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Wiki Migration
by Paulo Santos 04 Dec '06

04 Dec '06

Hi everyone, As you know, after the release of FC6, we had problems with the amount of connections to our servers. This made the wiki unavailable as well as other related problems. With this concern, the Fedora Infrastructure Team, have been working in a way to prevent this from happening again. Our first step, is the wiki migration. We are now ready to test the future wiki platform, and this is why i'm sending this email. URL: http://webtest.fedora.redhat.com/wiki (MoinMoin 1.5.6) Please track all problems under http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Infrastructure/WikiMigration, edit that page as you see fit, so that we can fix any problems that you guys may encounter. Feel free to contact me if necessary. Many thanks, Paulo

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Re: DocBook XML rises from the ashes!
by Dimitrios Typaldos 04 Dec '06

04 Dec '06

I am going to follow the next Saturday's tutorial. Regards Dimitris o-----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------o pub 1024D/6A7B898C 2006-11-16 Key fingerprint = F892 27EB 871A 3C16 B18E 3AD5 3A6A 3F77 6A7B 898C uid Dimitrios Typaldos (Encrypted) sub 2048g/4773BB57 2006-11-16 ____________________________________________________________________________________ Yahoo! Music Unlimited Access over 1 million songs. http://music.yahoo.com/unlimited

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Re: [Ambassadors] Re: Loot and LugRadio
by Gavin Henry 04 Dec '06

04 Dec '06

<quote who="Thomas Chung"> > On 12/4/06, Gavin Henry <ghenry(a)suretecsystems.com> wrote: >> <quote who="Stuart Langridge"> >> > Gavin, >> > >> > What are the chances of the Fedora Ambassadors sending me some free >> > Red Hat/Fedora loot to give out to my LUG at our Christmas party? I >> > spoke to J5 who pointed me in the direction of the Ambassadors for >> > this sort of thing :) >> > >> > Incidentally, I note on your wiki page over there that you have "To >> > look into getting a FDSCo interview on lugradio.org" as a todo item; I >> > might be able to help you with that ;-) >> > >> > sil >> > >> >> Cool! >> >> I'll speak Karsten and the Ambassadors group for you. What's the cut off >> date etc.? >> >> Gavin. >> >> -- >> Kind Regards, >> >> Gavin Henry > > Hi Gavin, > Please have him contact me direct. > I can send him some FC6 DVDs via Fedora Free Media Program. Hi Stuart, See above. Many thanks! Gavin.

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Lest anyone think we're alone...
by Paul W. Frields 04 Dec '06

04 Dec '06

http://desdeamericaconamor.org/blog/3-teams-tasks Found from planet.gnome.org -- so we're not the only ones struggling on the barrier-to-entry problem. -- Paul W. Frields, RHCE http://paul.frields.org/ gpg fingerprint: 3DA6 A0AC 6D58 FEC4 0233 5906 ACDB C937 BD11 3717 Fedora Project Board: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Board Fedora Docs Project: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/DocsProject

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Re: Loot and LugRadio
by Gavin Henry 04 Dec '06

04 Dec '06

<quote who="Stuart Langridge"> > Gavin, > > What are the chances of the Fedora Ambassadors sending me some free > Red Hat/Fedora loot to give out to my LUG at our Christmas party? I > spoke to J5 who pointed me in the direction of the Ambassadors for > this sort of thing :) > > Incidentally, I note on your wiki page over there that you have "To > look into getting a FDSCo interview on lugradio.org" as a todo item; I > might be able to help you with that ;-) > > sil > Cool! I'll speak Karsten and the Ambassadors group for you. What's the cut off date etc.? Gavin. -- Kind Regards, Gavin Henry. Managing Director. T +44 (0) 1224 279484 M +44 (0) 7930 323266 F +44 (0) 1224 824887 E ghenry(a)suretecsystems.com Open Source. Open Solutions(tm). http://www.suretecsystems.com/

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Re: DocBook XML rises from the ashes!
by Dimitrios Typaldos 03 Dec '06

