On 06/05/2009 01:23 PM, Bastien Nocera wrote: My experience with scanning in Fedora is so awful that I dropped any expectation: I have an old HP ScanJet 5370C, for which according with sane-project.org the support is "Good" (avision backend). For me the best was around F9, when it worked 50% of the time: a scan operation produced garbage, the next one was usable, the next one garbage and so on. I always had to scan twice to get something acceptable. F8 and earlier it produced garbage most of the time and in F10 the application just got frozen, doing nothing and I had to kill it. Now F11 is a new low: when pressing the scan or preview buttons from either xsane-gimp or gnomescan the result is X crashing and me seeing the GDM screen. -- nicu :: http://nicubunu.ro :: http://nicubunu.blogspot.com/ photography: http://photoblog.nicubunu.ro/ my Fedora stuff: http://fedora.nicubunu.ro/

On 06/05/2009 04:14 PM, Matthias Clasen wrote: I was not sure on which component should it be reported to, X, sane-backends/fronteds, gnomescan, xsane. It crashes every time when I am trying to scan with a GUI, the only way to do somehing without a crash is using scanimage from commandline, which is aborting with "scanimage: received signal 15". -- nicu :: http://nicubunu.ro :: http://nicubunu.blogspot.com/ photography: http://photoblog.nicubunu.ro/ my Fedora stuff: http://fedora.nicubunu.ro/

On 06/05/2009 04:47 PM, Matthew Garrett wrote: So I should fill a but for both Xsane, GnomeScan and X.org? Different hardware, different sane backends. -- nicu :: http://nicubunu.ro :: http://nicubunu.blogspot.com/ photography: http://photoblog.nicubunu.ro/ my Fedora stuff: http://fedora.nicubunu.ro/

On 06/05/2009 05:11 PM, Matthew Garrett wrote: OK I prefixed it with "for me", i know it works for some people. -- nicu :: http://nicubunu.ro :: http://nicubunu.blogspot.com/ photography: http://photoblog.nicubunu.ro/ my Fedora stuff: http://fedora.nicubunu.ro/

On Fri, 2009-06-05 at 09:54 -0500, Michael Cronenworth wrote: There's already a bug about it ;-). I'm working on official 1.0.20 packages, unfortunately there are already too many patches in there which make this not quite straight forward as it sounds. Thankfully, I'll soon be able to devote more time to OS things than in the past. Frontend-wise I'm rather missing tools for sensible batch-processing (we've about 2000 slides that are waiting to be digitized) than something "simple" like gnome-scan, but IMO most real problems are on the backend side anyway. Nils -- Nils Philippsen "Those who would give up Essential Liberty to purchase Red Hat a little Temporary Safety, deserve neither Liberty nils(a)redhat.com nor Safety." -- Benjamin Franklin, 1759 PGP fingerprint: C4A8 9474 5C4C ADE3 2B8F 656D 47D8 9B65 6951 3011

On 06/05/2009 10:05 PM, Louis Lagendijk wrote: As said above: [Desktop]$ scanimage --format=tiff --resolution=300 > scan.tiff scanimage: received signal 15 scanimage: trying to stop scanner scanimage: received signal 15 scanimage: aborting [Desktop]$ scanimage -T scanimage: received signal 15 scanimage: trying to stop scanner scanimage: received signal 15 scanimage: aborting [Desktop]$ scanimage -L device `avision:libusb:003:003' is a Hewlett-Packard ScanJet 5370C flatbed scanner It is somewhat better: at least X is not crashing this way. -- nicu :: http://nicubunu.ro :: http://nicubunu.blogspot.com/ photography: http://photoblog.nicubunu.ro/ my Fedora stuff: http://fedora.nicubunu.ro/

Bastien Nocera wrote: Am Interested Not sure if have the necessary skills yet. If I got some mentoring, would be up for it. Brand X Scanner (PCline?) FRank

