Hi, alsa 1.0.9 is out. Any chance this will make it into FC4? Probably not, but could be one of the earliest updates. alsa 1.0.9rcX has been packaged in such a way that it will be newer than 1.0.9 unless an epoch bump is issued. It has been discussed in the past that rawhide/test release do not give any upgrade path guarantees for various reasons (among other to be able to downgrade a bunch of packages like kde w/o having an epoch inflation). Should alsa be epochized (poor alsa), or the upgrade paths from rawhide FC4tX broken? Personally I think epochs are really evil, and setups with test releases need to be reinstalled anyway. bugzilla is here: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=158859 -- Axel.Thimm at ATrpms.net