03 Dec '06

Hello, I am on GMT as Thierry and this choice is fine to me as well. I need to ask a question anyway: Is the day choice (Monday) ok for everyone ? Unless people eastern places are available (and happy) at very late hours I cannot see many solutions other than trying in weekend times or split the tutorial in two time-zones (is it possible ?). By my side I am happy as far as GMT <= 2 am Dimitris Typaldos o-----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------o pub 1024D/6A7B898C 2006-11-16 Key fingerprint = F892 27EB 871A 3C16 B18E 3AD5 3A6A 3F77 6A7B 898C uid Dimitrios Typaldos (Encrypted) sub 2048g/4773BB57 2006-11-16 ----- Original Message ---- From: John Babich <jmbabich(a)gmail.com> To: For participants of the Documentation Project <fedora-docs-list(a)redhat.com> Sent: Saturday, December 2, 2006 10:52:25 AM Subject: Re: DocBook XML rises from the ashes! On 12/2/06, Vladimir Kosovac <vnk(a)mkc.co.nz> wrote: > I can't see how Paul's Monday afternoon (US Atlantic coast) can be > Thursday your time. You are just 8 hours ahead of Paul. Besides asking "dumb" questions, I'm also great at "stupid" responses. Paul *is* talking about Monday at 5 PM, which, of course, is my Tuesday at 1 AM. John Babich -- fedora-docs-list mailing list fedora-docs-list(a)redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-docs-list ____________________________________________________________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Everyone is raving about the all-new Yahoo! Mail beta. http://new.mail.yahoo.com

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Re: DocBook XML rises from the ashes!
by Dimitrios Typaldos 02 Dec '06

02 Dec '06

o-----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------o Hello, I am on GMT as Thierry and this choice is fine to me as well. I need to ask a question anyway: Is the day choice (Monday) ok for everyone ? Unless people eastern places are available (and happy) at very late hours I cannot see many solutions other than trying in weekend times or split the tutorial in two time-zones (is it possible ?). By my side I am happy as far as GMT <= 2 am Dimitris Typaldos o-----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------o pub 1024D/6A7B898C 2006-11-16 Key fingerprint = F892 27EB 871A 3C16 B18E 3AD5 3A6A 3F77 6A7B 898C uid Dimitrios Typaldos (Encrypted) sub 2048g/4773BB57 2006-11-16 ----- Original Message ---- From: John Babich <jmbabich(a)gmail.com> To: For participants of the Documentation Project <fedora-docs-list(a)redhat.com> Sent: Saturday, December 2, 2006 10:52:25 AM Subject: Re: DocBook XML rises from the ashes! On 12/2/06, Vladimir Kosovac <vnk(a)mkc.co.nz> wrote: > I can't see how Paul's Monday afternoon (US Atlantic coast) can be > Thursday your time. You are just 8 hours ahead of Paul. Besides asking "dumb" questions, I'm also great at "stupid" responses. Paul *is* talking about Monday at 5 PM, which, of course, is my Tuesday at 1 AM. John Babich -- fedora-docs-list mailing list fedora-docs-list(a)redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-docs-list Check out the all-new Yahoo! Mail beta - Fire up a more powerful email and get things done faster. ____________________________________________________________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Everyone is raving about the all-new Yahoo! Mail beta. http://new.mail.yahoo.com

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Self introduction
by Vladimir Kosovac 02 Dec '06

02 Dec '06

Hi all. I am Vladimir Kosovac and am based in Auckland, New Zealand. I just recently figured that excuses, mostly to self, about not having enough time to put some effort into this beautiful project don't work anymore. So, here I am. I have spent last 6+ years as sysadmin at Computer Power, what used to be one of the largest IT training organisations in this part of the world. Sadly, we are not anymore, since Australian operation wound up at the beginning of this year. You all will be happy to know that our training environment is about 97% Red Hat on the server side and 100% Fedora on the Desktop. Obviously, we have to provide Windows desktops, too but those are VMs, so they don't count :o). We are also Red Hat Academy and I am proud to say that two former colleagues from Melbourne and I were the ones to persuade management structures to work with Red Hat on establishing our organisation's Academy status. My Linux experience dates back to 2000, when I put the hand up for a job at this workplace. That opened my eyes and apart from moving to New Zealand, I consider it the smartest move I made in my whole life. There is nothing better than the opportunity to make a living by doing what one really loves. Hopefully, my future contribution will help in making this possible for someone else, too. I'd be most interested to work on parts of the System Administration Guide but I am also happy to help with whatever is considered priority, provided my knowledge is sufficient for whatever that might be. I am not programmer and don't intend to become one. I do have some experience with editing learning material at my workplace. This was done using common word processing apps though but I am going to get on some learning of DocBook XML, which seems pretty straight-forward to get to the level needed to start helping with "checkout-edit-build-publish" effort that Paul suggested recently on the list. Looking forward to work with all of you. Regards, Vladimir ================================================= pub 1024D/7CDACB15 2006-12-01 Key fingerprint = 81B3 78F4 6DB9 0367 40A8 34F2 683F DC6D 7CDA CB15 uid Vladimir Kosovac (fedora_docs) <vnk(a)mkc.co.nz> sub 1024g/4307A68A 2006-12-01 =================================================

