docs December 2009

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Self-Introduction:
by Joseph Allen 22 Dec '09

22 Dec '09

I will now introduce myself, starting with what I have worked on in the past. A while ago I worked on what I called The Linux Terminal Guide, an online blog with some helpful How-To articles. One day I hoped to compile a bunch of Man pages, but I realized that would not reach out to very many people. I hope to help more people by writing How To articles for Fedora Docs. I do not know what my skills would best be classified as but I do know how to use the command line VERY well, i.e. I never really use the graphical package manager. I guess you could say I know-my-way around Fedora as I have "hacked" it, an example being that I as I write I am using Wmii with Gnome-Panel. I do know how to use Web Servers and Administer web-sites. On the side I like chatting with my friends and helping my mom with her Fedora-enabled computer. So what makes me an excellent match for the project? I feel that Fedora is rather lacking some docs, and I want to help! I have rather good writing skills and I know how to do a fair amount in Fedora. I look forward to working on some Docs! As requested here is the output of gpg --fingerprint <yourKEYIDhere>: [joseph@localhost ~]$ gpg --fingerprint 60A37A5D pub 1024D/60A37A5D 2009-12-19 Key fingerprint = 43EF DBB9 8299 73F6 1689 7206 091A D1B9 60A3 7A5D uid Joseph Allen <bloggersciencewithjoe(a)gmail.com> sub 2048g/4D7523E1 2009-12-19 -- JOSEPH ALLEN, C/A, CAP G.V. 'Sonny' Montgomery Composite Squadron SER-MS-102 Mississippi Wing Civil Air Patrol

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Schedule Review Meeting :: Tuesday 2009-12-22 @ 8 PM EST / (2009-12-23 @ 1:00 UTC)
by John Poelstra 21 Dec '09

21 Dec '09

Thanks for the feedback everyone gave. It appears that next Tuesday @ 20:00 EST will be the best date and time. We will be working in real time using Fedora Talk: Extension 2009 and gobby http://talk.fedoraproject.org/ http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/GobbyHowTo Look forward to talking to everyone then. John

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Schedule Review Meeting :: Tuesday 2009-12-22 @ 8 PM EST / (2009-12-23 @ 1:00 UTC)
by John Poelstra 21 Dec '09

21 Dec '09

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RPM Guide and RPM Max
by John J. McDonough 17 Dec '09

17 Dec '09

At FUDcon, Florian Festi approached me about Docs updating the RPM Guide and the book, Maximum RPM, both of which have gotten a little stale. The RPM Guide was already on our radar, and Ben Cotton has taken point on getting that ready to be worked on. Maximum RPM is currently hosted at rpm.org, and does not appear to have been built with the old doc tools. There seem to be some specific dependencies on Fedora 8, so there will be a little work converting it to something more up to date. The other issue, though, is licensing. This probably won't be difficult to deal with but it is something that needs to be addressed. The current copyright holder is Red Hat. We will probably discuss this at an upcoming Docs Team meeting, but I did want to give everyone a heads-up that this is going on. We may also want to carry on some discussion on an rpm.org mailing list so that community is also aware of the effort. At this point not much has actually happened. Ben has moved the RPM Guide to git, but I don't think anything else has happened there, I have looked at the Maximum RPM sources and verified Florian's assessment that this isn't a straightforward build, and quaid is aware of the licensing issues. The RPM Guide is at: git.fedoraproject.org/rpmguide.git Maximum RPM is at rpm.org/git/max-rpm.git --McD

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Docs Meeting 2009-12-17 Summary
by Eric Christensen 16 Dec '09

16 Dec '09

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Docs Meeting 2009-12-17 IRC log
by Eric Christensen 16 Dec '09

