Meeting Minutes 2011-08-29
by Zach Oglesby
Meeting summary
---------------
* roll call (zoglesby, 13:21:04)
* Follow up on last week's action items (zoglesby, 13:21:44)
* ACTION: zoglesby email rudi to find out status of FOP (zoglesby,
13:22:29)
* ACTION: zoglesby email docs-list to have guide owners verify they
are still working there guides (zoglesby, 13:22:50)
* LINK:
https://www.redhat.com/archives/publican-list/2011-August/msg00022.html
(zoglesby, 13:26:32)
* ACTION: zoglesby and jjcmd to work on guide owners manual on wiki
(zoglesby, 13:27:18)
* F16 Schedule (zoglesby, 13:30:08)
* LINK:
http://rbergero.fedorapeople.org/schedules/f-16/f-16-docs-tree-tasks.html
(zoglesby, 13:30:40)
* LINK: http://jjmcd.fedorapeople.org/Download/F16_Technical_Notes/
(jjmcd, 13:35:56)
* FAD @ OLF (zoglesby, 13:39:56)
* FUDCon (x2) (zoglesby, 13:46:06)
* Guide Status (zoglesby, 13:47:31)
* Open floor discussion (zoglesby, 13:50:53)
Meeting ended at 14:03:56 UTC.
Action Items
------------
* zoglesby email rudi to find out status of FOP
* zoglesby email docs-list to have guide owners verify they are still
working there guides
* zoglesby and jjcmd to work on guide owners manual on wiki
Minutes: http://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-meeting/2011-08-29/fedora-meeting...
Minutes (text):
http://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-meeting/2011-08-29/fedora-meeting...
Log: http://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-meeting/2011-08-29/fedora-meeting...
12 years, 7 months
Tx duplicate teams removal
by Misha Shnurapet
Hi!
The docs translation period starts in two months, it would be nice for the l10n teams with duplicate language resources on Transifex to have their resources justified.
>From what requires action, the duplicate resources named as regional codes (like ru_RU or es_ES) hold our previous work. While the resources named as language identifiers (like ru or es) are out of sync or contain empty translations. It means that the project translators would lose progress if the project maintainers kill the duplicates now. The progressed modules need to be merged in the right place, where these would be available to the teams members afterwards. This is to be done by the l10n coordinators.
There's also a deadline to be set so we don't make the cleanup an endless process. August 15th, 2011, seems to be enough, in case someone's on vacation. That's 2 weeks before the docs translation period starts and about 1.5 month from now. Then we may ask the project maintainers to run a script to remove all those language resources.
If the Transifex stats [2] don't lie, the following teams are to be REMOVED:
as_IN
bg_BG
bn_IN
bs_BA
ca_ES
cz_CZ
da_DK
de_DE
el_GR
fa_IR
fi_FI
fr_FR
gu_IN
he_IL
hi_IN
hr_HR
hu_HU
id_ID
is_IS
it_IT
jp_JP
kn_IN
ko_KR
lt_LT
lv_LV
ml_IN
ms_MY
nb_NO
nl_NL
or_IN
pa_IN
pl_PL
ru_RU
sr_RS
sr_RS@latin
sk_SK
sv_SE
ta_IN
te_IN
uk_UA
vi_VN
The following team is to be LEFT INTACT:
zh_CN (as opposed to zh_TW and zh_HK)
The merging task can be accomplished by using the Transifex-client tool available in Fedora repository. You will need the language remapping capability introduced in version 0.5.2, which is currently in the testing repo. To use now, run:
su -c "yum install transifex-client --enablerepo=*testing"
or update using the testing repo:
su -c "yum update transifex-client --enablerepo=*testing"
Please give the package transifex-client-0.5.2-1.fc15.noarch [1] good karma so it would land in the stable repo soon.
