Fedora Release Engineering decided to deal with the 250+ backlog of Bodhi update requests by tagging them all into f12-final. Bodhi is now disabled for Fedora 12 updates.
Questions ========= 1) Why tag all Update requests into f12-final?
At this point of the schedule we realized that there were updates sitting in the queue from since October. They were sitting there. Not getting pushed to any repository. Rawhide gives these packages several more weeks of testing exposure. This was decided to be better than a flood of day zero updates that are poorly tested.
2) When will we be able to submit Updates again?
Rel-eng will decide when to begin accepting Updates for Fedora 12 again during Monday's rel-eng meeting. Meanwhile please use the rel-eng ticketing system to request tagging into f12-final.
3) How do I file a tag request to include my package into Fedora 12?
https://fedorahosted.org/rel-eng/ Please file tag request tickets here if you want your package build to be included in Fedora 12. Please include details like: * Full Name-Version-Release of your package(s) * What changed? * How risky is this change? * How important is this change? * How well tested is this package build? * Is this package in the critical-path list?
4) Which packages are critical-path?
https://fedorahosted.org/pipermail/autoqa-results/2009-October/001714.html Unfortunately we do not yet have a permanent URL with the critical-path list. This page contains an auto-generated list of critical-path packages as of today.
If your package is not critical-path and not a risk to others to update, then it is highly likely proper to tag at this point of the schedule.
5) How many untagged packages are there?
koji list-tagged --latest dist-f12-updates-candidate
This command lists all packages that are not tagged for f12-final. In some cases these are false positives because a newer package is instead tagged into f12-final. After you have tested your package and verified it doesn't make things worse, please file rel-eng tickets to have it included.
Please direct questions to fedora-devel-list.
Warren Togami wtogami@redhat.com
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On Wed, 2009-10-21 at 16:18 -0400, Warren Togami wrote:
- How many untagged packages are there?
koji list-tagged --latest dist-f12-updates-candidate
I ran this today (just for kicks). It gives back 323 packages. Even with false positives, it a large amount for zero day updates.
This is just FYI. The original e-mail was about removing a backlog of 250+ packages waiting in Bodhi.
On Wed, Oct 28, 2009 at 5:40 AM, Bojan Smojver bojan@rexursive.com wrote:
On Wed, 2009-10-21 at 16:18 -0400, Warren Togami wrote:
- How many untagged packages are there?
koji list-tagged --latest dist-f12-updates-candidate
I ran this today (just for kicks). It gives back 323 packages. Even with false positives, it a large amount for zero day updates.
This is just FYI. The original e-mail was about removing a backlog of 250+ packages waiting in Bodhi.
I thought dist-f12-updates-candidate were packages that had been build for F-12 but had not yet been tagged. It doesn't necessarily mean they are going to be pushed into F-12.
Peter
On Wed, Oct 28, 2009 at 08:47:33AM +0000, Peter Robinson wrote:
On Wed, Oct 28, 2009 at 5:40 AM, Bojan Smojver bojan@rexursive.com wrote:
On Wed, 2009-10-21 at 16:18 -0400, Warren Togami wrote:
- How many untagged packages are there?
koji list-tagged --latest dist-f12-updates-candidate
I ran this today (just for kicks). It gives back 323 packages. Even with false positives, it a large amount for zero day updates.
This is just FYI. The original e-mail was about removing a backlog of 250+ packages waiting in Bodhi.
I thought dist-f12-updates-candidate were packages that had been build for F-12 but had not yet been tagged. It doesn't necessarily mean they are going to be pushed into F-12.
Correct. It's the default tag for any build done for F12.
josh
Peter Robinson <pbrobinson <at> gmail.com> writes:
I thought dist-f12-updates-candidate were packages that had been build for F-12 but had not yet been tagged. It doesn't necessarily mean they are going to be pushed into F-12.
True, but there is no way to say right now which one would those be. So, if 50% of them are destined for updates (a pretty safe bet, I'd say), it's still a rather large number.
-- Bojan
On Wed, Oct 28, 2009 at 09:06:02PM +0000, Bojan Smojver wrote:
Peter Robinson <pbrobinson <at> gmail.com> writes:
I thought dist-f12-updates-candidate were packages that had been build for F-12 but had not yet been tagged. It doesn't necessarily mean they are going to be pushed into F-12.
True, but there is no way to say right now which one would those be. So, if 50% of them are destined for updates (a pretty safe bet, I'd say), it's still a rather large number.
We had around 400 0-day stable updates for F11 if I'm remembering correctly.
josh
On Wed, Oct 28, 2009 at 10:52:13PM +0000, Bojan Smojver wrote:
Josh Boyer <jwboyer <at> gmail.com> writes:
We had around 400 0-day stable updates for F11 if I'm remembering correctly.
Which makes me think - as many should be part of the release as possible, right?
Yep. Which is why bodhi submission for F12 is currently disabled and we're encouraging people to submit tag requests.
josh
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