Docs meeting minutes for 12 September 2011
by Eric Christensen
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#fedora-meeting: Docs Project Meeting - Agenda: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Docs_Project_meetings
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Meeting started by Sparks at 13:11:54 UTC. The full logs are available
at
http://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-meeting/2011-09-12/fedora_docs.20...
.
Meeting summary
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* Roll Call (Sparks, 13:12:03)
* F16 Schedule (Sparks, 13:15:57)
* LINK:
http://rbergero.fedorapeople.org/schedules/f-16/f-16-docs-tree-tasks.html
(Sparks, 13:16:08)
* FAD @ OLF (Sparks, 13:27:57)
* FUDcon Blacksburg (Sparks, 13:31:23)
* LINK: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/FUDCon:Blacksburg_2012
(Sparks, 13:31:33)
* Docs QA (Sparks, 13:38:04)
* LINK: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Package_maintainers_wishlist
(LinuxCode, 13:47:02)
* FUDCon Milan (Sparks, 13:48:48)
* Open floor discussion (Sparks, 13:53:54)
Meeting ended at 14:00:12 UTC.
Action Items
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* **UNASSIGNED**
* (none)
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* pkovar1 (28)
* fnadge (15)
* zoglesby (15)
* bcotton (7)
* LinuxCode (5)
* jhradilek (4)
* zodbot (3)
* Southern_Gentlem (3)
* suehle (1)
* eslobodo (1)
* pkovar (1)
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12 years, 7 months
Re: Removing the Fedora Release Notes from the releases.
by Robert 'Bob' Jensen
----- "Nathan Thomas" <nathan(a)afternoondust.co.uk> wrote:
> I guess we're the wrong people to ask really, as most of us are
> generally familiar with the Release Notes content well before the
> release!
>
> Which users would be most likely to use the packaged release notes? Is
> there any way we can get their feedback on this?
>
> Nathan
Take a look in the list archives, this topic has been discussed in the past and I believe that the arguments for keeping the release notes still apply.
-- Bob
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| Robert 'Bob' Jensen || Fedora Unity Founder |
| bob(a)fedoraunity.org || http://fedoraunity.org/ |
| http://bjensen.fedorapeople.org/ |
| http://blogs.fedoraunity.org/bobjensen |
| http://www.facebook.com/rpjensen |
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12 years, 7 months
Docs FAD tomorrow at OLF
by Zach Oglesby
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This is just a reminder that tomorrow we will be holding our FAD @ OLF. We will be meeting in the loby of the Drury Hotel at 9AM. If you want to come in late please contact me on IRC or identica for the actual room location. We have a VoIP server for anyone that would like to join remotely you can call in at 801-254-5677.
- --
Zach Oglesby
http://zach.oglesby.co/files/public.key
https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/User:Zoglesby
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12 years, 7 months
New GPG Key for Sparks
by Eric Christensen
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Below is my new public key. Please update your keyrings with this new key for me.
Thanks,
Eric
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12 years, 7 months
New Transifex: TM, QA controls, .desktop, Private projects
by Dimitris Glezos
Hi all!
A quick announcement that we've done a major upgrade on Transifex.net, which
brings a few exciting features for Fedora's developers and translators,
including a brand-new theme. Some of these were advocated by the Fedora
community itself, so thank you for your feedback!
http://blog.transifex.net/2011/09/freemium/
http://fedora.transifex.net/
Here are the most interesting features introduced:
- Quality control tools for developers
- New file formats incl. .desktop & XLIFF
- Translation Memory & Spell-checking
- Brand new look-n-feel!
- Translation of private & proprietary projects
## QA features for developers:
- **Pseudo files**: Developers can download special auto-generated files to
test their project's internationalization support before translations. This
will help catch strigs which were not marked for translation or spot ones
which will render badly in certain locales (too tall, wrap around).
- **Live developer comments**: Give translation instructions on specific
strings straight from the web editor.
## QA features for translators:
- **Transation memory**: Transifex now stores your project's past translations
in a Translation Memory and offers them in the web editor when a similar
string appears. This greatly helps translators save time and increases the
quality and consistency of your translations.
- **Integrated spell-checker**: The Web Editor now warns on simple and common
language mistakes when translating.
## New file formats: .desktop, XLIFF, etc
Developers can now submit .desktop files for translation in Transifex.
Translators will work with them just like with any other file, watch them for
changes, translate online & offline etc.
