using some other variant which suppose to be correct but is not.

One more time: posted here test case works and does not need versioned Obsoletes rules.
Does it really not lights up some bulb inside your mind? .. maybe at least some small spark?

Reality is that Fedora have been using wrong solution such scenario that now many people mentally have problem with accepting that it is other/better/simler solution. Such communal effect is well known in psychology.

If you want to proof that I'm wrong just please do not continue sending next comments in this thread. It is completely pointless!!
Take test case which I've posted and modify it to the state when it will start producing not expected results or change something in context of the packages in which such short test is executed.
So far no one here even one time posted something which may look like like producing not expected results.

We've come a long way, and returning to day zero and repeating some
mistakes is not a good idea.

Look .. Fedora exist only 14 years.
People been thinking that the Earth is centre of the Universe for thousands years.
If something IS wrong time has no matter.
Time, trust, number of people .. those things should not be brought here as an argument. Because it is not the "nec Hercules contra plures" case.
No .. as I've been able implement and post test case with results I'm longer not a side of this dispute. Do you see this?
At the moment you are trying to convince this ~1KB of tar.xz archive to start producing different results than I've posted.
It takes only few seconds to download attachment and execute what is inside. (Rhetorical question) Did you try do this?
If yes .. did you try after this spend few seconds asking yourself "why this annoying guy implement this exactly that way? Why it works? Can this test work correctly in case all past cases which caused writing some part of FPG? Can it work always?"

To everyone: instead spending time on writing reply please invest exactly the same time to execute and analyse what is inside this tests ..

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