16 Dec '09

-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 23:59:54 <sparks> #startmeeting Docs Project Meeting - Agenda: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Docs_Project_meetings 23:59:54 <zodbot> Meeting started Wed Dec 16 23:59:54 2009 UTC. The chair is sparks. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. 23:59:54 <zodbot> Useful Commands: #action #agreed #halp #info #idea #link #topic. 00:00:00 <sparks> #chair jjmcd 00:00:00 <zodbot> Current chairs: jjmcd sparks 00:00:10 <sparks> #topic Roll Call 00:00:11 * sparks 00:00:15 * ianweller 00:01:33 * bcotton is here 00:01:46 * rudi is here 00:01:56 * jjmcd . 00:03:12 * sparks gives everyone a few more minutes to trickle in 00:03:30 * Tsagadai is here 00:06:02 <sparks> Okay, let's get started 00:06:08 <sparks> #topic Action items from last week's meeting 00:06:19 <sparks> Sparks to send a message to L10N and Logistics about a docs planning meeting for early next week 00:06:31 <sparks> Yeah, that didn't happen. Still working on it, though. 00:07:10 <sparks> #action sparks to coordinate a meeting between docs, L10N, and others on translation questions and F13 schedule. 00:07:19 <sparks> jjmcd to review poelcat's schedule and come up with a recommendation before the meeting 00:07:36 <jjmcd> done - link in agenda 00:07:36 <sparks> jjmcd: Is your action items waiting on my action item? 00:07:42 <sparks> Oh! 00:07:42 <jjmcd> No 00:07:55 <sparks> #link http://jjmcd.fedorapeople.org/F13-RelNotes-MajorTasks.html 00:07:56 <jjmcd> Mostly I want to focus on getting the core deliverables right 00:08:01 <sparks> Excellent 00:08:17 <sparks> Okay, moving on... 00:08:23 <sparks> #topic Release Notes 00:08:27 <jjmcd> For F12 all the clutter caused us to miss an important detail - the schedule had us building the rpm two weeks after jesse needed it 00:08:39 <sparks> There is a question... Should L10n merge POs? 00:08:59 <sparks> Yes, the F12 schedule wasn't ideal... 00:09:08 <jjmcd> I am feeling like they ought to be paying the price of not getting the new tfx up 00:09:30 <jjmcd> As long as we are a crutch for them, they really have no reason to get off dead center 00:10:15 <sparks> I'm okay with doing things like RH does them... let the translators do everything 00:10:33 <jjmcd> Now, logistically, this might not be realistic, but I think we should at least make the threat 00:10:48 <rudi> I think it's the right direction to be heading 00:11:25 <sparks> I'm not sure that logistically it's not realistic. It certainly is possible. A lot of our business practices would have to change. 00:11:35 <rudi> +1 sparks 00:12:01 <sparks> BUT you wouldn't have things like the French pulling their translations. If they weren't ready then they wouldn't publish them 00:12:14 <rudi> I don't know whether shifting all the burden for producing and publishing the translated docs can go from Docs -> L10N in the space of one release 00:12:15 <jjmcd> yeah, I mean in principle it seems to make sense, but I got the impression that a lot of their translators had very limited technical capability so it might all fall on glezos 00:12:22 <sparks> rudi: Hell, I've shaken everything else up around here... 00:12:28 <rudi> lolz 00:12:30 <jjmcd> hehe 00:12:57 <rudi> jjmcd -- I think there would be a *lot* of hand-holding to begin with 00:12:58 <sparks> Well... if we are going to rotate our practice around the tool, then the tool better be easy to use. 00:13:11 <sparks> Luckily Publican 1.x isn't difficult 00:13:26 <jjmcd> yeah -- but I think many, maybe even most, actually do the translation in aarghh windows 00:13:30 <sparks> rudi: We could push information into the translators guide 00:13:34 <sparks> which we should do anyway 00:13:43 <rudi> jjmcd -- fortauntely, Publican 1 runs fine on Windows :) 00:13:52 <jjmcd> Oh, is that right!!! 00:13:54 * sparks wouldn't know about that 00:13:55 <jjmcd> holy smokes 00:14:04 <rudi> Mac is coming RSN :) 00:14:45 <jjmcd> that could be a big win then 00:14:49 <rudi> sparks -- yeah; I plan to update parts of the TQSG shortly to cover Publican 1 usage 00:14:58 <jjmcd> If the translators could immediately see their product 00:15:01 <sparks> rudi: +1 00:15:19 <rudi> The problem is still the interoperabilty of Publican and Transifex though 00:15:40 <sparks> well... they should know how to build their documents even if the "owner" is still going to handle the publishing. 