Read more information about the changes and background info on our dedicated
blog post and our help pages.
http://blog.transifex.net/2011/09/freemium/
http://help.transifex.net/
Hope you like these new features & use them to improve our translations. =)
-d
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Dimitris Glezos
Transifex: The Multilingual Publishing Revolution
http://www.transifex.net/ -- http://www.indifex.com/
12 years, 7 months
possible hackfest during DeveloperConference in Brno, 17-18 February 2012
by Florian Nadge
Hi,
Since several hackfests will be held during next year's
DeveloperConference in Brno, 17-18 February 2012, the organizers asked
us whether the Fedora Docs Project would like to hold a documentation
hackfest as well. Venue and catering is covered by Red Hat. We already
have 5-6 local people interested.
Would this be something the Fedora Docs Project might be interested in?
For details on the DevelopersConference 2012, see:
http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/DeveloperConference 201
For details on the hackfest, see:
https://live.gnome.org/Hackfests/DeveloperConference2012
Florian
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Florian Nadge
Technical Writer | Engineering Content Services
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12 years, 7 months
No Meeting 12 Aug 2011
by Zach Oglesby
Due to the US Holiday we will not have a meeting next week. The
following is notes that I have and reminders for the upcoming week.
* Follow up on last week's action items (zoglesby, 13:21:44)
* ACTION: zoglesby email rudi to find out status of FOP
** LINK: https://www.redhat.com/archives/publican-list/2011-August/msg00022.html
** This may be a non-issue if we this HTML-PDF solution is possible
* ACTION: zoglesby email docs-list to have guide owners verify they
are still working there guides
** Sent out today
* ACTION: zoglesby and jjcmd to work on guide owners manual on wiki
** I have a list of things that I am going to start adding to the
wiki this week
* Upcoming items
Wiki Freeze: Beta Release Notes
(Mon 2011-09-05)
Ongoing build translation review htmls
(Mon 2011-09-05 - Mon 2011-09-12)
***Create POT files for All Guides***
(Tue 2011-09-06)
Notify trans that new Guide POT files available (Tue
2011-09-06)
****Translate All Guides (POT to PO)*** (Tue
2011-09-06)
***Publish draft guides***
(Tue 2011-09-06)
Notify announce-list and f-devel-list draft guides available (Tue 2011-09-06)
Branch Guides
(Tue 2011-09-06)
Start nightly POT files all fed-rel-notes.rpm content (Wed 2011-09-07)
* OLF
OLF is this upcoming week, many of us will be in town starting
Thursday. The actual FAD is on Sunday in the Drury Hotel
--
Zach Oglesby
GPG Key: F20C4707
http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/User:zoglesby
12 years, 7 months
Two questions for Fedora translators
by Petr Kovar
Hi Fedora translators!
Could you guys please confirm that the following language mapping list
for the Fedora docs includes correct language and region codes?
lang_map = aln:aln-AL, ar:ar-SA, as:as-IN, bal:bal-PK, bg:bg-BG,
bn:bn-BD, bn_IN:bn-IN, bs_BA:bs-BA, ca:ca-ES, cs:cs-CZ, da:da-DK,
de_CH:de-CH, de:de-DE, el:el-GR, en_GB:en-GB, es:es-ES, fa:fa-IR, fi:fi-FI,
fr:fr-FR, gu:gu-IN, he:he-IL, hi:hi-IN, hr:hr-HR, hu:hu-HU, id:id-ID,
is:is-IS, it:it-IT, ja:ja-JP, kn:kn-IN, ko:ko-KR, lt:lt-LT, mai:mai-IN,
ml:ml-IN, mr:mr-IN, ms:ms-MY, nb:nb-NO, nds:nds-DE, nl:nl-NL, nn:nn-NO,
or:or-IN, pa:pa-IN, pl:pl-PL, pt_BR:pt-BR, pt:pt-PT, ro:ro-RO, ru:ru-RU,
si:si-LK, sk:sk-SK, sl:sl-SI, sq:sq-AL, sr:sr-RS, sr@latin:sr-Latn-RS,
sv:sv-SE, ta:ta-IN, te:te-IN, tr:tr-TR, uk:uk-UA, ur:ur-PK, vi:vi-VN,
zh_CN:zh-CN, zh_HK:zh-HK, zh_TW:zh-TW
To reduce maintenance burden on the Fedora guide owners, I'd like to come
up with a sort of canonical mapping list that could be shared between
multiple guides, branches and repositories.