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DocBook XML rises from the ashes!
by Paul W. Frields 02 Dec '06

02 Dec '06

Hi gang, It has become apparent over the last few months that having only a couple of people with DocBook XML and CVS skills is a bit of a hampering factor for the Docs Project. This is completely independent of Wiki use, and whether we have wiki docs or not, we will *always* need some people with these skills, more than we have right now for sure. I raised this issue in Tuesday's meeting and wanted to follow up with a proposal. We need at least four volunteers to step up to learn these technologies, only to the extent needed to accomplish the following goals: 1. Understand how to check out document modules from our source code management (SCM) system -- currently CVS. 2. Build documents that are already written and edited, and report problems fully if unsuccessful. 3. Understand how to make changes as directed and commit them to the SCM. 4. Understand how to publish documents to the web site. (Currently this is fedora.redhat.com/docs, but we will track changes as needed.) We need to agree on a way to train in these technologies. I think IRC meetings would suffice, but we will need to agree on a date and time. We can use other technologies on an "as needed" basis, such as gobby. I can promise people that the training will be virtually painless and will require *NO prior experience* with any markup language, shell scripting or programming language, although if you've ever hit "View Source" in your Firefox browser, that's a plus. (You don't have to understand what you saw, but the fact that you cared shows a lot of promise.) :-) I can also promise you that anyone can learn this stuff, especially anyone who already knows how to install and use Fedora. In fact, I didn't know any of it until I got here in 2003. (And some would probably say that I only know enough to be dangerous now.) Please step up -- we need YOU! -- Paul W. Frields, RHCE http://paul.frields.org/ gpg fingerprint: 3DA6 A0AC 6D58 FEC4 0233 5906 ACDB C937 BD11 3717 Fedora Project Board: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Board Fedora Docs Project: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/DocsProject

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Re: DocBook XML rises from the ashes!
by Dimitrios Typaldos 01 Dec '06

01 Dec '06

Hello, though my knowledge on the list of 'skills' you mentioned is limited on the first and partially second item I think I would be interested in learning something more. Happy to help. Regards Dimitri ----- Original Message ---- From: Paul W. Frields <stickster(a)gmail.com> To: Fedora Documentation Project <fedora-docs-list(a)redhat.com> Sent: Thursday, November 30, 2006 10:40:51 PM Subject: DocBook XML rises from the ashes! Hi gang, It has become apparent over the last few months that having only a couple of people with DocBook XML and CVS skills is a bit of a hampering factor for the Docs Project. This is completely independent of Wiki use, and whether we have wiki docs or not, we will *always* need some people with these skills, more than we have right now for sure. I raised this issue in Tuesday's meeting and wanted to follow up with a proposal. We need at least four volunteers to step up to learn these technologies, only to the extent needed to accomplish the following goals: 1. Understand how to check out document modules from our source code management (SCM) system -- currently CVS. 2. Build documents that are already written and edited, and report problems fully if unsuccessful. 3. Understand how to make changes as directed and commit them to the SCM. 4. Understand how to publish documents to the web site. (Currently this is fedora.redhat.com/docs, but we will track changes as needed.) We need to agree on a way to train in these technologies. I think IRC meetings would suffice, but we will need to agree on a date and time. We can use other technologies on an "as needed" basis, such as gobby. I can promise people that the training will be virtually painless and will require *NO prior experience* with any markup language, shell scripting or programming language, although if you've ever hit "View Source" in your Firefox browser, that's a plus. (You don't have to understand what you saw, but the fact that you cared shows a lot of promise.) :-) I can also promise you that anyone can learn this stuff, especially anyone who already knows how to install and use Fedora. In fact, I didn't know any of it until I got here in 2003. (And some would probably say that I only know enough to be dangerous now.) Please step up -- we need YOU! -- Paul W. Frields, RHCE http://paul.frields.org/ gpg fingerprint: 3DA6 A0AC 6D58 FEC4 0233 5906 ACDB C937 BD11 3717 Fedora Project Board: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Board Fedora Docs Project: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/DocsProject -- fedora-docs-list mailing list fedora-docs-list(a)redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-docs-list ____________________________________________________________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Everyone is raving about the all-new Yahoo! Mail beta. http://new.mail.yahoo.com

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