On Wednesday 17 July 2013 03:20:42 Lennart Poettering wrote:

> As mentioned before, if people run programs that require

> /var/log/messages they should simply install rsyslog and be done with

> it.

>

That terribly sounds like "my way or the high way".

Many people have raised concerns not only about having /var/log/messages in the base installation but about needing/wanting *simple text* logs by default as well.

I for one, advocate against having to use a (forced)tool to read log files. Even when you think it's better, many *do not*.

Regards,

Marc Deop