On another note, I was wondering what is Fedora translators' opinion on
not publishing docs translations that are below a certain threshold level,
say 15% or 25%?
I realized it would be worth asking you translators while I was working on
updating POT files and syncing translations for the Deployment Guide, since
the most complete translation for this guide is currently at ca. 10%.
I know that translators can publish their translated documents themselves,
if they want to and have been added to the right permission group,
anyway. I'm however not sure how many people in the Fedora translation teams
actually do this.
I'm CC'ing the Fedora docs list on this message.
Thanks,
Petr Kovar
12 years, 7 months
Guide Owner Check
by Zach Oglesby
I should have done this weeks ago but I would like to get an idea of
what guide owners are still actively maintaining guides. If your name
is on this list please respond with an indication of whether or not
you still plan on taking responsibility for the guides your name is
tied to. Thanks
Accessibility Guide Sparks
Amateur Radio Guide jjmcd, Sparks
Burning ISOs Zoglesby
Deployment Guide dsilas, jhradile
Elections Guide Sparks
Installation Guide ke4qqq, rudi
Installation Quick Start Guide ke4qqq, rudi
Jargon Buster Sparks
Live Images nathant
Musicians' Guide crantila
OpenSSH Guide sradvan, kennepede
Power Management Guide rudi
Release Notes jjmcd, ryanlerch
Resource Management Guide mprpic
RPM Guide bcotton, pmkovar
Security Guide sparks, sradvan, kennepede
SELinux FAQ sradvan, kennepede
SELinux Managing Confined Services Guide sradvan, kennepede
SELinux User Guide sradvan, kennepede
Software Management Guide Gomix
Storage Administration Guide Ddomingo
Technical Notes jjmcd
User Guide danielsmw, kirk202, laubersm
Virtualization Guide sradvan
Wireless Guide sradvan
--
Zach Oglesby
GPG Key: F20C4707
http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/User:zoglesby
12 years, 7 months
Re: Two questions for Fedora translators
by Sveinn í Felli
Icelandic (is:is-IS) seems correct.
Þann sun 4.sep 2011 23:04, skrifaði Petr Kovar:
> Hi Fedora translators!
>
> Could you guys please confirm that the following language mapping list
> for the Fedora docs includes correct language and region codes?
>
> lang_map = aln:aln-AL, ar:ar-SA, as:as-IN, bal:bal-PK, bg:bg-BG,
> bn:bn-BD, bn_IN:bn-IN, bs_BA:bs-BA, ca:ca-ES, cs:cs-CZ, da:da-DK,
> de_CH:de-CH, de:de-DE, el:el-GR, en_GB:en-GB, es:es-ES, fa:fa-IR, fi:fi-FI,
> fr:fr-FR, gu:gu-IN, he:he-IL, hi:hi-IN, hr:hr-HR, hu:hu-HU, id:id-ID,
> is:is-IS, it:it-IT, ja:ja-JP, kn:kn-IN, ko:ko-KR, lt:lt-LT, mai:mai-IN,
> ml:ml-IN, mr:mr-IN, ms:ms-MY, nb:nb-NO, nds:nds-DE, nl:nl-NL, nn:nn-NO,
> or:or-IN, pa:pa-IN, pl:pl-PL, pt_BR:pt-BR, pt:pt-PT, ro:ro-RO, ru:ru-RU,
> si:si-LK, sk:sk-SK, sl:sl-SI, sq:sq-AL, sr:sr-RS, sr@latin:sr-Latn-RS,
> sv:sv-SE, ta:ta-IN, te:te-IN, tr:tr-TR, uk:uk-UA, ur:ur-PK, vi:vi-VN,
> zh_CN:zh-CN, zh_HK:zh-HK, zh_TW:zh-TW
>
> To reduce maintenance burden on the Fedora guide owners, I'd like to come
> up with a sort of canonical mapping list that could be shared between
> multiple guides, branches and repositories.
>
>
> On another note, I was wondering what is Fedora translators' opinion on
> not publishing docs translations that are below a certain threshold level,
> say 15% or 25%?
>
> I realized it would be worth asking you translators while I was working on
> updating POT files and syncing translations for the Deployment Guide, since
> the most complete translation for this guide is currently at ca. 10%.
>
> I know that translators can publish their translated documents themselves,
> if they want to and have been added to the right permission group,
> anyway. I'm however not sure how many people in the Fedora translation teams
> actually do this.
>
> I'm CC'ing the Fedora docs list on this message.
>
> Thanks,
> Petr Kovar
> --
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