00:15:44 <jjmcd> Oh, yeah, so they might have Publican on win, but not msgmerge 00:16:04 <sparks> Well... Transifex needs to be updated... period 00:16:05 <rudi> Actually, the gettext tools are packaged for Windows too 00:16:21 <rudi> And are included in the Publican installer .exe too :) 00:16:34 <jjmcd> Ahhh, now that's a plan 00:16:37 <rudi> But yeah; the Transifex problem is real and growing 00:16:44 <jjmcd> growing? 00:17:15 <rudi> Translators have had multiple issues over the last few weeks with accessing and uploading files 00:17:37 <jjmcd> what has changed? 00:18:08 <rudi> Which has exposed the bigger problem in that the current version is an unmaintained one, and that the Transifex guys don't really have the time to maintain Fedora's instance 00:18:43 <rudi> I think in this case, it was specifically a bug in infra; but it took an enormous amount of time to track down; which caused a lot of grief for L10N 00:19:57 <sparks> Well, the plan to migrate to 0.7 is there 00:20:19 <sparks> Okay, anything else on this topic? 00:20:50 <sparks> #topic Status on CMS (Zikula) 00:21:00 <sparks> #link https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Zikula#Module_status 00:21:12 <sparks> I wish David was here tonight... 00:21:19 <sparks> mchua_afk: You around? 00:21:36 <sparks> So there are still modules that need to be packaged... 00:21:52 <sparks> and apparently the new version of Zikula has a library that needs to be yanked out and packaged. 00:22:08 <sparks> David is working that part but he needs some help. 00:22:49 <sparks> Anyone want to volunteer to help David with Zikula? 00:23:52 <sparks> I'm also going to need help with Limesurvey. 00:24:19 <sparks> It has several libs in it that I have to pull out. I've never had to deal with that kind of thing so I'm not sure how to go about doing that. 00:24:44 <sparks> #topic Does yum langpack support help us? 00:24:51 <sparks> #link https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Features/YumLangpackPlugin 00:25:17 <sparks> jjmcd: Did you add this? 00:25:47 <jjmcd> Sounds like if we package a guide and individual langpack, people can install, say, user-guide and auto get their local lang 00:25:54 <sparks> juhp: You around? 00:25:56 <jjmcd> and they don't need to get them all 00:26:12 <sparks> Sounds cool. 00:26:28 <jjmcd> Doesn't seem to help RN but it does guides 00:26:28 * sparks was hoping Jens was monitoring IRC to talk about this. 00:26:32 <jjmcd> *HOWEVER* 00:26:55 <jjmcd> It looks to me that making the langpack is going to take a bit of head scratching 00:27:07 <jjmcd> At least for html, not so much for yelp 00:27:31 <sparks> rudi: Is Jens in throwing distance? 00:28:22 <sparks> jjmcd: So it would be difficult to get it to work with html but would work with yelp? 00:28:24 <rudi> sparks -- down the hall 00:28:33 <rudi> hang on :) 00:28:35 <sparks> rudi: Didn't know if you could throw something at him. 00:28:35 <jjmcd> Well, that's my read 00:28:49 <jjmcd> Not impossible, but it would take some creativity 00:29:08 <rudi> ping juhp 00:30:19 <sparks> rudi: Oh well... 00:30:29 <jjmcd> I think I could do it but I would hit it with a hell of a big club. stickster might be a little more elegant about it 00:30:35 <sparks> jjmcd: Well, I'd definitely be interested in how it would all work. 00:30:36 <rudi> Hang on -- I'll try in person :) 00:31:38 <rudi> Sorry -- not at desk 00:31:52 <jjmcd> In yelp 2 you just add the omf, in 3, put the new language in the right place and it all works 00:31:55 <sparks> rudi: That's okay 00:32:12 <jjmcd> In html it would take some editing during install. 00:32:20 <sparks> And 3 is coming out in Sep? 00:33:22 <sparks> shaunm: When is Yelp 3 coming out? 00:33:23 <jjmcd> Well, the Q isn't when it is coming out, it is when will it be packaged 00:33:44 <sparks> jjmcd: Yeah, but as soon as it hits the streets we can start playing 00:33:44 <jjmcd> But it is such a minor diff, the OMF ain't rocket science 00:34:57 <sparks> Okay... 00:35:07 <sparks> Well, this is all very interesting news. 00:35:37 <sparks> Anything else on this topic? 00:35:38 <jjmcd> I think doc langpacks are prolly F14 anyway. Too risky to try to use them for 13 00:35:58 <sparks> Can Publican make langpacks? 