The procedure has been summarized before [3], there's also a complete manual to the tool [4]. It took me less time because I only downloaded one language I wanted. For instance, to update the Virtualization Guide I did:
1. configure the tool to use the chosen resource:
a. create a folder, say, "transifex" in the home dir and cd into it
b. [misha@pc transifex] $ tx init
c. [misha@pc transifex] $ tx set --auto-remote https://www.transifex.net/projects/p/fedora-virtualization-guide/
2. pull the "ru_RU" translation modules:
a. [misha@pc transifex] $ tx pull -l ru_RU
3. use language remapping to push the modules as "ru":
a. remap the language by adding the line "lang_map = ru:ru_RU" to the main section of ~/transifex/.tx/config [5]
b. [misha@pc transifex] $ tx push --translations -l ru
4. delete the local files
You may be able to do the whole docs collection at once using
$ tx set --auto-remote https://www.transifex.net/projects/p/fedora/r/fedora-15-docs/
as soon as the corresponding ticket [6] is closed.
[1] https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/search/transifex
[2] https://www.transifex.net/projects/p/fedora/r/fedora-15-docs/
[3] http://lists.fedoraproject.org/pipermail/docs/2011-June/013504.html
[4] http://help.transifex.net/user-guide/client/devel.html#customizing-the-la...
[5] http://lists.fedoraproject.org/pipermail/docs/2011-June/013465.html
[6] http://code.indifex.com/transifex-client/issue/17/broken-auto-remote-for-...
--
Best regards,
Misha Shnurapet, Fedora Project Contributor
Email: shnurapet AT fedoraproject.org, IRC: misha on freenode
https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/shnurapet, GPG: 00217306
12 years, 7 months
Docs FAD at OLF
by Robyn Bergeron
Hey folks,
What day is this planned for? I can't get a whole heck of a lot out of
the wiki page set up at http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/FAD_@_OLF_2011
... and I don't want to take the 8am flight out on Sunday if stuff is
planned for that day.
Also, I know that at least a small bit of budget is needed (I've
already booked zoglesby's room), and we should probably notate that on
this page, unless we're rolling it all into the same budget as the
rest of OLF (in which case, we should notate it in that budget) :D
Just trying to keep everything transparent! :)
-Robyn
12 years, 7 months
Meeting Minutes for August 22, 2011
by John J. McDonough
Minutes:
http://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-meeting/2011-08-22/fedora-meeting...
Minutes (text):
http://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-meeting/2011-08-22/fedora-meeting...
Log:
http://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-meeting/2011-08-22/fedora-meeting...
Meeting summary
---------------
* Roll Call (jjmcd, 13:00:50)
* Follow up on last week's action items (jjmcd, 13:02:27)
* LINK:
http://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-meeting/2011-08-15/fedora-meeting...
(jjmcd, 13:02:39)
* ACTION: zoglesby email rudi to find out status of FOP (jjmcd,
13:03:32)
* ACTION: zoglesby email docs-list to have guide owners verify they
are still working there guides (jjmcd, 13:04:26)
* ACTION: zoglesby and jjcmd to work on guide owners manual on wiki
(jjmcd, 13:04:38)
* F16 Schedule (jjmcd, 13:05:04)
* LINK:
http://rbergero.fedorapeople.org/schedules/f-16/f-16-docs-tree-tasks.html
(jjmcd, 13:05:16)
* Unclaimed Beats (Aug 31) (jjmcd, 13:05:29)
* Test master branches of guides against Alpha and correct (Sep 6)
(jjmcd, 13:06:20)
* LINK: http://jjmcd.fedorapeople.org/Download/Pub-DocBook.odp
(jjmcd, 13:12:04)
* FAD @ OLF (jjmcd, 13:16:10)
* LINK: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/FAD_@_OLF_2011 (jjmcd,
13:16:20)
* ACTION: Sparks to send a message to the Docs list regarding food for
FAD@OLF (Sparks, 13:22:28)
* ACTION: Sparks to ask jsmith-away about specifics of telephony for
FAD@OLF (Sparks, 13:23:01)
* FUDcon Blacksburg (jjmcd, 13:26:40)
* LINK: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/FUDCon:Blacksburg_2012 (jjmcd,
13:26:49)
* Docs QA (jjmcd, 13:32:16)
* Guide Status (jjmcd, 13:35:30)
* Outstanding BZ Tickets (jjmcd, 13:40:15)
* LINK: http://tinyurl.com/lbrq84 (jjmcd, 13:40:26)
* Open floor discussion (jjmcd, 13:42:45)
* LINK:
https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Setting_up_a_document_with_Transifex
(jjmcd, 13:46:46)
* Excellent instructions on publishing translations from nathant
(jjmcd, 13:48:50)
Meeting ended at 13:56:47 UTC.
