Hello all, I've recently been wondering why we haven't allowed kernel module packages in Fedora since Fedora 8. I've tried searching through our wiki and the mailing list, but I haven't come up with any concrete reasons for why we disallow them. If it is perhaps the issue of keeping things in sync with kernels we provide (that is, maintainers didn't/couldn't keep up with new kernels being pushed during a release cycle), then I think the situation has changed. We have two tools that can help us in this regard: akmod and Koschei, both came after our policy change to disallow kernel modules. akmod is essentially DKMS except that instead of just building the kernel module, it'll build a kernel module package that matches an exact kernel release. Some of the weird problems that happen with DKMS don't seem to happen with akmod because of this. There's an argument for the akmod functionality being part of RPM and perhaps that should be the case. In any case, I don't see any particular reason akmod couldn't be brought into Fedora. On the other end, we have Koschei, which tracks and rebuilds things automatically (but doesn't submit automatically). It should be possible to adapt what Koschei does to be able to automatically generate new kmod packages tied to a particular kernel release and make it easy for a maintainer to turn that into something that can be submitted as part of a kernel update bundle to Bodhi. The biggest blocker I know of with kmods (at least dkms and akmod style ones) is we have a bug where DNF picks the wrong kernel-devel package at depsolve time[0] (this also appears to affect installing kernel-modules-extras too). Aside from the DNF issue, is there anything else I'm missing in relation to kmods in Fedora? Best regards, Neal [0]: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1228897 -- 真実はいつも一つ！/ Always, there's only one truth!