Hello Fabio I am not very active, and not a software engineer, but Vala/GTK applications are kind of my hobby, and I had the opportunity to take a look at elementary applications (code wise too). You are maintaining much more packages I can ever pretend to maintain, so this will be a little help. But I am ready to lend a hand, if I can get some guidance, milestones, and if we can work together... ? I am CET time zone based. Do you work from the USA ? My FAS is: avigne. Keep me posted. BR, Alain On Fri, Jan 31, 2020 at 9:30 PM Fabio Valentini <decathorpe(a)gmail.com&gt; wrote: > Hi everybody, > > With more responsibilities (FPC, Stewardship SIG, FESCo) and the > ever-growing number of packages I maintain, I don't have as much time > for the things I originally started my contributions to fedora with - > the Pantheon desktop and the accompanying elementary applications. > > What makes things worse is that I am not particularly proficient with > Vala or C/GObject, other than including upstream patches or doing > simple backports. That means some issues are punted until upstream > projects get around to fixing them (and if these issues are only > affecting "third-party" distros like fedora, that can take a while). > > Also, the fact that GNOME frequently (almost with every new major > stable release, which means with almost every fedora release) breaks > something - either subtly or not - does not help. > gnome-settings-daemon changes its DBus interfaces almost every > release. mutter makes sweeping API changes almost every release. Both > gala and the elementary LightDM greeter can't keep up with upstream > mutter, and are basically still stuck on mutter 3.28 support (which is > why there is a mutter328 compat package) ... > > Overall, this results in the quality of all these packages not being > as high as I would like it to be (though it's still pretty good, all > things considered). In particular, there are some components that are > more "crashy" than the rest, and I don't have the time and skill to > get deep into debugging the issue in most cases: > > - wingpanel (the panel for Pantheon); issues in individual indicators > also crash the whole app because they are just dlopen()ed > - switchboard (the settings application); issues in individual > settings panels also crash the whole app because they are just > dlopen()ed > - gala (the window manager): obviously bad if the WM crashes, though > not as bad because it's still an Xorg session > - plank (the dock); also optionally used on XFCE (I think) > - sequeler (third-party SQL client developed for Pantheon) > > I would greatly appreciate if somebody who knows their GObject-fu > could help me out here. > > The elementaryOS upstream developers are usually helpful and accept > patches - even for things that are not a problem on elementaryOS, so > long as they can be switched on/off with e.g. conditional compilation. > But reported issues - that only affect fedora - without attached > patches / PRs are obviously low priority for them, and often sit > untouched for months or years. > > In general, I manage to keep the packages for Pantheon / elementary > projects up-to-date. Having set up "nightly" builds on COPR a few > years ago really helps to catch potential issues early. > > If anybody is interested, here are some pointers: > > - all packages are tracked in koschei, in the decathorpe/elementary group: > https://koschei.fedoraproject.org/groups/decathorpe/elementary > > - nightly builds are done on COPR: > https://copr.fedorainfracloud.org/coprs/decathorpe/elementary-nightly/ > > Thanks, > Fabio > _______________________________________________ > devel mailing list -- devel(a)lists.fedoraproject.org > To unsubscribe send an email to devel-leave(a)lists.fedoraproject.org > Fedora Code of Conduct: > https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ > List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines > List Archives: > https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/devel@lists.fedoraproject.org > -- Alain V. _______________________________________________ devel mailing list -- devel(a)lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to devel-leave(a)lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/devel@lists.fedoraproject.org