00:36:10 <sparks> or is it just the way they are "titled"? 00:37:23 <jjmcd> Publican can't package except in the trivial case 00:38:52 <jjmcd> but if we have langpack and if they are similar to RHEL maybe we can talk them into it 00:38:54 <sparks> Okay, maybe we can get more details on this later. 00:39:03 <sparks> ya 00:39:17 <sparks> Okay... moving on 00:39:26 <sparks> #topic Guide Status 00:39:38 <sparks> Anyone want to talk about their Guides? 00:40:16 <Tsagadai> I'm making progress 00:40:18 <Tsagadai> :) 00:40:39 <rudi> Tsagadai -- did you see that bug about screenshots? :P 00:40:51 <Tsagadai> I go on leave soon so there won't be any significant progress on that until january 00:41:00 <Tsagadai> but it is planned 00:42:07 <sparks> Anyone else? 00:43:06 * bcotton promises to have some kind of progress to report in the first 2010 meeting 00:43:23 * sparks marks down bcotton's promise 00:43:34 <sparks> #topic New Guides 00:43:39 <sparks> Any new guides coming out? 00:44:45 <sparks> #topic Outstanding BZ Tickets 00:44:55 <sparks> #link https://bugzilla.redhat.com/buglist.cgi?query_format=advanced&classificatio… 00:44:56 <rudi> anross -- did you want to say something about QE and bugzilla? 00:45:05 <sparks> We quite a few open tickets. 00:45:25 <anross> rudi: didn't have a speech planned ;) 00:45:33 <sparks> If you have tickets assigned to your project please grab them, mark them assigned, and try to work them. 00:45:50 <sparks> At least make sure the person who filed it knows the ticket is being worked. 00:45:52 <anross> but... in general... how do people feel about having someone progress bugs from modified to closed 00:46:09 <anross> 2nd set of eyes 00:46:46 <jjmcd> Well, a number of them are waiting for a push of F11 RN's. The source has been updated, I don't know the translation status, but mostly waiting for an rpm 00:47:48 <rudi> jjmcd -- and I think one of the blockers for that is working out what to do with the PackageKit warning... 00:47:55 <jjmcd> That's F12 00:48:14 <jjmcd> And actually, I don't think thats a biggie 00:48:30 <jjmcd> more challenging is the CPU one, and I don't want to do the two separately 00:49:06 <jjmcd> THe prob with the CPU one is that I can't figure out how to find an authoratative answer. We've had several "authorities" with different opinions 00:49:32 <rudi> True 00:49:44 <shaunm> sparks: september, with gnome 3 00:50:01 <jjmcd> I haven't got much evidence to prefer one opinion over another 00:50:24 <shaunm> there will be development releases before then, of course. but you won't want to target it until you're targetting gnome 3 00:51:00 <sparks> shaunm: cool 00:51:31 <sparks> jjmcd: Maybe just put in the higher of the two CPUs and when the lesser one works then they are still happy 00:51:55 <jjmcd> I may just ask stickster_afk who to ask 00:52:07 <sparks> +1 00:52:23 <jjmcd> If I can catch him on one of those two minute intervals in the AM when he's not _afk 00:52:33 <sparks> jjmcd: There are a lot of RN tickets out there that are still flagged as NEW. 00:52:41 <sparks> good luck 00:52:45 <juhp> sparks: hi 00:52:46 <jjmcd> Oh, I'll look at them 00:53:02 <jjmcd> I thought I had most of the new ones 00:53:02 <sparks> Okay, anything else on the bugs? 00:53:18 <juhp> (ah langpacks) 00:53:27 <jjmcd> Hi Jens 00:53:32 <sparks> juhp: Hi! We want to know more about the langpack feature you are working on. Can you wait a sec? 00:54:22 <juhp> yup np 00:54:26 <sparks> Okay... moving on... 00:54:43 <sparks> #topic Langpack (again) 00:55:02 <sparks> juhp: So can you give us a brief overview of your langpack feature? 00:55:16 <juhp> :) sorry was in a phone meeting 00:55:45 <juhp> bug 536737 00:55:46 <buggbot> Bug https://bugzilla.redhat.com/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=536737 medium, medium, ---, panemade, ASSIGNED, Review Request: yum-langpacks - langpacks plugin for yum 00:56:01 <juhp> yeah basically the package is ready to do into f13 00:56:50 <sparks> And what would it do for us? 00:56:51 <juhp> it is a pretty simple yum plugin that allows langpacks for a user's locale etc to be autoinstalled when they install or update a package 00:57:48 <juhp> so i didn't read all the context above but if you have a master package and then translations were "langpacks" they could probably be installed for the user 00:58:11 <jjmcd> OK, dumb question, what makes a langpack? 