Hi,

Thank you for the update Ian. It was not meant the way every packager is ignoring the opened issues, we appreciate your work on this autoconf-2.71 issue. Sorry for generalizing this.

Glad to hear that it will build OK today.

HEADS-UP:

Starting with merging autoconf-2.71 changes. This week a scratch-build for all dependent packages will be executed. If you want to test your packages by yourself, you can execute your own scratch-build and see if it works properly. I will write here when autoconf-2.71 will be stable.

Thanks for your cooperation and hope to see very few failures this week :)

Regards,
Ondrej

On Fri, Aug 27, 2021 at 2:36 PM Ian Kent <raven@themaw.net> wrote:
On Tue, 2021-08-24 at 10:53 +0200, Ondrej Dubaj wrote:
> Hello,
>
> In the near future, there is a plan to merge autoconf-2.71 to
> rawhide. Due to the size of the change and possible breakage of
> multiple packages going FTBFS. The number of these packages should
> not be many, currently we have ~32 opened FTBFS trackers according to
> autoconf-2.71, where the majority of them are just ignored by
> maintainers [1]. This can also be a possibility to remove unnecessary
> packages from Fedora. After merging the change, there should be a
> mechanism for validating. From my perspective, it is effective to
> rebuild dependent packages (~1700 packages). After the rebuild, there
> should not be many FTBFS packages, but according to the change there
> will be some. There was enough time (~6 months) for the maintainers
> to prepare for this change.

Not everyone is ignoring the bugs I have been working on the am-utils
package for this.

The package is very old and it utilizes autoconf very heavily.
Most of the autoconf noise is use of obsolete macros and I have updated
this were I can but there are some things I simply can't fix and some
things that shouldn't be changed.

I'll keep coming back to it over time since the changes I have made or
(rather will be committing over the weekend) do allow the package to
build and function on F33 and build in the Copr updated autoconf
environment.

I expect it will build ok on Monday.

>
> If there are any concerns or other opinions about the steps after
> merging the change, please share your thoughts and we can discuss
> them here.
>
> Thanks very much!
>
> Regards,
> Ondrej
>
> [1] https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1942967
>
> On Mon, Aug 16, 2021 at 7:52 AM Ondrej Dubaj <odubaj@redhat.com>
> wrote:
> > Hello, according to the size of this change and the possible
> > breakage of multiple packages before f35 mass rebuild, we decided
> > (team working on this change) to postpone this change to early
> > lifecycle of f36, where we will have enough time to resolve any
> > problems until f36 mass rebuild.
> >
> > On Mon, Aug 2, 2021 at 5:18 PM Kevin Fenzi <kevin@scrye.com> wrote:
> > > On Thu, Mar 25, 2021 at 05:28:07PM +0100, Ondrej Dubaj wrote:
> > > > Currently, we are trying to stay away from the compat package
> > > > and
> > > with the
> > > > help of other package maintainers trying to fix the failures.
> > > > We
> > > will give
> > > > time to react accordingly and see other possible steps in a few
> > > weeks time.
> > > >
> > > > Currently multiple FTBFS bugs in bugzilla were created
> > > > according
> > > to
> > > > autoconf-2.71. More information available here:
> > > >
> > > > https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Changes/Autoconf_271
> > >
> > > Whats the current status of this Change?
> > >
> > > It didn't land before mass rebuild. Is it still planned for f35?
> > >
> > > kevin
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