Action Items
------------
* zoglesby email rudi to find out status of FOP
* zoglesby email docs-list to have guide owners verify they are still
working there guides
* zoglesby and jjcmd to work on guide owners manual on wiki
* Sparks to send a message to the Docs list regarding food for FAD@OLF
* Sparks to ask jsmith-away about specifics of telephony for FAD@OLF
Action Items, by person
-----------------------
* Sparks
* Sparks to send a message to the Docs list regarding food for FAD@OLF
* Sparks to ask jsmith-away about specifics of telephony for FAD@OLF
* zoglesby
* zoglesby email rudi to find out status of FOP
* zoglesby email docs-list to have guide owners verify they are still
working there guides
* zoglesby and jjcmd to work on guide owners manual on wiki
People Present (lines said)
---------------------------
* jjmcd (115)
* Sparks (32)
* pkovar (12)
* rbergeron (4)
* jhradilek (4)
* Southern_Gentlem (3)
* bcotton (3)
* suehle (2)
* zodbot (2)
* eslobodo (2)
* stickster (1)
* Sparks_too (1)
12 years, 8 months
Duplicated four-letter teams removed
by Dimitris Glezos
On Mon, Aug 22, 2011 at 6:01 AM, Misha Shnurapet
<shnurapet(a)fedoraproject.org> wrote:
> Hi.
>
> This is to remind you that we've past the deadline
> (August 15th, 2011) by which all the language resources should
> have been synced by the L10N coordinators.
I proceeded and removed the duplicate TEAMS.
REMOVED TEAMS:
bn_BD
cz_CZ
it_IT
jp_JP
lv_LV
ru_RU
ta_IN
uk_UA
RENAMED TEAMS:
lt_LT → lt
vi_VN → vi
Docs owners should proceed in removing their FILES (not teams) from
following four-letters and map them to the correct two-letter teams.
> as_IN
> bg_BG
> bs_BA
> ca_ES
> cz_CZ
> da_DK
> de_DE
> el_GR
> fa_IR
> fi_FI
> fr_FR
> gu_IN
> he_IL
> hi_IN
> hr_HR
> hu_HU
> id_ID
> is_IS
> it_IT
> jp_JP
> kn_IN
> ko_KR
> lt_LT
> lv_LV
> ml_IN
> ms_MY
> nb_NO
> nl_NL
> or_IN
> pa_IN
> pl_PL
> ru_RU
> sr_RS
> sr_RS@latin
> sk_SK
> sv_SE
> ta_IN
> te_IN
> uk_UA
> vi_VN
Once again, here's how to do that. Quoting misha from a previous email:
> The procedure has been summarized before [3], there's also a complete manual to the tool [4]. It took me less time because I only downloaded one language I wanted. For instance, to update the Virtualization Guide I did:
1. configure the tool to use the chosen resource:
a. create a folder, say, "transifex" in the home dir and cd into it
b. [misha@pc transifex] $ tx init
c. [misha@pc transifex] $ tx set --auto-remote
https://www.transifex.net/projects/p/fedora-virtualization-guide/
2. pull the "ru_RU" translation modules:
a. [misha@pc transifex] $ tx pull -l ru_RU
3. use language remapping to push the modules as "ru":
a. remap the language by adding the line "lang_map = ru:ru_RU" to
the main section of ~/transifex/.tx/config [5]
b. [misha@pc transifex] $ tx push --translations -l ru
4. delete the local files
You may be able to do the whole docs collection at once using
$ tx set --auto-remote
https://www.transifex.net/projects/p/fedora/r/fedora-15-docs/
The next time you'll need to publish your docs, just run a 'tx pull'.