00:58:14 <sparks> Could this be done in anaconda, too? 00:58:21 <sparks> yeah, and what jjmcd said. 00:58:31 <juhp> yup 00:58:36 <juhp> <jjmcd> Sounds like if we package a guide and individual langpack, people can install, say, user-guide and auto get their local lang 00:58:45 <juhp> sorry yup to ^ 00:58:49 <rudi> juhp -- so, for example, if the masterpackage was fedora-release-notes-en-US -- then users could automatically pull in fedora-release-notes-de-DE ? 00:59:04 <juhp> for anaconda - currently it would probably have to go to language support groups 00:59:15 <juhp> I haven't tested anaconda yet but it might work 00:59:47 <jjmcd> presumably, a langpack would have to have some install script to merge it with the installed content 00:59:49 <juhp> rudi: I would prefer fedora-release-notes to fedora-release-notes-en-US 01:00:07 <juhp> jjmcd: merge? 01:00:07 <rudi> OK -- but that's the mechanism :) 01:00:15 <juhp> rudi: yep 01:00:44 <jjmcd> Well, we are talking docs, so we don't have message files laying around, we're not going to translate at run time 01:00:45 <rudi> juhp -- and what specifies something as a master package or a "translation package"? Something in the .spec? 01:00:51 <juhp> rudi: I think fedora-release-notes-en-US would work too so forget my comment above for this discussion anyway :) 01:01:13 <juhp> rudi: currently it is hardcoded in the plugin ;) 01:01:22 <rudi> Awesome :) 01:01:34 <juhp> I am planning to have metadata you can provide later 01:01:42 <juhp> s/have/support/ 01:02:33 <juhp> rudi: do yeah for now you could just file a bug and I can add base/langpacks pairs to the list 01:02:39 <juhp> s/do/so 01:02:46 <rudi> Wow! 01:02:57 <rudi> That's a very cool solution :() 01:02:58 <juhp> is it good? :) 01:03:00 <rudi> :) even 01:03:05 <juhp> ok :) 01:03:07 <juhp> thanks 01:03:44 <rudi> We had been idly wishing last week that PackageKit could do something like this :) 01:03:49 <juhp> rudi: you may still need to add them in comps too though for <language>-support groups 01:03:51 <rudi> And Jens makes it happen :) 01:04:02 <sparks> juhp: Can you come back next week and talk more about this? 01:04:08 <juhp> yeah it would have been in f12 if I had been a bit faster... 01:04:13 <juhp> sure 01:04:19 <sparks> cool 01:04:28 <juhp> but next week it should be in rawhide too... 01:04:30 <juhp> by 01:04:52 <juhp> the package is approved but I didn't have time to import it yet :) 01:05:08 <juhp> glad you guys want to use it :) 01:05:29 <sparks> cool! 01:05:43 <juhp> thanks for asking :) 01:06:00 <sparks> Okay, any other questions for Jens while we have him on RH's dime? 01:06:34 <sparks> juhp: Thanks for coming by to chat. 01:06:41 <juhp> pleasure 01:06:45 <sparks> #topic Anything else? 01:06:54 <sparks> Okay, is there anything else anyone wants to talk about? 01:07:41 <jjmcd> Did you see S1775 passed unanimously 01:07:55 <sparks> yes! :) 01:08:00 <jjmcd> (OT but "anything else ;-)) 01:08:27 * sparks already sent it to the packet network 01:08:45 <jjmcd> hehe - I have a cron job does that 01:09:03 <sparks> Okay... anyone? anything? 01:09:31 <sparks> Well.... 01:09:41 <sparks> Thanks everyone for coming out! 01:09:46 <sparks> #endmeeting -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.10 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Fedora - http://enigmail.mozdev.org/ iQIcBAEBAgAGBQJLKbn4AAoJEDbiLlqcYamxSeUQALf/gBKweE03i0e8w3nhNTt2 5pqThkuw+ZRjp2bHZLE4yZfzv1Ax4xK/9u7bqnQVU+brk7XIqh8uDEUkLJfr+zOH NUxESGpVJq3OsAyggGAFUSUk1iE9s9EYHhN8aUgMIBE7hhvtoGQd8O39DokYeMPA nUzoGDjBs8n/ndGGBVVjdDAz54BGRsxzE2X8NLuGHu0LgsPdPvttCquXa/UfHsHM E/25HezSjhV56omVOZVBtAlj4xtVBeloBpl3wT3JiC6xuz2jXq1LF1Deodqt3qeN F1Yj1o4YEQIWYdD8DKv68Z5tDyjXvnU+f0+0qix6oQDGswWMkJ5D6DK/JYAAgJur GU7jDUCSd6jORzPHxQijS7vEGYRMXGwP9ftwiIMEMesd8W9go6Tp/2ppGZpuM0YY URtHGTrMNRZ5tWt2ZOvxZs+F/QaQP4EYCGPCzmDNDtYSkcrWL40BQB1oFDpzRVKQ 1lTv7mG9J/dnxAnm0tLu9oxYtWz0JTk7S/Yd2nB7xXamaYBvWIjh0/OlL7qYods9 chykQi1ZqAJ3+Qj3Gi5qGxhAf9H+LyTp3QcqTezlWjHVQtz2lo27R5dkpq+qlYF9 F/uIXVOtJBQbTyll2orYp8wf6+nSEsMvvnuZRLXSOO2QWmw/CFjdgQJscAHQZ926 fEpbsM8Ofucaz4tVUwcq =Fk/8 -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----