On Fri, Jun 05, 2009 at 08:56:47AM -0400, Tom spot Callaway wrote: ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ Same here. Paul

On Friday 05 June 2009 08:56:47 Tom "spot" Callaway wrote: nb: I have two scanners up here as well that can be utilized, they're actually dual firewire/usb scanners that krh got when working on the firewire stack (and I inherited when I was working on it). Of course, last I knew, they both worked just fine using the gimp sane plugin, so they may not be all that interesting. (One is an Epson somethingorother, one is a Microtek, both are reasonably nice scanners) -- Jarod Wilson jarod(a)redhat.com

Jesse Keating pisze: I have an old Plustek OpticPro ST24, which is supposed to be supported by the genesys backend in the future (the progress has been stalled for a few years). Julian

On Fri, Jun 5, 2009 at 6:23 AM, Bastien Nocera<bnocera(a)redhat.com> wrote: I'd be very interested in helping with this, scanning is one of the most abhorrently performing niches in Linux that I've dealt with recently. $dayjob essentially grants me access to a plethora of high-end Fujitsu, Kodak, Bell & Howe, and Xerox scanners.

On Fri, 2009-06-05 at 11:23 +0100, Bastien Nocera wrote: I have a scanner, but it's a rather well-behaved one (an HP ScanJet 2100C). As long as SANE is installed you don't really need to do anything to set it up - you can just run GIMP or xsane directly and get to scanning. Looking at gnome-scan, I see the author is asking for help: http://blogs.gnome.org/gnome-scan/ testing it out, it seems a bit odd - it certainly has a nicer interface than xsane's horribleness, but it seems a bit weird in places. It defaulted to a rather odd scanned image size for me, and the preview tab would only show that area of the page. I then switched to the 'Letter' size on the main tab, previewed again, and the preview seemed to come out right - but I couldn't then click and drag to resize the area to be scanned. I had to go back to the main tab, switch back to 'Manual', then go back to the preview tab before I could click and drag to resize - and if I then tried to refresh the preview, it didn't preview correctly again, it only previewed a tiny corner of the area and I couldn't click and drag the selection to make it any bigger. So I think the gnome-scan interface is nice but if my results are reproduced by others, we can't really replace xsane with it until it's a bit less buggy. It would be nice if any coders with scanning interest could contribute to the code I guess (I'm unfortunately not a coder). On the packaging side of things, I would also be happy to help but it looks like we're not short of volunteers. What would be useful, I guess, is input from anyone who has a scanner that's a pain to set up, explaining what they have to do, so we could look into how we could ease that task. I may do a quick build of gnome-scan 0.7.1 to see if it addresses my problems, though that's an unstable release we may not want to package officially. The thought also occurs that this is an area that would be helped by one of my little hobby horses, the pony that I'd like to have which I call HardwareKit, which is just my name for a little widget/layer/whatever between udev/HAL/DeviceKit and PackageKit: it would allow the system to prompt you to install a given set of packages when it notes a certain piece or type of hardware being plugged in. So, in this case, if HAL/DeviceKit notices a scanner being plugged in, it could call out to PackageKit to install our scanning package group. That's something I've been wishing we had for a while now. -- Adam Williamson Fedora QA Community Monkey IRC: adamw | Fedora Talk: adamwill AT fedoraproject DOT org http://www.happyassassin.net

Matthias Clasen (mclasen(a)redhat.com) said: Not to go all Ubuntu on everyone, but we have a patch command. We should use it. Bill

On Fri, 2009-06-05 at 17:56 +0100, Daniel P. Berrange wrote: Ok, lets try that: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=504344

On Sat, 2009-06-06 at 12:34 +0200, drago01 wrote: I didn't see that, but its initial window size isn't very good for sure. It doesn't feel quite as polished as most GNOME apps. -- Adam Williamson Fedora QA Community Monkey IRC: adamw | Fedora Talk: adamwill AT fedoraproject DOT org http://www.happyassassin.net