-d
[1] https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/search/transifex
[2] https://www.transifex.net/projects/p/fedora/r/fedora-15-docs/
[3] http://lists.fedoraproject.org/pipermail/docs/2011-June/013504.html
[4] http://help.transifex.net/user-guide/client/devel.html#customizing-the-la...
[5] http://lists.fedoraproject.org/pipermail/docs/2011-June/013465.html
--
Dimitris Glezos
Transifex: The Multilingual Publishing Revolution
http://www.transifex.net/ -- http://www.indifex.com/
12 years, 8 months
Tx duplicate teams removal
by Misha Shnurapet
Hi.
This is to remind you that we've past the deadline (August 15th, 2011) by which all the language resources should have been synced by the L10N coordinators.
21.06.2011, 05:15, "Dimitris Glezos" <glezos(a)indifex.com>:
> A few months ago, some of the Fedora teams were duplicated to support
> Publican's language format (eg. nl and nl-NL).
>
> This support has been available in the Transifex Client for many weeks
> now, and Publican projects can simply configure their Tx client to
> easily map the Fedora Team languages to their dash format (ie. convert
> nl → nl-NL) without requiring to have a duplicated team. This
> configuration is stored in the ``.tx/config`` file, so it's going to
> be available for all users of the git repos.
>
> http://lists.fedoraproject.org/pipermail/docs/2011-May/013337.html
> http://help.transifex.net/user-guide/client/devel.html#customizing-the-language-mappings
>
> We will proceed in removing all the duplicated teams soon and only
> keep the ones the L10n team uses. For example, remove nl_NL and only
> keep nl (merge the first members into the latter and remove team).
The docs translation period starts in two weeks on September 6th. We want also to make sure there is less confusion for new contributors about the groups to request their membership in.
I'd like to ask the project maintainers to remove the duplicate teams as listed below. Please note that some the four-letter teams need to stay on Transifex. The whole .PO stack has been backed up and made accessible via fedorapeople.org [1] just in case.
The following teams should be REMOVED:
as_IN
bg_BG
bs_BA
ca_ES
cz_CZ
da_DK
de_DE
el_GR
fa_IR
fi_FI
fr_FR
gu_IN
he_IL
hi_IN
hr_HR
hu_HU
id_ID
is_IS
it_IT
jp_JP
kn_IN
ko_KR
lt_LT
lv_LV
ml_IN
ms_MY
nb_NO
nl_NL
or_IN
pa_IN
pl_PL
ru_RU
sr_RS
sr_RS@latin
sk_SK
sv_SE
ta_IN
te_IN
uk_UA
vi_VN
The following teams are TO STAY in Transifex:
bn_IN (is different from bn)
zh_CN (as opposed to zh_TW and zh_HK)
[1] http://shnurapet.fedorapeople.org/translations/
--
Best regards,
Misha Shnurapet, Fedora Project Contributor
Email: shnurapet AT fedoraproject.org, IRC: misha on freenode
https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/shnurapet, GPG: 00217306
12 years, 8 months
Security Guide?
by Noriko Mizumoto
Hi docs team
I've been asked some translator if Security Guide will be updated for F16.
Can anyone know about this?
Also it would be very nice, if any status list of all documentation for
F16. So that translators can efficiently allocate the resource for
document translation.
Thanks.
noriko
12 years, 8 months
Hack fest at FUDCon Milan
by Florian Nadge
Hi list,
We are going to be in Milan for the FUDCon, 30 Sep - 02 Oct 2011, and
are planning to have a litle hack session while we are there and were
wondering who of you guys want to join us. Let us know in advance so
that we can organize an appropriate room and enough pizza:) For details,
see
https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/FUDCon:Milan_2011#Proposed_hackfest_sessions
Cheers,
Florian
--
Florian Nadge
Technical Writer | Red Hat Engineering Content Services
Brno Office—(+420) 532 294 327 | cell—(+420) 603 764 858 |inhouse—82-62327
Red Hat Czech s.r.o. | Purkyňova 99/71
612 45 Brno | Czech Republic
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www.cz.redhat.com
Time zone: CEST
irc nick: fnadge (#docs, #errata, #devel)
12 years, 8 months