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Zikula Weekly Meeting
by Eric Christensen 16 Dec '09

16 Dec '09

-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 We used to have a weekly Zikula meeting before the licensing issues brought us to a screeching halt. We are mostly beyond that, now. To meet the Insight time-line Zikula needs to be up and running in 2.5 months (at Alpha). That would also work for Docs as well. The following people need to be at the meeting: David (ke4qqq) Eric (Sparks) Mel (mchua) Simon (itbegins) Anyone else? If those NEED people could send me their available times I'll put together a time to meet. Also, we could use some additional packagers. If you would like to help us out, please let me know that as well and I'll include your schedule in my consideration. Thanks, Eric -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.10 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Fedora - http://enigmail.mozdev.org/ iQIcBAEBAgAGBQJLKGL6AAoJEDbiLlqcYamxrm0P/ifOYI5zEzMtC9EHcyINg+rJ Iv3ACzeCi8ghjVAlO9xlHeXXzVDOIYcoSD9UZUcIc7hJw7pJHtUINKZjsvQ5Erjj W10Ji2UXamXKsm36miykaEhv6an5DX6RSCrAS7MYCHXTLGVwpyha0RhoDrrOJjOP YsmKYDy/pN46BLi2csjBKamB5zv+FZrEXkHNaMOgJvrW1J+5GuULW+4eInECQMPu cxUQ62x4gvukenUX7sJ/9cAjRfiS7jzRT4xE1yubOPOnTlwEWZ0K/rUBJaDqZ4pk mjIzWyu7zR7Z/V8blKxpsz+hVtLQy47eo2e2sfPDVGoI1xNzWGJOaovps/CsHZE3 XFsLRvPmx04IpwEjH4DNrFWQZ+WDUAo7r/KBIGfR8NkPnchJCCSC8bwwz/wfpD9u M0Hq/AlN5JWhoS5CU3agIZfSu0FmR8RxAg5gkBDczILVsCxLk+6ht5o2T7zC0uDS FTJUif446vAmgnBgVtkg9fPEuG2gBD3+b8n6Ck28aBUq8RmqY1OvhAvF2q5m6WbQ IEuRhCKKVwP1UYOYzBzvdawk8Y2Swf8oShLg9ev3UWrP5wzeRLwWQ1paiIyT6JIK TvD9tPzYt1JSal0A2Dq7k/3QzFgvgC6fjU9m3Ewennji8c47+ulFFOC9X0X+pQsX V78sXVNKmUemtbfOvRyc =RNdx -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----

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[Bug 505938] New: Need to package MediaAttach.
by Red Hat Bugzilla 16 Dec '09

16 Dec '09

Please do not reply directly to this email. All additional comments should be made in the comments box of this bug. Summary: Need to package MediaAttach. https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=505938 Summary: Need to package MediaAttach. Product: Fedora Documentation Version: devel Platform: All OS/Version: Linux Status: NEW Severity: medium Priority: low Component: docs-requests AssignedTo: eric(a)christensenplace.us ReportedBy: eric(a)christensenplace.us QAContact: fedora-docs-list(a)redhat.com CC: stickster(a)gmail.com Blocks: 504066 Classification: Fedora Description of problem: Need to package MediaAttach. SVN Head: http://code.zikula.org/mediaattach/browser/trunk/MediaAttach -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are the QA contact for the bug.

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Fedora Docs Meeting Reminder
by Eric Christensen 16 Dec '09

16 Dec '09

-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 REMINDER: There will be a Fedora Docs Meeting today at 0001 UTC. The agenda can be found at: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Docs_Project_meetings#Agenda_for_Next_Meeting - -- - --Eric -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.10 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Fedora - http://enigmail.mozdev.org/ iQIcBAEBAgAGBQJLKOI3AAoJEDbiLlqcYamxMV8P/ROx7ihJymHxg7wa9VSgkDRY B3m1IQpN3/edwEDdD1t5wYZDuwuOtqBOPb+EiYpBOQLwoA9TuRyoDV4UIo6any5Q C/Ma0BzFFCy+SrycB6xh+vwUkmFrxWcDMdZufoPuerHKNKeN3VOTgDDaLFmWyoYP +ohg2n718e/gtg55Unwb+oi7Bf46sZx3bEZapmaDzd7h9EHbHPU+CqdNNEJrCitk KCc5k12oxteG3lPAics6mv413YNGmy9z8OI5B4PAqDU1dIYJAUsIt73+KmMWdvmH eTHYodQcaveA8geLh+ZHUZ3v0YAOkCZVANO/BQzvd5/580Hoe/UXZb1BKQ/vQ9DJ YyDM22GFQn/c8uXgbZly+7bykVZ5i9QuQLPr3N6S2AsdMEU5aNijY0PIa0TYTD0i ZvrVyOKiiDMfUWwaEIHNXJXCqM5s1zNCSqwMBGlCFqBgFkyGAcsg+yu2Mvp0Xsz0 IoVI88pAJYLwHlEe1QAXFT/AxYX3TDERkNOT1SWad82Jz8Pn0fRVnGuNfOVe/7ks F7ELoYu2IK/b72vyv7EzH2XnvAcrQAtU8zLOjXD58YQrX8ED8Ixkd5KJ6dG7OD3w 7RntA5d/QI2rl3WwqC4lWkQvJyjX+0JdSFcQjVb/r3/C89eY0Rl18su8uDrNgjuo Xz0zIvbKV+l3k5LMh6uC =rFbP -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----

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Schedule Review Time
by John Poelstra 15 Dec '09

15 Dec '09

Everyone who would like to (or should) participate in the schedule review... PLEASE indicate your availability ASAP. http://whenisgood.net/rkmr2e Thanks, John

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